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Corwin Haught - [Corwin dot haught at wordsbyhaught dot com]

Happy Hogmanay, everyone. Here's to a good 2018.
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

New information on Young Justice and it's release date.

https://www.cbr.com/young-justice-season-3-late-2018/

Matthew
Muscles fade and the mind dulls.But as long as the heart is willing, strength remains.

All Lucky Sevens!
Brainiac - [OSUBrainiac at gmail dot com]
There is balance in all things. Live in symmetry with the world around you. If you must blow things up and steal from those around you, THAT'S WHAT RPGS ARE FOR!

I believe there's some suggestion among scholars that Shakespeare (loosely) based his Prospero on Dr. John Dee; mathematician, astronomer, astrologer, occult philosopher, and advisor to Queen Elizabeth I.

If so, it may be that "Prospero" is more of an alias in the GU proper.

Algernon
I guard your death

Greg hasn't said anything about that subject, and his most likely response would be "No spoilers". But that is a good question, and one that I hadn't thought of before now.

When Greg approached "Macbeth", he based the events in Macbeth's life on the historical Macbeth; the only element coming from the play was the Weird Sisters (whom Shakespeare didn't invent; they're in Holinshed's Chronicles, Shakespeare's chief source).

Oberon, Titania, and Puck come from "A Midsummer Night's Dream", but nothing's been said yet about the actual events of the play (Greg himself has admitted its anachronisms - such as Bottom and his friends feeling more like rural Englishmen of Shakespeare's day than like Athenians of the time of Theseus). Greg's hinted that Oberon and Titania weren't married (and Oberon didn't replace Mab as ruler of the Third Race) until the fifth century, long after Theseus's lifetime (usually dated to a little before 1200 B.C.), so if the events of "A Midsummer Night's Dream" were based on fact in the Gargoyles Universe, they must have differed noticeably from the original.

(The adaptations of "Othello" and the Falstaff plays are a different matter; here, the characters aren't the originals but analogues. I doubt that Greg would have gone in that direction with Prospero and the other characters from "The Tempest", though.)

Not only is Prospero entirely fictional, but "The Tempest" is one of Shakespeare's extremely few plays to be (as far as we can tell) his own invention, not based on history, legend, or other stories written before him. (It's thought to have been influenced by an English expedition to the New World getting shipwrecked in the opening years of the 17th century, but that's all we know.) If in the Gargoyles Universe the play was based on actual events, the details might have differed a lot; Prospero's ducal title might have been an invention, for example. But for now, we can only guess. Until Greg gets to tell more "Gargoyles" stories, we'll never know.

Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

This is going to seem fairly inopportune what with the developments we're seeing in Young Justice... but I have a Gargoyles question. Specifically about Prospero.

Here goes. Has Greg given us any indication about what time period he sees "The Tempest" taking place in the Gargoyles timeline? OOn the one hand, unlike Macbeth of Scotland, there never was a historical Duke of Milan named Prospero (to my knowledge). And on the other hand, I guess he wouldn't have to be a "Duke" of Milan any more than the classical Theseus was a "Duke" of Athens. So is Greg's Prospero based on a figure already known from history by another name? Is he some Milanese Duke who somehow went unrecorded by history? Perhaps the events of his life occurred well before the bounds of recorded history? Do we have any clue as to Greg's intention?

A CIA Plant - [travishimebaugh at gmail dot com]

Happy, Twenty FIFTH of December, y'all!
Algernon
I guard your death

Fourth. Merry Christmas!
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

Three(3rd)!!!
Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]
Deplorable and loving it!

Second and a Happy Solstice to all!
Matthew
Muscles fade and the mind dulls.But as long as the heart is willing, strength remains.

First, and Merry Christmas to all!
Jurgan - [jurgan6 at yahoo dot com]