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Endless Strategy writes...

Did Demona and her clan sleep at Castle Moray during the time she was allied with Macbeth?

Greg responds...

Often. Though never the entire clan at any one time.

Response recorded on January 06, 2014

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Greg Bishansky writes...

So, since Demona led her own clan for at least sixty years, 998 was a hatching year (assuming any of these gargoyles had surviving eggs), so was 1018, and 1038.

While I know she didn't take a mate and thus didn't lay any new eggs for 1018 an 1038, was she a rookery mother to either of these generations of eggs? Or is Angela the first child she ever gave a damn about.

Greg responds...

No timeline available to me on this Southwest flight. Sorry.

Response recorded on July 10, 2013

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Derek writes...

So was Demona's clan all in one place when they were destroyed by Canmore? Given that Demona had previously split them in cells to ensure their survival that makes little sense. Couldn't a handful of them survived?

Greg responds...

Did Canmore say he smashed them while they slept, or did he just say that he killed them all? I can't remember at the moment.

Response recorded on September 24, 2012

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Comet writes...

Was it ever planned to reveal more information about the "Blue Beaked Gargoyle" from Demonas Clan in CoS?

Greg responds...

Eventually.

Response recorded on February 07, 2012

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Matt writes...

Hey Greg!

Richard Jackson writes...

Hi Greg,

I noticed in your memo for City of Stone that you placed Demona's clan living in caves at Lunfanan Hill in 1020 and 1040. Is that where that cell lived? http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=134

Greg responds...

Canon-in-training.

Response recorded on August 26, 2011

I was wondering how long before 1020 that Demona's Clan, or at least the cell of it that consisted of "Second", "Kermit" and the other gargoyles who had hatched at Wyvern had been living at Lunfanan Hill. When Brooklyn seeks them out in 997, were the Lunfanan Caves the ones they lived in at that time?

Also, did Demona have a name for this cell (like calling the massacred gargoyles the Shruiglea Cell)? I think on GargWiki we are either calling it the Wyvern Cell or the Lunfanan Cell (which prompted me to ask my first question).

Just trying to get some facts straight for the Wiki. Thanks!

Greg responds...

She wouldn't call it the Wyvern Cell. Maybe the Lunfanan Cell.

I don't know that I've broken down exactly when each cell moved where, but I think Lunfanan is a good bet for Second and Kermit, etc., even early on.

Still, cannon-in-training.

Response recorded on November 15, 2011

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Richard Jackson writes...

Hi Greg,

I noticed in your memo for City of Stone that you placed Demona's clan living in caves at Lunfanan Hill in 1020 and 1040. Is that where that cell lived? http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=134

Greg responds...

Canon-in-training.

Response recorded on August 26, 2011

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Adam writes...

Hi Greg. You have provided the names, hatched dates, and original clan of the gargoyles seen in Demona's clan in CoS and CB2 except for the blue beaked gargoyle. Could you provide the same for him?

Greg responds...

No.

Response recorded on August 10, 2010

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Matt writes...

1. Why did you give the moniker of "True" to Hudson's third biological child? Where did the name come from?

2. In what series' or spin-offs would we see True again?

3. Aside from Hudson, were any of True and "Kermit"'s rookery parents still alive as of 997?

4. Where did True and Kermit go during the Battle of Rathveramoen? Were there other gargoyles/beasts of similiar age among other cells of Demona's Clan?

5. Do you consider the cell that True belonged to to be called the Wyvern Cell or would you call it something else? Was this the cell that Demona spent most her time with?

Thanks, Greg!

Greg responds...

1a. It seemed appropriate.

1b. My twisted mind.

2. Dark Ages.

3. Potentially.

4a. Into hiding.

4b. Yes.

5a. I doubt it was called that, since it wasn't located at Wyvern. But I understand how that's a useful and sensible place-holder for the time being. And, no, I haven't set a specific location for it yet.

5b. Yes.

Response recorded on March 18, 2010

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Matt writes...

Just to be clear for the sake of the GargWiki,

The six gargoyles and two beasts that Demona initially talks to in "Tyrants", they are all originally from the Wyvern Clan, right? Meaning they all hatched at Wyvern, moved away when the Wyvern Clan split and eventually all joined Demona's Clan as a single cell. Is that right?

And I believe you said this at the Gathering, but I want to clarify something else along these lines: I think you said that each cell was divided up by location and that each cell had its origins with a specific clan. Is that right?

Greg responds...

1. Yes.

2. No. The cells are small enough, that multiple cells might have their origins with the same clan. And on the other hands, some individual cells might be a mix of gargoyles and beasts from multiple clans.

Response recorded on January 14, 2010

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Ageist writes...

====SPOILERS FROM CLAN-BUILDING 2====

A lot of new faces were seen in Demona's clan in CB2 - and it sounds like some interesting facts were given out about the whole clan's relationships to Wyvern clan members during this last Gathering. So a couple questions:

1) Were all of the Gargates seen in the cell that Demona's Second/True/etc were part of from the Wyvern Split clan?

2) What year were these Gargates born in?
a - Demona's Second's Mate/Sacrifice
b - "Bro" the red Gargoyle Brooklyn spoke with.
c - Brooklyn's bioBrother, seen behind Brook and "Bro"
d - the little Green gargoyle standing next to True.
e - Bronx's parents

3) Was Sacrifice related biologically to any other Gargoyle we've seen from Wyvern? If so which?

4) The little Blue Gargoyle from City of Stone was not seen here (that I found). Where was he?

Greg responds...

1. Yes.

2.
a. 918.
b. 958.
c. 938.
d. 978
e. 898

3. Don't know.

4. Another cell, probably.

Response recorded on January 11, 2010

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Greg Bishansky writes...

Before I submit my reviews, I'm actually going to wait till Todd reads it out of respect...

The new gargoyles that appear in 10, 11, and 12. I would like to set up GargWiki entries for them. Do they have "script names" like Othello, Desdemona, and Iago did?

Greg responds...

Yes, but I think you have them by now.

Response recorded on December 04, 2009

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Adam writes...

Hi Greg. I have a question about Demona's clan. When she was gathering her clan (before and after Mcbeth became King), did any of the gargoyles seek her out to join the clan or did Demona find them all? Also, were any of the gargoyles that joined Demona's clan part of a small group or were they all solitary. Thanks.

Greg responds...

All of the above.

Response recorded on November 04, 2009

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Kaitlan writes...

My question is in the City of Stone episodes during the Flashbacks with Macbeth and Demona. Demona is shown having her own little clan but where did the other Gargoyles come from if Princess Katharine and The Magus take all the eggs to Avalon?

Greg responds...

They came from other Scottish clans, including a clan that had relatively recently spun off from the Wyvern Clan.

Response recorded on September 18, 2008

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gargoylemaster writes...

in the episode the stone city when demona thinks of her past and she had a diferent clan. where did she find them and what happen to the rest of their clan. THANKS
HUGE FAN!

Greg responds...

She scoured up survivors from around Scotland. They were massacred by Canmore's forces.

Response recorded on June 24, 2008

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Adam writes...

Hi Greg. Great work on the new series. Can't wait to see Bad Guys. Anyway, I checked the archives and couldn't find a answer to my question. Was Demona the only member of her clan to have a name when she was allied with Macbeth during his reign as King of Scotland? After all, she said that she liked her new name, so did any other members get names? Thanks.

Greg responds...

She was pretty much the only one.

Response recorded on October 23, 2007

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Adam writes...

Hi Greg. I have a question about Demona's clan that she gathered after the massacre at Wyvern. In the archives, you said that that clan had at most 20 members and most were male. You also said that you were not sure if they had a rookery. But did they have any gargoyle beasts? Thanks.

Greg responds...

I didn't see any, but maybe.

Response recorded on May 16, 2007

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Makhasu writes...

Was Demona close to any of her rookery siblings?

Was Demona close to any of her clan members at Moray?

Greg responds...

1. Yes.

2. I'm not sure she let herself get to close... but she's not a wizard at self-control either.

Response recorded on March 05, 2007

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Makhasu writes...

What was Demona's relationship with the people of Moray castle like? At Macbeth's coronation, those that were present cheered her on. How did they treat her over the next 17 years, and how did she react?

Greg responds...

Generally, pretty well. But there was probably some occasional tension.

Response recorded on March 01, 2007

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Tim Grubbs writes...

First, of all, I apoligize in advance if this question has ever been asked, but I looked through the archives and wasn't sure where I could find out if the question had already been asked. It applies to a gargoyle that only appeared briefly in a flashback and then in the background as part of the Avalon Clan.

My question applies to a certain gargoyle tht was part of Demona's group during the 'City of Stone' flashbacks. He has horns and wears a metal shoulder pad that singles him out among the other members of Demona's survivors. I see a gargoyle with a very similar appearance (horns and shoulder pad) as part of the Avalon Clan (Avalon Part III) just before the final attack on Archmage and his allies.

My question is, is this supposed to be the same gargoyle? I've got a few theories about their connection. One is that somehow this gargoyle was taken to Avalon sometime during one of Tom's visits to check on Goliath's clan, though the dates wouldn't match (it would have been 50 years after the spell was cast, not 100 years, Tom's normal check-in period). Another is that it was simply an accident and you didn't mean for thgis random gargoyle to appear in the background of the Avalon Clan. I'm sure it was just a goof, but if it was intentional, then it sounds like an interesting story, especially if the armpad gargoyle found out Angela was Demona's daughter and told her about his former leader.

Either way, I hope you answer my question and I hope I didn't type my question incorrectly (according to the guidelines) and there isn't any problem answering it.

An Ask Greg Helper responds...

Greg Weisman says:

Which answer do you want? Obviously, we reused some model sheets, but it's also possible that a gargoyle who once visited or lived in Wyvern was part of Demona's gathered clan. That gargoyle mated with a female gargoyle at Wyvern, resulting in an egg that grew up looking remarkably similar to his biological father. Uh, how's that?

Response recorded on February 01, 2007

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matt writes...

Demona's Clan

1. At its highest population (which i'm assuming was in 1057, right before Canmore killed the Clan) how large was Demona's Moray Clan? Was it what you consider a "full Clan"? Was it larger than the Wyvern Clan in 994 AD?

2. We know that the Wyvern Clan split sometime after the last rookery of eggs was laid in 988 AD and that the split-Clan was already destroyed by the time Demona encounters some of its remnants in "City of Stone", so when was this spin-off Wyvern Clan destroyed?

3. Have you figured out what happened to the spin-off Wyvern Clan after the left Wyvern? Have you thought about their story at all? We know that Demona's Second in "City of Stone" belonged to this Clan, have you thought of his story before he met up with Demona? Was this Clan destroyed by humans also?

4. When Canmore destroyed Demona's Clan in 1057 there was probably a rookery of eggs that were to hatch in 1058. Did Canmore destroy these also?

5. When Demona and the other rouge gargoyles came together to make a Clan, how was it decided that Demona should be the Leader?

Greg responds...

1. No, it was rather skimpy. Twenty gargs at the most, and most of them adult males.

2. I'm not tying myself down to a date with that yet.

3. I do have some ideas on this, but they're not fully fleshed out in my head, so I'm not going to go into them now.

4. I'm not sure Demona's nomadic clan (cobbled from remnant survivors of multiple other Scottish clans) had any eggs.

5. "Rouge Gargoyles"? As opposed to say, "Blush Gargoyles"? Yeah, yeah, I know it's just a typo. But it's a good one. Demona, as I think you can imagine, ASSERTED her leadership... physically. Also, she gathered the "clan". It didn't just come together.

Response recorded on April 19, 2005

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matt writes...

some questions about Demona's "City of Stone Clan":

1. did Demona know any of them before the Wyvern Massacre?

2. were any of them once members of the Wyvern Clan?

3. were any of them once members of the clan that seperated from the Wyvern Clan?

4. were any of them banished gargoyles?

5. did you have any plans (in Gargoyles, or Dark Ages maybe) for showing where these gargs came from? i remember watching City of Stone for the first ime and wondering if i'd forgotten something from Awakenings or a flashback cuz one second they were the last of their kind and the next we found another group of them. kinda confused me...

Greg responds...

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. Probably.
5. The group that was the "last of their kind" (which also turned out not to be true) in "Awakening" were the six survivors who woke up in Manhattan in 1994. Nobody in 994 ever said that the Wyvern clan were the last of their kind.

And as with most things, given enough episodes I would have eventually dealt with just about EVERYTHING.

Response recorded on May 13, 2003

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gargoyle fan writes...

hey greg i have been wondering about demona lately so here are my questions

1.In the episode city of stone why did't demona stay in wyvern was in it much safer then in a cave or it it would bring to much painful memories

2.I notice that in city of stone in the cave where demona and her clan lived there was a beach behide it so i am wondering since castle wyvern was next to a beach was the cave near wyvern

3.does demona approve of angla's relationship with broadway

4. in vows why did't demona use the phenoix gate to stop
the death of her clan

Greg responds...

1. The phrase "The Horror. The Horror." comes to mind.

2. I don't recall a beach behind that cave, and I always thought of that one being more interior to Scotland. But in any case, no, it wasn't Wyvern.

3. Well, as of when I left the show, Demona didn't know about Angela's relationship with Broadway. Only Angela, Broadway and Brooklyn knew. But assuming she found out, I think she'd have mixed feelings. Broadway is a Goliath loyalist, for starters.

4. A careful viewing would show she couldn't. If you're asking why she didn't try, I think one answer is that she did. Not by going back to the daylight hours of the massacre, when she couldn't have done anything anyway, but by going back to a point when her past self might -- had time travel worked that way -- have been able to change everything from that point forward.

Response recorded on January 29, 2003

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Gipdac writes...

In "City of Stone" part I and II, Demona had six gargoyles in her clan, including herself, and no female except herself. But in part III and IV there are clearly more.
1) Did her clan have any rookeries?
2) Where did they find the females?
3) Did Demona lay any eggs?

Greg responds...

You're assuming that in every scene you were always seeing ALL the gargoyles in the clan. You weren't.

3. No.

Response recorded on March 28, 2002

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Nieuws writes...

What clan did demona link up with after Goliath and the others were frozen? When she lead them to stealing food. In "City of Stone".

Greg responds...

It was a remnant of multiple decimated Scotish clans.

Response recorded on July 11, 2001

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matt writes...

i was wondering some things about Demona's second from "City of Stone" the rust-colored garg with the breastplate:

1. you've said before that the almost identical garg on Avalon is his son, so he was part of the Wyvern clan until it split, right? were all the new gargs in "City of Stone" from that clan?

2. was he from Goliath and Demona's generation or an older one? was he Demona's rookery brother?

3. you hadn't thought of a behind the screen name for him have you? if so, do tell...

4. did he ever have a romantic interest in Demona?

5. did he survive Canmore's massacre of Demona's clan?

6. would we ever see him developed more in one of the spin-offs? Dark Ages maybe?

Greg responds...

1. No.

2. Probably not.

3. He had no name.

4. Maybe briefly. But I don't think that lasted.

5. No.

6. Yes.

Response recorded on June 27, 2001