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Aris Katsaris writes...

A guess at the clans...

1.Guatemala
2.London
3.Ishimura
4.New Olympus
5.Paris
6.Transylvania
7.Xanadu, China
8.Avalon
9.Manhattan.
10.Clones
11.Greece
12.Camelot
13.Easter Island
14.South Pole

Greg responds...

9.5 points, which doesn't mean you got nine completely right and one half right.

Response recorded on February 20, 2000

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Michael Norton writes...

My guess at the 14 clans.

1) Manhattan
2) Manhattan (Clones)
3) Ishimura
4) Guatemala
5) London
6) Avalon (from Wyvern)
7) Avalon (from Guatemala)
8) Moscow
9) Rome
10) Paris
11) Athens
12) New Olympus
13) Los Angeles
14) Jerusalem

Greg responds...

7 and 3/4 points.

Thank you; come again.

Response recorded on February 17, 2000

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lisa writes...

HI GREG!

My guess's for the 14 clans

1.london
2.ishimura
3.guatemala
4.montreal, canada
5.venice, italy
6.outer space
7.illuminati clan {having something to do with the illuminati}
8.avalon
9.manhatten
10.moray, scotland
12.paris. france
13.loch ness, scotland
14.cairo, egypt

Greg responds...

seven points

try again...

Response recorded on February 17, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

Is Boudicca the only gargoyle beast of the Avalon clan? And does the fact that gargoyle beasts seem even rarer than normal gargoyles mean that their species is in an even worse danger of extinction?

Greg responds...

No, she's not. But the beast species is, generally, in even greater danger of extinction than gargoyles.

Response recorded on February 10, 2000

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Todd Jensen writes...

How did the Avalon gargoyles learn how to glide? After all, their human foster-parents were obviously in no position to teach them themselves how to do it.

Greg responds...

Trial and error.

Response recorded on February 09, 2000

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Scott Iskow writes...

Questions about future clans:

Are any of them derivative from clans that "currently" exist? For instance, do members of the new clans have roots with Clan Avalon, Manhattan, London, or whatever?

Greg responds...

Yes.

Response recorded on February 09, 2000

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MAui writes...

Hi there ;)

Just wondering...where did you guys come up With the Name Bouhdicca? (sp?) thanks alot, have a ncie day ;)

Greg responds...

Boudicca was a Celtic female warrior. I don't actually know that much about her. Brynne Chandler Reaves and/or Lydia Marano chose that name.

Response recorded on February 09, 2000

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lisa writes...

in 2158 who would be the leader of the wyvern clan?

Greg responds...

Define "wyvern clan".

Response recorded on February 09, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

Is Demona aware of the existence of any gargoyle clan other than that of Manhattan and (after The Reckoning) the ones in Avalon and the clones?

Greg responds...

Probably. (Haven't I answered this before?)

Response recorded on February 09, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

A guess at the clans:

1.London
2.Ishimura
3.Guatemala
4.New Olympus
5.Xanadu, China
6.Loch Ness
7.Paris
8.Avalon
9.Manhattan
10.Clones(California)
11.Camelot
12.Greece
13.Easter Island
14.(a wild guess) Bermuda Triangle

Greg responds...

Ten points.

Response recorded on February 09, 2000

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Catwoman writes...

Okay, I've noticed that the contest of the remaining clans is still open so here are my submissions:
1.Manhattan (the castle)
2.The Labyrinth (Mutates & Clones in Manhattan)
3.London
4.Ishimura
5.Guatamala
6.Avalon
7.Norway
8.Cairo (Eygpt)
9.Paris
10.Southeastern Canada
11.Rome
12.Journeying around the globe (Cold Stone, Steel, & Fire)
13.Scotland (Wyvern)
14.Cyberspace

Greg responds...

You scored eight.

Response recorded on February 09, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

Okay, a clans guess. (it IS a hard contest...)

1. London
2. Ishimura
3. Guatemala
4. New Olympus
5. Paris
6. Xanadu, China
7. Greece
8. Avalon
9. Manhattan
10. Clones (California)
11. Camelot
12. Loch Ness
13. Antarctica
14. Easter Island

Greg responds...

10.5

Response recorded on February 09, 2000

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Heather N. Allen writes...

I'll mention here that I've reintroduced myself to Gargoyles only this summer via fan webpages and I've managed to get Toon Disney for only a month. Therefore, while not completly updated on every detail of each episode, I do remember quite a bit from the original airdates of them. And if this question has been asked before, forgive me, but I've only frequented Ask Greg for three months. If it's in the archives somewhere, just point the way. SOOO, without further ado...

I remember in a past question where you mentioned recycling characters. (Morgan, Margot and Brendan, Vinnie, etc.) While watching the AVALON episodes, I noticed that many of Angela's rookery sibs were identical to those gargoyles seen in Demona's renagade clan from 2nd century, right down to the clothing. As I understood it, she collected THEM from other clans that were destroyed throughout Scotland. No way for their eggs to end up in Wyvern's rookery, or even on Avalon for that matter.

So, here's the question: were these gargs mearly another batch of recycled characters? And if so, why use them on Avalon? Did you see any kind of conflict coming from this? Or is there another reason altogether that I'm missing entirley?

By the way, I REALLY envy you for having created such a great story, with all these fictional and factual elements mixed in to create the best animated series ever. Wish I'd thought of it :)

Greg responds...

If you're looking for the "Behind the Scenes" answer it's pretty obvious. We couldn't afford to design multiple clans of background gargoyles everytime we did a flashback story or went to Avalon. So we reused the models, figuring most people wouldn't notice.

But there's also a within the Universe explanation that works for me. When a Gargoyle clan gets too large for it's location, it splits and colonizes. The Wyvern Clan had been living in relative peace under Prince Malcolm. In my mind it got up to about 100 or so Gargoyles and Beasts. That was too large a number for Wyvern to sustain, so approximately half of the gargoyle population moved on to found a new colony, start a new clan. But all the eggs were left behind in the established Wyvern rookery. The new colony obviously didn't fair any better than Wyvern ultimately, but Demona collected up a few of its survivors, during the Maol Chalvim/Duncan era.

But some of those survivors left eggs behind at the Wyvern rookery, which explains why there are some look-alikes on Avalon.

As for the clothes.... Give me a break.

Response recorded on February 03, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

This is more of a comment/correction rather than a question. I think that you've miscalculated a date. In a previous Ask Greg question you had said that you had once calculated that the gargs both in Avalon and in the real world will lay eggs at 2008. I think that must have been a mistake on your part: I believe that gargoyles lay egg in their 50th or 49th year (biological 25). That would mean that in Avalon-time 50*24=1200 years. The gargs at avalon should lay their eggs only 1200 real-world years after they were hatched. That in turn means that if they were hatched around somewhere around year 1040, they shouldn't lay eggs until 2240 or something like that...

Anyway thought I should mention this...

Greg responds...

No, that's not right.

God knows it's been years since I did this math, however I think you are operating on faulty assumptions.

Yes, the Avalon eggs hatched in 1044.

Thus by 1995, Angela, Gabriel, Ophelia, et al. would all be biologically twenty years old. That's way past Gargoyle puberty in my book. So what remains is for their internal clocks to be in sync, so to speak, with the natural rhythms of the Earth that would put the females "in heat" (for lack of a better term). That would next occur sometime in late 2007 or early 2008.

That easily puts, say, Ophelia in synch with Angela and Obsidiana out in the real world. The difference comes twenty years later in 2028, when the latter two might again lay eggs. But to Ophelia she would have only just laid her first egg a mere 20 months ago. I don't know whether that's enough recovery time for her, enough time for her own internal cycle -- but in any case her first egg certainly wouldn't have hatched yet.

It's also worth considering whether Ophelia and Angela might have been "in heat" in Avalon in 1988? Maybe they were, and maybe Katharine was preaching abstinence in a major way.

Suddenly, I feel like this is Christine's show. :) [No, I haven't read her fan-fiction, but boy have I heard rumors.]

In any case, for those of you with dirty minds, I think Angela was a virgin even at the time of "The Journey". (Broadway too for that matter.) Not so sure about Ophelia.

Response recorded on February 02, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

Here's another try at the clans contest...

1.Avalon
2.London
3.Ishimura
4.Guatemala
5.New Olympus
6.Xanadu, China
7.South Pole
8.India
9.Manhattan
10.Clones
11.Loch Ness
12.Tintagel
13.Easter Island
14.SpaceStation

Greg responds...

Ten points if I'm generous.

Response recorded on January 25, 2000

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Scott Iskow writes...

First, let me say that it is a truly amazing accomplishment to create a show that spawns so many questions. I think the only other franchise with such a rich mythology is "Star Wars." What intrigues me the most about both, are the characters and events that we never get to see.

What I'm most curious about (at least, right now) are the Avalon gargoyles.

1) How many other Avalon gargoyles (besides Gabriel, Ophelia, Boudicca), do you know the names of?

2) What are some (if any) of those names?

Greg responds...

There's Raphael, Uriel, Michael and Azrael.

(I'm quite sure that Katharine would have gone through all the Archangel names she could think of -- including the name Archangel itself.)

Response recorded on January 24, 2000

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Todd Jensen writes...

What inspired you to give the names "Ophelia" and "Boudicca" to the female triceratops-crested gargoyle and gargoyle beast on Avalon? I can easily guess as to why the choice of the names "Angela" and "Gabriel" for the other two named Avalon gargoyles, but why did you choose the names of Hamlet's girl-friend and the ancient British Iceni queen for these two? (I might add that I did like the names, which were part of that very literate tone to "Gargoyles" that I enjoyed).

Greg responds...

I didn't choose Boudicca (though I approved of the choice). Her name was picked by either Lydia Marano or Brynne Reaves or both.

As for Ophelia, I'm not sure who picked that. It might have been me, further pandering to Shakespeare. Or it might have been one of my editors or writers, further pandering to me.

Of course, now that these names are chosen, it suggests story ideas, that I'd like to some day capitalize on. Even if the real reason the names were chosen is more prosaic.

Response recorded on January 24, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

Did Goliath, Angela and Elisa understand that there are gargoyles in New Olympus?

Greg responds...

I don't think so.

Response recorded on January 10, 2000

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Derek writes...

In the RECKONING, Demona said that she knew every living Gargoyle. When she said this, was she assuming Goliath's clan was all that was left, or did she know of the London, Ishimura and other clans?

Greg responds...

I don't think she knew about Guatemala.

And she definitely didn't know about Avalon.

I'm on the fence about Ishimura.

But I find it hard to believe that she didn't know about London.

But to be honest, I haven't decided.

Response recorded on January 06, 2000

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Todd Jensen writes...

In Japanese mythology, there's a race of winged beings called tengu who sometimes taught humans bushido. Was this a partial inspiration for the Ishimura clan in "Bushido"?

Greg responds...

Yes.

Response recorded on December 30, 1999

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Airwalker writes...

How much input did you have in the designs of Gargoyles outside of the main Manhattan clan like Gabriel, Ophelia, etc? Did you just suggest a general design that got fleshed out by the rest of the production team or did you have a detailed picture in you head that you wrote out and submitted to them?

Greg responds...

I wouldn't say I had a detailed written description. But I had some ideas, many conversations and co-final approval (with Frank).

I was more specific about Leo, Griff, Una, Gabriel, Angela and Zafiro then about some of the others.

Response recorded on December 30, 1999

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Siren writes...

I keep thinking of more things...
On Garg evolution...I think the most likely would evolve from dinosaurs.Birds also evolved too, from what I believe. They just took 2 different ends of the spectrum. Birds becoming smaller and more lightweight, gaining feathers and loosing scales. Gargs get are smaller dinosaurs, just not as small as birds. They are built with more muscle and kept
the pteridacyl wings ('scuse my spelling). Brooklyn is obviously evolved from one of them thingies I can't spell. Plus you have the South American Clan, they deffinetly look reptilian. And Ophelia, she looks much like a triceratops and any other horned/crested dino (which I absolutly love on her!!!!)
But also into consideration, the Britian Clan...Where did they come from? Are they too evolved
from dinosaurs???? Doubtful. They are set so far apart from the others, more mammilian. Are they
more evolved mammals? Is Griff just an evolved eagle that looks like a griffon or an evolved griffon? Is Leo an evolved Lion?
And is that Una's real horn or jewlry? Is she an evolved horse or unicorn?
Which brings something else to mind about gargoyles...How do their babies eat? Are gargoyles
mammals? I would deffinetly say, warm blooded. And they do seem very mammilian. So does that
mean, that if Demona had the chance to raise Angela, she'd be fed on breastmilk? If so, how did
Cathryn, Magus, Tom, and his mother feed 36 hatchlings?

Greg responds...

Uh. It would have helped if you had numbered your questions....

In my head, Gargoyles are a separate classification which (in the past) I've nicknamed "Gargates". Both Gargoyles and Gargoyle Beasts evolved from this grouping, just as Primates include both humans and various apes. The Gargate-ancestor species go back to the time of the dinosaurs, so to answer your first set of questions, I'd have to ask you how you are defining the word "Dinosaur"? Colloquially, i.e. to include all species that existed during what we popularly think of as the age of dinosaurs, or are you using the term in a scientific sense, which would leave out a number of species that we generally think of as dinosaurs?

As for the various clans, appearances are superficial and can be deceiving. Leo has much more in common biologically with Goliath than he does with a Lion. Zafiro has much more in common with Griff, Leo, Una and Goliath, etc. then he does with a snake. All are Gargates. None are Mammals or Reptiles or Marsupials or Birds, though they may share a few characteristics with one or more of those groups. They are, I believe, warm-blooded, for example.

Una's horn is her horn. It's not jewelry. Though it was decorated.

Garg babies generally would drink milk from clan-mother breasts.

And yes, that did present Tom, Katharine and the Magus with a problem. Fortunately, they were on Avalon. And Avalon provided. Some trial and error was probably involved, but a replacement for breast milk was found...

Response recorded on December 30, 1999

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Bud-Clare writes...

All right, here are my guesses for the clans:
(Some of them are pretty bizarre, but I'm tired of thinking about it. ;)

1. London
2. Ishimura
3. Guatemala
4. New Olympus
5. Greece
6. Loch Ness, Scotland
7. Ireland
8. Avalon
9. Manhattan
10. Clones (Labyrinth)
11. Camelot
12. Wyvern, Scotland
13. Paris
14. Mars

Greg responds...

No. Sorry. But since this contest is obviously so hard, here's a clue.

You scored "10.5".

Response recorded on October 11, 1999

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Airwalker writes...

Goliath basically commited suicide at the end of AWAKENINGS 2 and also abandoned his children. Why hasn't anyone ever brought this up to his face? It's not the same as Demona's betraying the castle but it is just as bad. He abandoned his unborn children and while he did ask Katharine and the Magus to care for them, they didn't exactly have a great record dealing with Gargoyles up to that point. For all he knew they could have done anything after he was frozen.

What are the feelings of the Eggs on this? I understand that Guardian, Magus, and Katharine cared for them, loved them and raised them as their own children but some of them must have some sort of feeling about being abandoned by Goliath. (I know that this sounds like I'm asking for 36 (technically 35, we can't really count Boudicca) individual responses but I'm really interested specifically in Angela, Gabriel, and Ophelia's opinions and only what the general concensus is among the others.)

Greg responds...

This is a great, but VERY complex question.

Even answering just for Angela would require a term paper.

But one thing you need to understand right off the bat is that the "Eggs" were taught their GOLIATH history by Katharine, Tom and the Magus. I doubt Goliath came off as a "bad dad who committed suicide" in their telling of the tale. (Though, that's exactly what happened of course.)

In fact, we have evidence that the clan thought of Goliath as a mystical savior. A Sleeping King who would one day awaken and return when his clan needed him. And isn't that exactly what happened. Tom himself, only a boy when all the bad stuff went down, seemed to feel that finding Goliath would solve all his Archmage problems. (Lucky for him, Elisa and Bronx went along for the ride.)

When you consider the guilt that the Magus (and I assume Katharine) were not shy about revealing, you can see how the story could easily be colored in G's favor.

Now, I'm not saying that every individual garg bought the party line. But, gee, when Goliath did finally show up, things turned out pretty well. With the Archmage, with Oberon. Even the skeptical might have been convinced.

Which really only leaves us with Angela. I feel that after their Nigerian adventure, Goliath would have begun to open up more honestly with her. To reveal truths that he himself might not be conscious of. (After all, she's very intuitive.) She may now know the truth. But to her -- well, my God, there were so many extenuating circumstances. And her life has been so darn great, how's she supposed to complain or feel bitter? It doesn't seem her style.

Anyway, that's what I figure...

Response recorded on September 21, 1999

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Sean Regan writes...

My sister and I have taped most of the episodes from the original series and we watch them daily. We came to the episode named "The Green" where Goliath and company reach the Guatemala clan. Now in that episode, the Guatemala clan never turn to stone. So I was wondering how they could still be living if the Gargoyles get their energy from the sun's ray's in the day? Thanks for your time.

Greg responds...

Clearly, the magic of the pendants compensates in some way.

Response recorded on August 31, 1999

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Vashkoda writes...

Hi Greg. I'll give the clan contest a go (I'm assuming that naming the country is close enough?): Manhattan, London, Ishimura, Guatamala, New Olympus, Labrynth, Avalon,
China, Egypt, Norway, Italy, Scotland, India, moon base

Greg responds...

Naming the country isn't always close enough. Be as specific as possible, the next time you try to win. (Cause you didn't win this time.)

For example, saying U.S.A. would not be close enough for me to give you credit for the Manhattan clan.

On the other hand saying "Guatemala" is close enough for you to receive credit for the Mayan clan.

Each guess needs to be as specific as the show would dictate. AND YES, I KNOW THAT MAKES IT HARDER.

Good luck.

Response recorded on August 22, 1999

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Airwalker writes...

In the AskGreg Archive, you wrote: "I expect Angela, Sora, Ophelia, Boudicca, Obsidiana, and Turquesa to all lay eggs in 2008." You said that females share a common cycle and you also said that you wondered if Katana would rejoin that cycle or not. You also said that with Angela, she would. But Boudicca and Ophelia live on Avalon, so in 2008, shouldn't they be out of synch with the real world?

Greg responds...

Actually, no. It's literally been years, but back in 1995 I did the math. It works out that 2008 would coincide with the cycles of both Avalon and the outside world.

Response recorded on August 21, 1999

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Airwalker writes...

Yet another Guess at the 14 Clans:

Manhattan
London
Ishimura
Guatemala
Avalon
New Olympus
Clones

China
Himalayas
Australia
Africa
Scotland
Easter Island
Outer Space/Another Planet

Greg responds...

Nope. Try again.

Response recorded on August 17, 1999

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Lawrence Stone writes...

New guess on the 14 Clans

1) Manhatten
2) London
3) Guatemala
4) Ishimura
5) The Avalon Clan
6) The clones
7) New olympus
8) Scotland
9) Rome
10) India
11) Noreway
12) China
13) Salem Mass.

Greg responds...

Sorry, L.S., try again.

Response recorded on August 17, 1999

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Lawrence Stone writes...

My guess on the 14 clans

1) Manhatatten
2) the clones
3) Ishimura
4) Guatemala
5) the Avalon clan
6) New Olympus
7) London
8)Rome
9) India
10) Irland
11)China
12) Germany
13) Egypt
14) somewhere else in America

Greg responds...

Sorry, Lawrence, try again.

Response recorded on August 17, 1999

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Aris Katsaris writes...

My clan guesses:
1.London 2.Ishimura. 3.Guatemala. 4.Avalon 5. New Olympus 6. China 7. Alaska 8. Egypt
9. Manhattan(our guys) 10. Clones
11. Scotland 12. New Camelot
13. Easter Island 14. A space station

Greg responds...

Sorry, Aris, try again.

Response recorded on August 17, 1999

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Stephen R. Sobotka, Jr. writes...

Greetings Greg! (Thanks for signing my Guest book on my site!)

Hmm... First a question, then the contests:

If the purpose of the Hill of the Sleeping King was to maintain Arthur Pendragon's health and age until the time of Britain's greatest need (esentially a "stasis chamber" of some sort), wouldn't the hill also be working on the Magus, since he fell on the cairn there after defeating the Weird Sisters?

Now, the contests:

Arthurian Survivors:

1. King Arthur
2. The Lady of The Lake
3. Merlin
4. Morgana le Fay
5. Lancelot
6. Galahad
7. Gwenyvere
8. Nimue

The 14 Clans

1. Scotland
2. England
3. Ishimura/Japan
4. Guatemala Rain Forest
5. Isle of Avalon
6. Manhattan/New York
7. New Olympus Island

8. India
9. Egypt/Africa
10. Amazon Rain Forest
11. Ireland
12. Ozark Mountain Range
13. Orbital Colony/Earth
14. Australia

Hope I get at least some of them right. :) Thanks for talking to us Greg! See you in the CR!

Maintain and Check Six!

Greg responds...

Hey Stephen.

As to the Arthurian survivors -- Sorry, try again.

As to the clans, you need to submit them on a SEPARATE POST to even get a response. (I gave that admonition on the first day -- so NO SLACK.)

Response recorded on August 17, 1999

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Airwalker writes...

14 Clan Guesses:

New York
London
Ishimura
Guatemala
Avalon
New Olympus

Scotland
Himalayas
Australia
Africa

South America/Amazon
Scandinavia

Another Clone Clan
Outer Space/Another Planet

Greg responds...

Sorry, try again.

AND GENERALLY, you need to be more specific.

Response recorded on August 17, 1999

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The Clan Contest...

Contest #2 (This one's all but impossible)....

At the time of "The Journey" there were ten clans extant in the Gargoyles Universe. Some were flourishing, some barely surviving.

By the year 2158, all ten would be in much better shape and two more clans would have already have been launched.

In the century that followed, two more, for a total of FOURTEEN clans, would also be launched.

Name the location of all 14 clans.

Same rules apply as in the Arthurian contest. Name all 14 correctly if you want a response. No hints for partial or partially correct answers. Guess as often as you like, but always on a separate "question" post to ASK GREG.

There will be a prize of some kind.

Good luck...


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Tana writes...

Well, I'm not asking any questions to clarify anyfacts for a fanfic...since I don't write fanfic. Not that I'm not a good writer, just that I don't think I could do justice to the show you've created Greg. I watch it on Toon Disney and I still watch it with awe. Gotten my nephew (he's 2) into the show so much that he goes into my room to steal my toys!!

Anywho, as for my questions, I'm an artist and I'm working on some pics of the characters you created for possible inclusion in the Gathering's Art Show, so my questions pertain to stuff about those pics:

1)I'm working on a pic of the Ishimura Gargs (Kai, Yama, and a few others) performing the japanese tea ceremony, and for refrence, I wanted to know if the two females (one purple, one brown) that appeared in "Bushido" had names. If they do, what are they?

2)What situations or events would you find it interesting to see your characters in? Like some situations that happened appart from what we saw.

3)And since I ALWAYS want to know what ppl think of some of my art, if you can please look at these two pics that go together, of Brooklyn, Elisa, Lexington, Goliath, Angela and Broadway and tell me what you think!!
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/9210/swim.jpg and
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/9210/swim2.jpg
DON'T look at the other pics in that directory, they're original characters and that's something I know you're not supposed to do.

Domo Arigato! Thank you very much for your wonderful show and all the continuing effort you've put into keeping us fans happy and entertained!!! And good luck on any upcoming projects!

Greg responds...

1. The female gargoyle (Yama's mate) who had a few lines of dialogue was named Sora. The others don't have names as of yet.

2. What wouldn't be interesting?

3. I'm sorry. I can't look and hold onto your question at the same time. Why not post a link for me in S8 comment room, and I'll try to get over there.

Thanks, Tana.



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