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posted @ Sun, Jan 28, 2024 11:16:13 pm EST from 123.243.222.34

Had to go look up the video version. Both have their charm, but are very, very different.
Matt
"And, thus, given no choice, we waited..." - Alesand, "The Reach"
posted @ Fri, Jan 26, 2024 8:30:24 pm EST from 47.233.90.133

BISHANSKY - Thanks for telling me that. (And I'm all the more glad now that I watched the audio version, or I'd have missed [SPOILER] Smaug's cameo entirely [/SPOILER].)
Todd Jensen
posted @ Fri, Jan 26, 2024 7:49:41 pm EST from 174.72.60.154

LOL! The audio and video versions have... slightly different stingers. ;)
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Fri, Jan 26, 2024 7:43:23 pm EST from 67.189.167.107

I got a kick out of the closing bit from the latest "Voices From the Eyrie" as well. It's probably up there with the "Batman: the Musical" "clip" that accompanied Goliath's unwitting Batman quote in "Here in Manhattan" #1. [SPOILER] And definitely brought memories back; it's been a long time since I saw the Rankin-Bass adaptation of "The Hobbit". [/SPOILER]
Todd Jensen
posted @ Fri, Jan 26, 2024 7:04:51 pm EST from 174.72.60.154

MATT> Don't I know it.

Remember when I emailed you and it was like "I know you haven't been around for a while, but DUDE... DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE NEW COMICS?!!?!!"

I spent so much time trying to get some old guard back... you, Blaise. Etc. And I love the conversations and discussion we're having! New reveals! New questions!
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Fri, Jan 26, 2024 6:07:32 pm EST from 67.189.167.107

Sorry, that was me.
Jurgan - [jurgan6 at yahoo dot com]
posted @ Fri, Jan 26, 2024 3:28:02 pm EST from 73.98.83.6

[SPOILER] "I saw Demona as the scorpion in the story - so intent on attacking others that she'll do it even to her own detriment. (Not in the Dark Ages period obviously, but later on.)"

Fair. But she doesn't have the self-awareness to realize that and would instead project her flaws onto others.
[/SPOILER]
Anonymous
posted @ Fri, Jan 26, 2024 3:27:25 pm EST from 73.98.83.6

Yes, I've had my suspicions on Bishansky's true feelings for a while. Nice to see that go from canon in training to confirmed!

Love Greg's state of the franchise talk. If someone in January 2021 told me that we would be where we are in three years, I would've scoffed. Great times and more to come!

Was also wondering about what the final clip quote on the Voices would be. I got a laugh out of it for sure!

Well done to the Voices staff and Guests. As always, it was fun to hear.
Matt
"And, thus, given no choice, we waited..." - Alesand, "The Reach"
posted @ Fri, Jan 26, 2024 11:04:29 am EST from 204.184.178.1

Voices / Dark Ages #5 [SPOILER]
That Lost Race reveal is huge! And also a very amusing podcast moment. You can tell Bishansky is kind of fishing, and the usually reticent Weisman is like, "Ehhhhhhhh I don't know if I really want to reveal this, but what the hey." That definitely recontextualizes my view of the ancient world of the Gargoyles universe in an exciting way.
[/SPOILER]
Craig
posted @ Fri, Jan 26, 2024 7:19:47 am EST from 24.46.160.22

Great to have Voices back, especially with Karine and Robby. Greg B's true feelings for 'Gargoyles' finally revealed after all this time... what a shocker!

DARK AGES #5

[SPOILER] My hunch is that the belling story is a hint to #6 but my take of the scorpion and the frog is that she perceives it to be about humans... which of course is ironic because, as ever, there is no greater bastion of human frailty than Demona herself.

I'm intrigued by the rules for stone sleep for dragons. For gargoyles, they have neither control nor consciousness. It's not entirely clear if Wyvern woke in response to the intrusion but the way he talked about "racket" suggests he does. Also, sleeping under a hill doesn't seem the best way to benefit from sunlight. [/SPOILER]
Ed
posted @ Fri, Jan 26, 2024 1:55:45 am EST from 86.137.87.246

Big news - there's a new "Voices from the Eyrie" podcast, about the Kickstarter, "Gargoyles" #11, and "Dark Ages" #5. And [SPOILER] it seems that dragons are the "Lost Race" [/SPOILER].
Todd Jensen
posted @ Thu, Jan 25, 2024 8:12:51 pm EST from 174.72.60.154

Jurgan >

Dark Ages #5 [SPOILER]
I saw Demona as the scorpion in the story - so intent on attacking others that she'll do it even to her own detriment. (Not in the Dark Ages period obviously, but later on.)
[/SPOILER]
Craig
posted @ Thu, Jan 25, 2024 7:00:47 pm EST from 24.46.161.32

[SPOILER] I think it's very unlikely that Alesand will die in "Dark Ages" #6, since she was narrating "Once Upon A Time There Were Three Brothers" (the framing part, around Shari's narration) from a perspective of some time after the players' visit - particularly since she's learned how to read and write from Lex by that point, which hadn't happened yet in #5. [/SPOILER]

And happy Burns Night, everyone!
Todd Jensen
posted @ Thu, Jan 25, 2024 6:48:18 pm EST from 174.72.60.154

Dark Ages 5: [SPOILER] Demona learning to read with the story of the Scorpion and the Frog is ominous, it basically sums up her view of humans. "Don't trust them, it's in their nature to attack you." Not sure if the other story has similar significance. [/SPOILER]
Jurgan - [jurgan6 at yahoo dot com]
posted @ Thu, Jan 25, 2024 6:47:12 pm EST from 64.106.38.254

Dark Ages 5> [SPOILER] I don't think Greg will kill off Alesand or Antiope yet, though I do think both might meet an end before the Massacre in 994. I do wonder if Wyvern the dragon will take a life in Dark Ages 6 though. We know a lot of characters survive far longer than 971, and I don't think we'll lose anyone major. I wonder if we might lose this guy: https://gargwiki.net/Bearded_Horned_Gargoyle [/SPOILER]
Matt
"And, thus, given no choice, we waited..." - Alesand, "The Reach"
posted @ Thu, Jan 25, 2024 12:51:53 pm EST from 204.184.178.1

I enjoyed the new Dark Ages - [SPOILER] I'm very curious about the dragon, and dragons' connection to gargoyles in general. I am a bit worried that this escapade is going to explain why there's no Antiope, but that might be a little too dark for Dark Ages. [/SPOILER]

Also, has anyone else been watching Delicious in Dungeon? I've read the manga, and enjoyed it a lot - it even has gargoyles, albeit as moving statues and not sentient beings.
Karrin Blue
posted @ Thu, Jan 25, 2024 12:42:01 pm EST from 107.77.225.111

Just FYI (since Ed mentioned it last week), the Bad Guys collection will be in the original B&W. There’s a comments section on the KickStarter where a very helpful Dynamite rep has been answering questions, and he clarified this.
Craig
posted @ Thu, Jan 25, 2024 11:05:53 am EST from 166.198.251.36

I've noticed bots occasionally using avatars here - but having an avatar certainly helps make you look less like one.
Todd Jensen
posted @ Wed, Jan 24, 2024 7:24:28 pm EST from 174.72.60.154

I'm just...gonna go over here and be irritated at my local comic shop, which has still failed to deliver, so I still haven't been able to get either of the latest issues. They swear they're getting things under control.

In re: botting (since I can't make any more germane comments), I have been told that spamming your link across multiple sites helps to boost its position in search results (though I've also been told the search engines are wise to that by now). I'm not entirely sure it is a bot, actually: the comment form here is unusual enough that it doesn't seem like it would make sense to spend time programming a bot to navigate it, not when you have lots of lookalike phpBB forums around. Bot or not, it is an irritant, though at least it's not taken over the room.

I'm also feeling like I need to figure out my avatar here so I look less like a bot myself. I'm not, I promise.
morrand - [morrand276 at gmail dot com]
posted @ Wed, Jan 24, 2024 7:19:49 pm EST from 99.74.15.252

In anticipation of more discussion, here are my initial thoughts on Dark Ages 5 that I posted three weeks ago:

[SPOILER] - I didn't know what to make of the opening quote. But after reading the story and finding out who said it and what they were talking about, it was pretty darn exciting.

-Malcolm and Mentor seem to be getting along great and having a good time leading their peoples in the endeaver to build Castle Wyvern. I wonder about the span of time here. Is construction happening over days? Weeks? Months? Obviously, the Castle was complete by 974, but I don't think it is taking anywhere near that long. We see some familiar faces working together. Second, Othello, Hyppolyta, and Goliath. I love the Captain here. He continues to fit in more with the gargoyles than with his own people. He's excited about the alliance and humans and gargoyles working together. And Goliath remarks that this is his dream as well which echos nicely into where we stands in the flagship comic. Love it.

- Meanwhile, Lefty tends to the Trio as best he can. Lexington gets a lot of character building in this one. We learn later that he already knows how to read and understands the function and efficiency of the human construction tools. I love that he is so ready for the clan to adopt human ways and technology. It plays nicely into his future and he really is coming across as a bit of a genius here considering his age and the world he's growing up in. Meanwhile, his brothers are just being kids much to Brother Valdez's consternation! I love that Lefty naturally protects Valdez from debris.

- The Trio joins up with Antiope and Alesand and take her flying. Fulfilling the latter's dream as best they could. Something about this reminds me of Elisa and Goliath touring the city for the first time in Awakening Part 3. Instead of NYC though, Alesand is treated to all the sights of Wyvern. And they come to the Archmage's Cave (though at this point it may need a new name!). In they go without a care. And they stand and look at the same archway that the World Tour travelers will look at 1025 years later. We see them in some familiar areas from not only "Shadows of the Past", but "Long Way to Morning" as well. Really cool.

- The five youngsters arrive at the Megalith Dance. The future relevance of this place to Alesand's father is very poignant to me. This is how a prequel should be. Stuff like this that is so subtle as to be almost irrelevant. At least that's how I feel it. The bigger point of interest here though is Antiope. She seems to sense this place in a way the others don't she holds back and stares in silence until she gasps in realization: it's a ghost cage! How she knows this is baffling, but Antiope suddenly got a lot more interesting to be sure.

- The "rooklings" (love that term) move on and discover a golden hoard topped with a massive stone dragon. We've seen a stone dragon before, but I think we all know that this thing is different. Again, Antiope senses that Alesand needs to hide immediately. Meanwhile, the gargoyles are in awe, but don't seem to be afraid. I find that fascinating. I don't know if there is enough cultural relevance ("By The Dragon!") to understand that they have little to fear or perhaps they feel a natural kinship or perhaps they are just braver than I would be in this situation, but they stand and watch the dragon awake from stone! This dragon is absolutely remarkable on many fronts. First, it is made fairly clear that this dragon is a new species of gargate, or should I say "Stone-flesh". Apparently one that sleeps as stone, but not tied to the rise and fall of the sun. And it's eyes glow, but not fully as a beast does or intermittently as a gargoyle does. I love that the dragon calls the gargoyles "my clan" and "little cousins". The dragon brought the ancestors of the gargoyles to Wyvern Hill as protectors of itself and its treasure. From where is unclear, but I have a big guess. I've talked before about how I've long suspected that Scottish gargoyles are descended from Atlantean ones and that their closest relatives might be the Mayan Clan (as opposed to the far closer London Clan). So, maybe this is a small piece of evidence to support that theory. As for the dragon itself, I have long been curious as to what a flesh and bone dragon in the Gargoyles Universe would be. My musings were that they could be natural animals of spectacular nature (like the Loch Ness Monsters), they could be associated or akin to the Third Race or New Olympians, or they could have something to do with the mysterious Lost Race. So, being gargates was quite a surprise but I LOVE it. It really works and adds so much to the history of the Wyvern and the Wyvern Clan. Awesome, amazing stuff. Also, if the chance ever comes to do Alliance as a Radio Play, I really want to play this dragon. I'm not sure where the voice for it came from, but I love the voice I hear when I read its dialogue. With some ill-advised reveals from the Trio, the dragon charges off towards Wyvern Hill. This reminds me a lot of Smaug descending upon Laketown in The Hobbit. Scary stuff. I also like that we can see Wyvern Hill from the Archmage's Cave, with enough height at least. I like that its clear they are relatively close to each other.

- Meanwhile, back at the Castle-to-be, the humans and gargoyles are going about their business. Malcolm, Mentor and Valdez watch as Chomp and Chaw drag more materials. Nicholas chats about wanting to become an actor. Desdemona continues her training under Sacrifice. And Demona is getting fairly good at reading under the Archmage's tutelage. Particularly notable in these last three frames is who is watching on. Mary is observing Nicholas. Perhaps developing a crush on he who would be Tom's father? Magus is watching Demona and Archmage. Already expressing an interest in magic himself? Does this mean he was aware that Demona learned magic? And then the oddest spy of all: Schnozz watching Desdemona and Sacrifice. I have no idea of the significance there, but since I'm a fan of this undeveloped little gargoyle I'm very curious. All parties suddenly become aware that something is coming: Valdez excuses himself. The Light Bringers draw swords, Desdemona senses something very old, and Archmage just sees an opportunity. He (presumably) sends Demona into the now unoccupied cave. On what purpose we can only guess...

- The text story isn't too remarkable for those of us who've been around a while. And not much revealed otherwise, so I don't have much to add about it. Well told though!

- And thats where Greg leaves us. Quite the cliffhanger. So much new stuff, but so many new mysteries. This was a great chapter. I'll give it some time before I call it my favorite chapter of the Dynamite era, but it has to be up there. I can't wait to see how this turns out! [/SPOILER]
Matt
"And, thus, given no choice, we waited..." - Alesand, "The Reach"
posted @ Wed, Jan 24, 2024 1:49:52 pm EST from 204.184.178.1

Happy official Dark Ages #5 release day! Hopefully there will be some more discussion this week from those who were waiting for the physical copies.

According to the Gargoyles News Twitter feed, it looks like the Here in Manhattan trade is not releasing today and currently has a TBD release date. At this point, I wonder if they'd consider doing a full 12-issue trade of the entire series instead, although that's probably unrealistic.

For those who missed it, the Amanda Conner commission art price on the KickStarter dropped to a somewhat more affordable $500.
Craig
posted @ Wed, Jan 24, 2024 1:29:04 pm EST from 24.46.160.218

I've said this before, but - that's the trouble with artificial intelligence. It's artificial.
Todd Jensen
posted @ Wed, Jan 24, 2024 7:32:36 am EST from 174.72.60.154

What's even to be gained from botting on a site like this? Seems like a waste of everyone's time.
Kate
posted @ Tue, Jan 23, 2024 11:08:42 pm EST from 208.102.156.56

Bad enough the bots are becoming self-aware, we don't need them to develop characteristics too.
Matthew
Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!
posted @ Tue, Jan 23, 2024 4:43:31 pm EST from 64.85.245.77

Wow, the spammers are responding to comments now (and rather snarkily).
Craig
posted @ Mon, Jan 22, 2024 6:52:58 pm EST from 166.198.251.6

No probs here.
Retaining Walls Tweed Heads
posted @ Mon, Jan 22, 2024 6:30:03 pm EST from 180.191.163.205

Anyone here having issues posting?
Algae
'Nuff said.
posted @ Mon, Jan 22, 2024 3:56:07 pm EST from 86.45.213.89

Friendly reminder that the Kickstarter campaign is still going on and can be found here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dynamiteent/30th-anniversary-disney-gargoyles-collections-are-here

Let's see if we can get to 300,000.
Matthew
Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!
posted @ Mon, Jan 22, 2024 12:28:29 am EST from 64.85.245.77