Except the original poster was most likely a bot (judging by the signature) and only feigning interest in the hopes of getting people to click on his link.
Todd Jensen
posted @ Sun, Apr 7, 2024 8:42:10 pm EDT from 174.72.60.154

The first episode. It's an arc-heavy show.
Anonymous
posted @ Sun, Apr 7, 2024 12:34:04 pm EDT from 74.74.246.146

I'm trying to get into this. Does anyone have a good starting place?
Townsville concrete contractors - [proconcreterstownsville at gmail dot com]
posted @ Sun, Apr 7, 2024 5:20:59 am EDT from 14.202.139.90

The scene in question in case you don't have Amazon Prime (or you're not an Invincible fan).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LjZVjBLRBI
Matthew
Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!
posted @ Fri, Apr 5, 2024 12:07:21 am EDT from 64.85.245.77

Fun Spectacular Spider-man Easter Egg in this week's invincible if anyone wants to check it out.
Alex
posted @ Thu, Apr 4, 2024 8:34:13 pm EDT from 70.48.44.204

Sorry for the double post, and apologies if people were aware of this already...I just came across an earlier version of the Kenya Danino cover (Cover D) for Dark Ages #3 which was apparently solicited:

https://goldenapplecomics.com/cdn/shop/products/88345-hr.jpg?v=1687653428&width=1100

Between this cover and the Drew Moss cover for this issue both being redrawn, it seems that showing Demona in chains on the cover was a definite no-go for Disney.
Craig
posted @ Thu, Apr 4, 2024 4:50:26 pm EDT from 24.46.160.84

Have folks received their 'Here in Manhattan' trades yet? I haven't seen it mentioned. I ordered the signed edition, so I assume that will take a little longer.
Craig
posted @ Thu, Apr 4, 2024 12:35:17 pm EDT from 24.46.161.253

I suspect that grotesques resembled gargoyles in so many ways - apart from being water spouts - that it was easy to see them as being the same thing.

I do think that calling the gargoyles of "Gargoyles" "grotesques", even if it was technically correct - would probably come across as insulting.
Todd Jensen
posted @ Wed, Apr 3, 2024 8:08:18 pm EDT from 174.72.60.154

Todd> The term gargoyle being used for grotesques is quite like how Frankenstein's monster is often referred to as just Frankenstein. It's become so common that you can't really change the fact that most people mislabel them. Though I'd be curious to learn where the naming mixup between gargoyle and grotesque came from.
Kate
posted @ Wed, Apr 3, 2024 6:44:27 pm EDT from 208.102.156.56

Weird little bit of news: there's a comic book series that's a kind of crossover between "Batman" and "Scooby-Doo" (admittedly, the concept of having them meet has been around since the 70's), and I discovered at Comics Continuum that the latest issue (which comes out today) had them investigating a case of people in Gotham City turning into living gargoyles. The preview pages, by the way, had Velma pointing out (correctly) that technically, they're turning into "grotesques", because gargoyles are, strictly speaking, waterspouts shaped into "monstrous creatures". (Something that "Gargoyles" itself has never brought up - though given that Greg Weisman's hinted that in the Gargoyles Universe, the term originally referred to living gargoyles and later on came to be applied to the sculptures that were inspired by them, it does make sense.)
Todd Jensen
posted @ Wed, Apr 3, 2024 4:01:41 pm EDT from 174.72.60.154

Tangent, but lookit: talk about another time zone that Greg Weisman can play with if/when we see more Young Justice:

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-68722032

To be fair with Gargoyles, the timestamps do also pop up whenever we see Lexington on a computer, or the internal displays for Coldstone and Coldfire.
Phoenician
Gus: "I always forget you're there." Hooty: "I forget I'm here toooooo."
posted @ Wed, Apr 3, 2024 12:46:20 pm EDT from 72.216.220.229

On the subject of Canadian and LA voice actors appearing together, things have certainly changed then how they used to be. Once upon a time, going from one country to the next was just economically unwise, voice work doesn't pay enough to justify the cost of travel. And there's also the matter of what projects get handed to which production company and what talent pool they'll be using. There's a reason several Canadian actors ended up making the move to the States, there was simply more opportunities.

It was honestly a big to have that crossover with 90's Spider-Man and 90's X-Men. One factor was that 90's X-Men was huge, probably the most ambitious piece of animated story telling Marvel had done at that point (even if they struggled with their animation budget across five seasons) so trying to go with sound-alikes would just stick out. Another factor was that merchandise between the two shows was doing gang busters, so much so that even noted cheapskate Avi Arad was willing to foot the travel bill for the cast.

But things have changed along the last decade and a half, with improvements to things like technology, social media and the likes, if a production wants to use talent from Canada and LA, all they have to do is make sure the cast member can record at home. And since actors have their own mini recording studio these days, that makes it even easier.

On another note, Lawrence Bayne returned for X-Men 97, not playing his old role but he's obviously not lost his touch in the decades since.
Matthew
Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!
posted @ Mon, Apr 1, 2024 11:57:56 pm EDT from 64.85.245.77

Todd> Good observation! Here in a bit I'll probably pull out the issue myself and see if I pick up on anything now that I've finished #12.

I've recently been watching Fargo, and I must say that it's made me way more amicable to giving the gang plot of Here In Manhattan a second chance. It was a bit hard for me to follow the first time around with how many different opposing factions there are, and I was just a bit dismissive of it. But just like a lot of aspects about this series I initially felt indifferent on, I ended up appreciating more over time. And I'm sure this part of the comic I'll come to accept in much the same way.
Kate
posted @ Mon, Apr 1, 2024 11:40:13 pm EDT from 208.102.156.56

JURGAN - Thanks.

On a more serious note, [SPOILER] I was rereading "Trick-or-Treat" over the weekend, and the Gargoyle Task Force were the ones mentioning that Goliath would be at the Halloween block party. That took on new significance after "Gargoyle" #12, where Goliath joined the Gargoyle Task Force at the end - meaning that the Gargoyle Task Force was announcing his presence because he's now one of their own. [/SPOILER]
Todd Jensen
posted @ Mon, Apr 1, 2024 9:47:57 pm EDT from 174.72.60.154

Todd: Nah, just doing my own thing. Not aware of Greg making any similar jokes.
Jurgan - [jurgan6 at yahoo dot com]
posted @ Mon, Apr 1, 2024 9:45:22 pm EDT from 73.98.83.249

JURGAN - So, is the April Fool's Day joke your post about Greg Weisman's post on Twitter, his post on Twitter, or a combination of the two? (To put it another way, did Greg Weisman actually post something about "Gargoyles" and "Young Justice" merging (obviously as an April Fool's)? (I remember that previous April Fool's where you worked together - kind of - on that "Greg Weisman-written episode of 'Power Rangers'".)

I've probably said this before, but if the Gargoyles Universe and Earth-16 *did* converge, I can picture G. Gordon Godfrey insinuating that the gargoyles are aliens as a "sow distrust towards them", only to have the actual audience get mixed up on that and think the gargoyles actually were aliens (based on the audience response to Nokkar's misconception in "Sentinel").
Todd Jensen
posted @ Mon, Apr 1, 2024 8:25:02 pm EDT from 174.72.60.154

I find Raven entertaining in his own way, namely how he doesn't bother with the perfect rhyming that some of the other Third Race members do.

Alex> Oh I actually find it neat when that happens with casting for some reason.

But yeah X-Men '97 interestingly is another case where there's a good amount of both Canada and US voices. Kind of like the casts guest appearance on Spider-Man.

Other rare cases where there was a good mix of both to my knowledge was Camp Candy (80s cartoon with John Candy voicing the counselor), Mucha Lucha and the My Little Pony 2017 movie (Due mainly to Hasbro wanting to have some celebs like their 80s movies).

Though the MLP toon did have some recurring VAs outside of Vancouver like John de Lancie, Weird Al ([SPOILER] Who is now involved with Pinkie [/SPOILER]), Patton Oswalt (And his family in his second ep) and Maurice LaMarche. Plus Lena Hall, William Shatner and Felicia Day.
Antiyonder
posted @ Mon, Apr 1, 2024 6:10:33 pm EDT from 71.84.183.196

Masterdramon, thanks for finding that, though it's not nearly as interesting to me as Greg's revelation on Twitter of the expanded universe. I know people wanted for Gargoyles to become part of the Marvel Universe, but I don't think anyone expected it to share a timeline with Young Justice. In hindsight, it's simplet since there's a whole multiverse for DC, so Gargoyles are in one but they're not bound to every DC idea, though I imagine the Disney and Warner lawyers worked overtime to get it straightened out. I wonder if Goliath's reference to Batman at the beginning of the Dynamite run was foreshadowing? Personally I'm excited to see Puck meet Mister Mxyzptlk.
Jurgan - [jurgan6 at yahoo dot com]
posted @ Mon, Apr 1, 2024 5:08:48 pm EDT from 73.98.83.249

Oh and I do wanna share some thoughts on Heritage, but I want to wait until after I've listened to the podcast which I haven't had a chance to yet.

(Sorry for the double, this comment is more for my own sake so I actually remember to, honestly.)
Alex
posted @ Mon, Apr 1, 2024 3:13:19 pm EDT from 70.48.44.204

@Antiyonder - I think sometimes productions just spent the extra money to pull actors from outside their "market" so to speak when they wanted something specific. (A really strong villain voice for Megabyte for example) In this case, Greg always seeemed to go for authenticity when it came to casting characters that were a specific race (where the race of the character was important), and here he just wanted to get a FN actor to play the part and they had to go to Toronto to find an actor who fit.

@Craig - Honestly, I'd love to pick your brain about HSB someday. So few people I know have seen it, and I think it's absolutely stellar. I... forget the end of season 1, it's been a while since I've watched it, but I was always shocked they didn't get more HSB actors on Gargoyles. I know Bruce Weitz (Belker) did VO in Batman: The Animated Series as Lock-Up and Dennis Franz (Buntz, Benedetto) was in Mighty Ducks. Maybe the right role never came along.

That show just *REALLY* has a firm stance and perspective and message when it comes to a lot of the issues it brings up. It's so far ahead of it's time, this is back in the early-mid 80s and it's got a better grasp on police brutality and race relations than most modern cop shows do. (By... a lot).
Alex
posted @ Mon, Apr 1, 2024 3:08:01 pm EDT from 70.48.44.204

Speaking of Gargoyles actors in other roles, I've just reached the four-episode arc at the end of Hill Street Blues season one which prominently features Charles Hallahan as a racist narcotics detective. Quite a strong performance.
Craig
posted @ Mon, Apr 1, 2024 12:39:56 pm EDT from 24.46.161.38

April brings the primrose sweet,
Scatters daisies at our feet.

From "The Garden Year" by Sara Coleridge

On Lawrence Bayne: I saw him in a short-lived PBS series called "MythQuest" around 2000, which was about a brother and sister who venture into the world of mythology to rescue their father, who'd been imprisoned in it by a trickster-god named Gorgos (Gorgos was the one god who never got any myths, and so was trying to distort or destroy the rest of the myths and legends in the world out of spite; he actually succeeds in wiping out one mythology - a specially invented one for the series - to the point of even erasing everyone's memories of it). Bayne played the part of Set in a two-parter about Osiris and Isis (and Set temporarily took down Gorgos in that story). (The episode also featured Anubis, though he was handled very differently from "Grief"; he was a small boy here, whose jackal-head was really a mask.)
Todd Jensen
posted @ Mon, Apr 1, 2024 9:10:59 am EDT from 174.72.60.154

AN ASK GREG HELPER RESPONDS:

1. Not sure why that's the part that's got you confused, Matthew. The Pledge of Allegiance has ALWAYS been a key part of the Wyvern Clan's rituals, going all the way back to Awakening. It's the "Under the Dragon" clause that was added in 1954 during the height of the Claw War.

2. Check the background of the previous panel again. It's subtle, but among the various workmen in the crowd is one with suspiciously familiar white hair and pointed ears...

3. Honestly, I think Dino just likes physical theatre. Not EVERYTHING the baddie does has to be part of his dastardly scheme.

Of course, I would have thought all this was obvious from reading the issues. I mean, dude, note the timestamp.
Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"If you run you gain one, but if you move forward you gain two." - Suletta Mercury
posted @ Mon, Apr 1, 2024 5:29:05 am EDT from 76.173.137.179

For starters, thanks Todd both for the comments about the Cadejo and my recent poem addition.

But on a more serious matter, there's some questions about both Here in Manhattan and the Dark Ages comics that have been brewing in my mind.

1. The Wind Ceremony starting off with, "I pledge allegiance, to the clan..." I thought gargoyles weren't so possessive that members couldn't leave the clan whenever the wanted. Or was this sworn fealty a product of the medieval setting?

2. During the quartet's gliding adventure with Alesand, what was the reason for her suddenly manifesting wings? I figured it had something to do with Children of Oberon magic somehow getting on her, but to my knowledge none of them made an appearance. Were any of them in disguise?

3. Dino's plan to get rid of the gargoyles was insidiously clever, but what was the point of directing them to that production of Stomp? I think a bomb was supposed to go off when one of the performers stepped on the triggering mechanism? I dunno, wording was a little vague.

If anyone can clarify this it would be really helpful. Otherwise I guess I'll just wait and hope Greg clarifies in the next series.
Matthew
Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!
posted @ Mon, Apr 1, 2024 1:58:06 am EDT from 64.85.245.77

Starting this week with One thing which like others I find worthy to note. Relating to Heritage, again, Raven was voiced by Lawrence Bayne who rarely did US productions and usually in Toronto, Canadian stuff like Cable in X-Men The Animated Series which it's revival has him doing some additional voice work. Plus other returning cast members and US voice actors including additional voice work from Jeff Bennett.

Gargoyles being the reverse of animation produced in Canada by say the Ocean Group in Vancouver which would occasionally have a regular US VA like 2003's He-Man having the lead character voiced by Cam Clark or Captain N The Game Master which had Levi Stubs and for Season Two, Frank Welker as Game Boy, plus Reboot (which is available on TubiTV, BTW) which had Megabyte voiced by the late Tony Jay.
Antiyonder
posted @ Mon, Apr 1, 2024 12:18:31 am EDT from 71.84.183.196