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Carlos writes...

Hi Greg, Recently I finish the second season, I have 1 question related with "Depths" and the discussion(don´t know if there´s a better term for what happen) in The Bio-Ship:
What was expecting Superboy to happen to M'gann if he told the League/Nightwing about?
sorry if is hard to read, english is not my native tongue

Greg responds...

Hey Carlos,

Your English is way better than my skills at ANY other language, but I admit I am not quite clear on what you're asking. Superboy had no desire to tell the League or Nightwing about what he perceived as Miss Martian's excesses. He was hoping that his own disapproval would be enough to get her to see the light. Is that what you wanted to know?

Response recorded on August 08, 2022

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Steve Hockensmith writes...

Liked seeing all the items from the comics in "Alienated." By the way, how did the Light learn of Rimbor, and why did they choose the six Leaguers to rampage there?

Greg responds...

Vandal's been alive a long time and been in partnership with Darkseid for a big chunk of that. He knows his way around.

I'm not sure I understand your second question. Are you asking why he chose those specific six leaguers as opposed to a different grouping? If so, I think he felt they could do considerable damage. And he had other work for the rest. Plus they're prominence didn't hurt. Or maybe it was just random. Or maybe he watched the old Justice League cartoon.

Response recorded on August 08, 2022

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me writes...

according to
https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=25366
https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=25193
Troia and the marvels left the team in year 5 and the video game, Young Justice: Legacy, tasks place in February of team year 5 and they aren't in it does that mean they left in either January or before February 15.
also according to this
https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=17474
time become robin in the same time frame, did they level before or after he joined? or did you mean that he becomes robin in July-august and they left between July to February 15?

Greg responds...

1. Just because they weren't in the game doesn't definitively mean they had already left the Team. Robin wasn't with the others in "Denial," but he was still with the Team. He was simply otherwise occupied. I haven't set a specific date (beyond the year) for when those three left the Team.

2. Again, you're attempting to connect things up that don't need to be connected. I haven't set a specific date (beyond the year) for when Tim Drake/Robin joined the Team.

Response recorded on August 04, 2022

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Marvelman writes...

How much does the team and the League actually know about Wally's death? Did they just accept it at face value - that Wally was struck by lightning and died? Was there some sort of investigation? What did they conclude?

Greg responds...

No one thought he was struck by lightning and died. I assume you don't think that either, and that you are intentionally over-simplifying what you saw on screen. And, yes, they investigated to the extent they could. The conclusion is that Wally was killed, disintegrated.

Response recorded on August 03, 2022

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BatFan2099 writes...

Why was Beast Boy drastically redesigned in season 3?

Greg responds...

He was drastically older, i.e. he had undergone puberty, and he no longer felt the need to stay in his monkey-boy form.

Response recorded on July 27, 2022

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Ash writes...

Hi Greg, Excellent finish to the Zatanna arc. I appreciate it a lot as someone who understands the magic principles that I feel shaped the arc ("A Magician performs the real trick while their Assistants occupy the minds of the audience").

There was a few minor things that I was hoping you could provide some clarity on, not necessarily giving spoilers - more a curiousity if some seeming inconsistencies are thought out and intentional.

1) I enjoyed that the sinking of Atlantis lined up to ~9000 BC, as stated by Plato when he first described Atlantis. But, Plato also alleged Atlantis to be at war with Athens (despite us knowing historically that Athens as it was wouldn't have existed then, nor Minoan or Mycenaean Greece). I was curious if some Proto-Minoan state which would eventually become Greece may have existed in that era to survive with the stories of Atlantis?

2) On that train of thought; was curious if this potential society, may have contributed to the Atlantean Language origins?, since Modern Atlantean is based off of Ancient Greek, but Atlantis' sinking and presumably its linguistic drift would have occured long before Ancient Greece became a language.

3) So obviously the 12 000 Years aren't necessarily precise, but taking them as being such, we get the Babylon Events (or rather Vandal's Babylon's rise) as being 7586 years post Atlantis. Assuming it was 9000 BC exactly; that gives us a date of 1414 BC.

You've previously given Ishtar's birth as 1816 BC, indicating a rather long lifespan - presumably immortality. But, Ishtar was first known by history as of around 2400 BC - to be syncretised with Inanna in the Akkadian Empire.

1414 BC is also within the Kassite era of Babylon, far from the most prominent or first Babylon - With Hammurambi's Code (which seems like a good thing for the Lords of Order to lay witness to) being in around 1700s BC.

Question is basically if you had considered these dates and elements, and if you had a reason for the inconsistencies (would love if you'd lay out the reasons, but understand if that would qualify as spoiler, so would be satisfied in knowing if it had been considered or not previously)?

4) These next two are slightly different, but similar wheelhouse in dates and ages. First, Carol Ferris. You've said for her to have been born in 1986 (so 24 for S1 in TY0), while Hal became a Lantern in 2000 - where she'd have been 14. While obviously Hal and Carol aren't necessarily connected in YJ, I was curious if you had been considering these elements when assigning her age? (And ofc, knowing that since its CIT, that you could just as easily change it if it didn't line up to your intents)

5) Similarly, we have Superman and Lois, who are romantically entangled. You've said that Superman joined the Daily Planet when he was 21, so either 1998 or 1999. At this point in time, Lois would have been around 16. Is this something that you'd considered when assigning their ages? (again, knowing full well that you're able to change the ages to suit further elements as desired since they're not established in the show material).

Greg responds...

1. Probably, given the linguistic connections between Ancient Greek and Modern Atlantean.

2. See, you made my case for me.

3. I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers. But they don't match up with my timeline at all.

4. I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you saying Hal's too old for Carol? I mean, obviously, he is in 2000, but not by Team Year Zero.

5. All ages were considered relative to the relevant characters in their lives.

Response recorded on July 26, 2022

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Steve Hockensmith writes...

Where was Virgil's sister coming from when Virgil was waiting to see her? (before he was abducted)

Greg responds...

I haven't thought about it.

Response recorded on July 26, 2022

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Fallenlegend writes...

Here are some Shazam/ Marvel family questions now that the we know more about them.
1.- Did Billy Batson became weaker, as in 1/3 weaker, by sharing the power with Mary and Fredy? Or was he given 1/3 of the power from the start?
2-. When you said Captain’s marvel’s speed depended on which season we were talking about, does that mean Captain Marvel became weaker due to sharing the power?
3.- When Billy fought Despero as Captain Marvel, was him losing so easily to Despero in part caused because he had already shared the power of SHAZAM and therefor was weaker at that one? If so I assume Superman would have fared better than him, wouldn’t he? Not an hypotethical, just Here are some Shazam/ Marvel family questions now that the we know more about them.
4.-Assuming he became weaker by sharing the power of Shazam does that mean Captain Marvel is not close to Superman’s or Icon’s power levels anymore?

Greg responds...

1. The former.

2. Yes. Season One, he was at full power. In between S1 and Season Two, he shared his power, permanently. Can't get it back. So from S2 on, he's at 1/3 power.

3. Yes, that's true.

4. Correct.

Response recorded on July 20, 2022

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Anonymous writes...

Is the hero that accompanies Ice in episode 413 Isis?
What's her real name?
How old is she?
Is she THE Isis from "Intervention"?

Greg responds...

1. Yes.

2. Isis. Beyond that, no spoilers.

3. No spoilers.

4. In a sense.

Response recorded on July 08, 2022

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Captain Thunder writes...

Episode 13 wow what a way to kick of the Hiatus, Zatanna is a morally gray character instead of being completely white I like it.
1) So was the inciting incident was Zatanna thinking about Dr.Fate having four hosts instead of one?
2) So Is Granny just waiting for dejected super powered people waiting to temp them to their darker sides acting as a devil on the shoulder, I found this odd.
3) There seems to be a theme of addiction and unhealthy dependence to things, We have seen this theme somewhat hinted with Superboy in season 1.
3.1 And would I be right when talking about Red Arrow at the beginning of Season two was he having a substance abuse problem too?
3.2 Beast Boy coping with depression and sleeping pills.
3.3 Finally Mary who is actively atleast as of episode 13 relapsing, was all this intentional or am I reading too much into this.
4) Now if I recall correctly the Shazam Family was supposed to have an arc in season 2 so my question is was your plan for Mary always to have her be a presence like this in season four or did things change because of season 2. If I were to guess for the last thing and I don't know how right I am was the plan to have her be an active member of team and show her dependence on the power as she was initially part of the team in year 6 but this was later relegated to offscreen development between the 5 year timeskip.
5) Last question which has whatsoever absolutely no relation to the above questions, have you read Multiversity Thunderworld and did you like it, If not I really think you should read it and the rest of Multiversity especially Pax Americana, SOS issues. I think they should be right up your alley. Have a great day.

Greg responds...

1. Yes.

2. I didn't find it odd.

3.1. I think so.

3.2. Is there a question here?

3.3. I don't think you're reading too much in.

4. Actually, the Shazam Family was supposed to have an arc in our companion comic. Not Season Two. She was never supposed to be on the Team in S2. She was supposed to be at the wedding shower and in the group of heroes who go after the Reach devices at the end of the season. But in any case, the Comic was cancelled, so we never got back to it, and our timeline moved forward. And we couldn't spare the man-hours to design her for two cameos in S2. But the basics of Mary's predicament in S4 and forward were always part of the overall plan.

5. I have not read any of that.

Response recorded on July 07, 2022

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Matt Itelson writes...

Did Barbara admire Batman? Her costume really resembles his.

Greg responds...

I think that kind of goes without saying. If you don't admire Batman, you're not going to become Batgirl.

Response recorded on July 07, 2022

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Allen writes...

So...time travel.

It appeared that time travel on Earth-16 operated on the ability to change the past and create a new timeline. We've seen that with Bart, where the timeline changed as a result.

However, with Klarion, we see that his shenanigans throughout the timeline have always been a part of it. The bus was always seen throughout the years and didn't change anything (we know this because we saw the bus all the way in season 1).

This seems to create two types of time travel that cannot co-exist: a) you can change the past and create a whole new timeline and b) you can't change the past and any time travel you do is already part of the timeline.

So my question is, which is it? Can you change the past with time travel or not?

Greg responds...

I don't see these as mutually exclusive at all.

As I've stated before, my preferred style of writing time travel is - as with Gargoyles - to go with the type where TRUE history cannot be changed. But the DC Multiverse just wasn't built that way. So we had to allow for the possibility of new timelines being created. But that's just it. It's a possibility. Not a certainty.

Think of it this way. Anytime you step outside you might accidentally step on a butterfly. But then again, sometimes you might not.

Response recorded on July 07, 2022

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Anonymous writes...

Season 1 had a lot of elements from the young justice comics like being set in happy harbor, secret, harm, world without grown ups, and red tornado. the subsequent seasons haven’t had as much, why is that?

Greg responds...

I think we were very focused on bringing in elements from the 90s YJ comics in that season. But even then, we were doing a mash-up of different eras and different characters, while creating our Earth-16. Since then, we're just moving the characters forward. I could argue, I suppose that our adding Robin (Tim Drake) and Wonder Girl (Cassie Sandsmark) in Season Two, shows that nothing has really changed. It's always a matter of degree. But we did and do have more influences than just that run of comics. We're not adapting 90s YJ alone. We're adapting the entire DC Universe.

Or trying to, anyway.

Response recorded on June 21, 2022

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Anonymous writes...

1. How old is Charlie Dagget?
2. When was Sindella born?
3. How old is Johnny Drew?
4. How old is Penny Randall?

Greg responds...

1. Charlie Daggett was born in 1984.

2. Sindella was born in 1975.

3. Johnny Drew was born in 1997.

4. Penny Randall was born in 1998.

Response recorded on June 16, 2022

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Steve Hockensmith writes...

If Dan Garrett died in 2005, and Ted Kord became the new Blue Beetle around November 2011, why did it take so long for him to do so?

Greg responds...

Discovering that he wasn't just going to get magic powers from the scarab to make him an instant super-hero, meant that Ted had to spend years training and developing the equipment he would use as the second Blue Beetle.

Response recorded on June 15, 2022

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Matt Itelson writes...

How old was Roy (Arsenal) when his parents died?

Greg responds...

No spoilers.

Response recorded on June 15, 2022

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Verdragon writes...

So since Zatara seems to be a practicing Catholic (or as much of a practicing Catholic he can be considering his body's being possessed by an ancient Sumerian dude unlikely to be interested in going to Mass) would you have tried to sprinkle in more indications of his faith in earlier seasons were you not constrained by Cartoon Network censors? Also, as a side note, I don't mind the references to religion in "Teg Ydaer!", and I found both the scene of Khalid confronting the illusions of his parents and especially Zatara reciting the Lord's Prayer incredibly good.

Greg responds...

Thanks!

As for your question, I know we knew he was Catholic back then - and he sent Zatanna to a Catholic school - but I don't think it even occurred to us to go into much detail about it. I mean, it's hard to give much thought to something you absolutely know won't fly. So it's hard to say, hypothetically, what we would or would not have done. But I'm happy with how it all played out across the seasons.

Response recorded on June 15, 2022

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Paul writes...

I have just used the search function to check whether my first question has been asked and it looks as though a similar question was asked last week, but I want to expand upon that person's question.

1) So, another person has asked you whether Mary Bromfield is Billy Batson's sister in YJ (for, I think, the first time since "Teg Ydaer!" aired). Since there was a comic book reboot which negated their blood ties and made them foster siblings, I don't think that asking whether they're siblings gets to the heart of the matter, so I would like to be more specific, please: are Billy and Mary related by blood in Young Justice, or are they foster siblings? The Billy illusion in "Teg Ygaer!" refers to Mary as "sis" but I think that this has confused some people, as some have taken it as a sign that they are related by blood, whereas others think that it's a nod to them having been foster siblings instead. However, going back to the season 1 episodes "Alpha Male" and "Misplaced", Billy appeared to be living with Uncle Dudley and there didn't seem to be anyone else there, otherwise he would have turned to them when Dudley disappeared in the latter episode. So I think that Billy and Mary are NOT foster siblings, but rather are blood relations who were separated at birth (as in the early comics), and I wonder if you could confirm this, please.

2) Following on from the last question... if Billy and Mary are related by blood and you've confirmed this in your answer to question 1, then: are Billy and Mary twins? I ask because you've previously confirmed that they were born in the same year, and there is the matter of the fact that they were twins in the early comics. In YJ, one might still be older than the other by say 9-11 months (just because they were born in the same year, that doesn't mean they ARE twins for sure), but maybe you could weigh in on this, please.

3) And now, since the "sis" line in "Teg Ydaer!" has generated this discussion, I would like to also ask you about the "sister" comments in "Elder Wisdom", please. In that episode, Wonder Woman and Troia referred to one another as "sister". Halo also referred to Troia as Diana's sister and this wasn't refuted (though to be fair, this was in the midst of a fight, so of course Diana wouldn't immediately respond anyway). Are Diana and Troia blood relations? I know that Troia/Donna Troy has a complex comic book history, and so we could be dealing with a number of different possibilities here in terms of her origin, but I'm not asking about the bigger picture of the origin story itself. I would just like to know whether Troia is Diana's actual sister, or a sister in "spirit" (as I suppose all Amazons would be to Diana). The fact that you previously confirmed that Troia is a princess of Themiscyra would seem to confirm that Troia is Diana's blood relation. But then again, Troia could be adopted, so... I wonder if you could chime in on this, please. (It's confusing!)

4. Another Troia question: was her design in season 3 based on the look that Diana had in the 2017 Wonder Woman film, when she was living on Themiscyra? I thought that Diana's "in training" look in the live-action film looked very similar to Troia's U.N. Ambassador design.

Greg responds...

1. I'm not big on confirming things we haven't yet revealed in the series, as you may know. However, I'm pretty sure I revealed this years ago, during the long hiatus, so, to be clear: Billy Batson and Mary Bromfield are NOT foster siblings on Earth-16. That notion, from more recent Shazam comics, didn't exist back in Season One, so we didn't build for it. (That's not meant as some type of commentary on the idea. We just developed the characters based on the older concept.) They are twins, however, and - as you noted - were separated at birth, only discovering later that their genetic conection.

2. They're twins. Though of course one is older than the other. I haven't done the math, but I tend to guess that one is sixteen minutes older than the other. I just don't, as yet, know which one.

3. Since I haven't revealed this, I'm not going to now. No spoilers.

4. I don't know, honestly. Or at least, I don't remember. It's really a question for Phil Bourassa.

Response recorded on June 15, 2022

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Sean Armson writes...

Greetings,

I have been a fan of Young Justice since it originally came out. I am also a big fan of small details within a universe as well as finding out as much about a universe as possible. As a result, the time jumps between seasons and the lack of information about events which transpired between seasons can be a bit annoying (although I can understand why they were added). The question I was wanting to ask is, will you ever consider returning to those 'missing' years (not including flashbacks in future episodes)?

Regards,
Sean Armson

Greg responds...

NOT including flashbacks? So you mean doing an entire season set back then? Probably not. But I would like to tell more stories from that era, one way or another. We're doing some of that in the back-up stories inside Young Justice: Targets.

Response recorded on June 13, 2022

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Anon writes...

In response to another user you once said you had "very specific ideas for our version of the Wonder Twins , Zan & Jayna, for Season Three."

1. What ultimately led to their exclusion altogether?

2. Were there other significant changes to the S3 plans between 2013 and 2016? I'm just curious how a S3 on CN in 2013 would have looked like (aside from the obvious).

Greg responds...

1. That plot line got pushed back. This happens often. Certain things MUST happen to fit in with our timeline. Other stories could begin, well, whenever we have room for them. We still have our ideas and plans for the Twins, but they'll have to wait for now. When I said we had ideas for them to Season Three, I was speaking loosely. I should've said something more like, "for down the road..."

2. Again, there were no significant changes to our overall master plan for each season. But certain subplots that we thought might fit didn't. This happens every season. We thought we'd have room for a Red Tornado subplot in Season Two, which would introduce Traya. We didn't. We still haven't. Though we've introduced her anyway. But I still want to tell that story someday, and get back to Reddy's story. I don't recall off the top of my head which plot lines we briefly thought might fit into S3 but didn't. But I've still got a ton of ideas on a ton of index cards.

Response recorded on June 13, 2022

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Anonymous writes...

Mr. Weisman,

Starting with Season 3 of Young Justice, you decided to have the first letters of each episode spell out a hidden message; which I find very interesting because I am trying to figure out what Season 4's message is. Do you regret not coming with this idea much sooner when you first started this series?

Greg responds...

Maybe a little. But only a little.

Response recorded on June 13, 2022

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Elm writes...

Has the production budget for Young Justice changed since it was on Cartoon Network? (Asking if S1, S3 and S4 have the same costs)

Greg responds...

It's basically the same. We have more money now than we had then. But things also cost more now. So overall, it's largely unchanged. We do have a higher budget for after-effects now in S4, then we did in S3, and WAY bigger than we did for S1 & S2.

Response recorded on June 08, 2022

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Blurs writes...

Did Robin and Zatanna sleep together?

Greg responds...

A gentleman never tells.

Response recorded on June 06, 2022

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NoOneSpecial writes...

1. What was the reasoning behind having the Team picking up souvenirs from their missions back in Season 1? I get that some items like the Helmet of Fate or Atremis' arrow would come into play later, but what was the initial intent behind it or the larger theme at work? Or was it done mostly for the reasons I stated?

2. By the end of Season 2, do the Team still collect souvenirs from their missions? Seems like they don't anymore since it's never brought up again.

3. Why did League allow the Team to hold onto the Helmet of Fate? Seems like that would be very dangerous souvenir to let the Team keep, whereas most of the other stuff is fairly benign.

Greg responds...

1. It was mostly a character beat for Wally.

2. I don't think so. Not consistently.

3. It was in the Cave, which meant it was still under League control.

Response recorded on June 03, 2022

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Ahadu Getachew writes...

Hey greg this is a two part question and i’m pretty this isn’t a spoiler question but when did Jason Todd become robin (Specifically how old was he) and how long was he on the team before he died? and thank so much for being the series back

Greg responds...

Jason Todd was born in 1999. He became Robin in Team Year Three. He died in the same year.

Response recorded on June 03, 2022


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