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Anonymous writes...
First off, I know you've heard this a thousand times but,I just have to say Thank you, both for creating the show and for coming here to Station 8 to answer our questions. My question is : Is there any relationship between Oberon's Children and the New Olympians? The reason I ask is because in "The Gathering" there are some fae in the background who look like characters from Greek mythology (specifically Pegasus, a centaur, and a figure that looks more like Medusa than the one in "The New Olympians"). Were these two groups related at some point in the distant past (like when the Greek civilization was begiining to rise)? And if so, why did they split?
Greg responds...
Keep in mind, that most of the fae can take on any form that strikes their fancy. Appearances can be deceiving.
But yes, there is a relationship. With a few exceptions, the current New Olympians are descendants of a group of very mortal "gods and monsters" who chose to retire from humanity and set up shop on New Olympus. These original Olympians were the mortal children of human-fae liasons. (There's more to it than that, but that's the short answer.) Fox and Alexander are basically New Olympians. Sort of. Not really. But you get the idea.
Among the exceptions that I mentioned are the New Olympian Gargoyles, who have full New Olympian citizenship, but are descended from gargoyles, not from humans or fae. Another obvious exception is the robot Talos, who was built centuries ago and has been rebuilt and upgraded more times than anyone has bothered to count.
[Now what's fascinating to me is that I actually answered that question and didn't get cute or evasive. All of the above is info that I hadn't planned on revealing, but, hey, catch me at the right moment and I might even tell you that Brooklyn's kids are named NASHVILLE and TACHI. Doh!]
Anonymous writes...
Hi Greg! I'm just wondering. What inspired you to create the Weird Sisters? Is there any mythology you based them on? And what is the significance of naming them after Moon Goddesses?(Luna, Phobe, Selene) What would you have done with them had the series continued? What would you have done with the clones had you continued the series?
Greg responds...
Well, the immediate inspiration for the Sisters was obviously Shakespeare's Weird Sisters from MACBETH. But a surprising number of cultures have myths of a triple goddess, generally associated with fate and/or the phases of the moon. As I recall, Seline (or Selene) was the name of the Greek goddess of the moon. Luna was a roman name occasionally used for the same goddess.
Phoebe means "bright" (in its feminine form). It was a epithet occasionally used almost as an adjective to describe Artemis (or Diana), the goddess of the hunt, who was also often associated with the moon, just as her twin brother Phoebus Apollo was often associated or confused with Phoebus Helios the god of the Sun. In fact, I had a wealth of names to chose from.
So I finally just picked three that seemed to work well together.
I had many plans for the clones and the Sisters. Too much to relate in this Q&A format.
Anonymous writes...
How many current episodes have been released of Gargoyles? And how many different shows are there
Greg responds...
Uh, if I understand your question...
We made 65 episodes of GARGOYLES. Thirteen in the first season. Fifty-two in the second.
Thirteen episodes of GARGOYLES: THE GOLIATH CHRONICLES were made. I only worked on the first one.
That totals to 78 episodes, 66 of which I was involved in.
Anonymous writes...
Sorry to ask another question so quickly after the first, but did you have a definite villian planned for Timedancer? If Brooklyn was able to jump through time it seems difficult to have a villian keep pestering him, which is why I'm asking.
Greg responds...
From Brooklyn's point-of-view he was gone for forty years. Sometimes he'd bounce into a time period for a few seconds, sometimes he'd be there for years. That being the case, I had a lot of villains planned. Some you know already and some new ones as well. If you're asking whether there would have been one villain who appeared in literally every episode, the answer is no.
But I did have plans for a couple of different antagonists who he'd have faced in more than one era.
Anonymous writes...
On Enter Macbeth, Brooklyn suggests that they read the book Macbeth. Also that shakespeare was a new writer in the 990's, but Macbeth wasn't writen until 1605. How is that possible ?
Greg responds...
You're mistaken. Brooklyn asks Lex who Macbeth is. Lex remembers Goliath talking about a play called "Macbeth" by "some new writer named Shakespeare." To them, Shakespeare was new because he was born centuries AFTER the 990s.
Anonymous writes...
In the episode "Avalon Part 2", the Archmage traveled back in time and saved himseld from dying. How could this have been possible? If the Archmage originally died, how could his older self come back in time and save him?
Greg responds...
A third sigh. Time travel. A working paradox. The Archmage never did die.
Goliath, Hudson and Demona thought he had died, because they saw him fall down into the pit. But before he actually died his "future" self appeared and rescued him. Later, his future self made sure that the rescued self knew how and when to go back in time to rescue the original self, thus completing the perfect circle. The working paradox.
Anonymous writes...
Is there any chance that the gargoyles show will be brought back onto the air? I know that the ratings for the Goliath Chronicles was less than satisfactory but that was mostly due to bad animation, lack of story continuity and bad sound FX. I am sure that if you brought things back up to the level it was in the first two seasons the ratings will return to their normal spectacular level.
Greg responds...
I hate to say this, particularly since I've said it before, but the ratings on GARGOYLES were never spectacular. NEVER. They were better than GOLIATH CHRONICLES (relatively), and good enough to chalk the show up as a hit. But it was a single. Not a home run. Not even a double. We regularly got trounced by Power Rangers.
Again, the best shot for new episodes for the show is the live-action feature film currently in development at Touchstone. If that movie gets made it might reawaken interest in the show, particularly if fandom has kept the flame alive.
Anonymous writes...
More questions: 1) Did the Weird Sisters have some sort of master plan, or
were they really only motivated by revenge? 2) Is the Magus really dead or just in a deep sleep like Arthur? 3) Who created the Phoenix Gate?
4) Will the movie fit into the continuity of the show, or will it be separate? 5) Are Bronx and Boudicca related? 6) In your chat room session at S8 on Feb. 6, you said there were gargoyles on New Olympus. I take it this is one of the clans you gave clues about in your previous set of answered questions, right? 7) Were there any further plans for the other Mazas (Beth, Peter, or Diane)? 8) I previously asked who the mysterious "fifth member" of the Ultra-Pack was. Several people in the comment room here at S8 have thought up some ideas, so I thought I'd run them by you and ask if any of these are the "fifth member;" Delilah, Fang, or Thailog? I also thought of the "fifth member" being Coldsteel (I got the idea from Matthew Drover's question). Are any of these right? Thanks again for giving us this opportunity!
Greg responds...
1. I'm sure I've answered this one -- in detail. But, sigh, the answer is BOTH. Why do you assume these things are mutually exclusive?
2. Dead.
3. I did.
4. Quite separate, I'd guess.
5. No. Well, they may be distant cousins, I suppose, but that's it.
6. Did I give that away? Another sigh. Well, yeah. When the old Olympians decided to retire from the human world and set up shop on New Olympus, they invited the Olympian clan of Gargoyles to join them. Some did. Some did not. The descendents of the gargoyles who did go with them still live with the descendents of those old Olympians.
7. Yes.
8. No. It's a new character. You can't guess it, unless you're psychic.
9. North Dakota.
Anonymous writes...
I'm realy curious about wat you think are the best episodes of Gargoyles.
And, looking back, which episodes do you think should have been done differently or maybe even not at all ?
Greg responds...
There are no episodes that I wish I hadn't done. There were reasons, short- and long-term for every single one. Some episodes don't look very good, and I think the bad animation hurt everyone's overall impression of those episodes' stories. I obviously wish we had brilliant animation on every episode.
Of couse, some episodes were better written than others, but on the page they were all decent scripts. Sometimes we intentionally made unusual change of pace story choices to shake things up. "The Mirror," "Future Tense," "Avalon, Part II," "Night of the Panther," "Vendettas" and "Revelations" are a few examples of this. It's for you all to decide how successful we were.
But I'm very proud of all the stories we told and fairly proud of how all the episodes turned out, given the various constraints (mostly time constraints) that we were under.
There was some great material that didn't get into some episodes because I'm pretty notorious for delivering long scripts. None of it was essential, but some of it was great stuff that I wish you guys could have seen.
There were two story beats I missed until too late, and it really drives me crazy, even today. One was in "The Hound of Ulster". Cu Chullain's armor and bones should have been in the chamber where Banshee imprisoned Elisa, Goliath and Angela. The other was in "Grief". I should have let Coyote kill Elisa, Goliath, Angela and Bronx in the mastaba. If I had been paying attention, I would have noticed that with Anubis imprisoned, the heroes could not die. It would have been much more effective and would have tied in cleaner with the story than what we did do. A horrible missed opportunity. Oh, well.
As to my favorites, well it's hard. My single favorite episode is "The Mirror". Great animation, a great premise, a great story, great character work and....IT'S FUNNY. I'm proud of that, because I got some flack from people who didn't get it in script. They thought it was too complicated.
But the conceit played clear and well on screen, and the jokes still play great.
After "The Mirror", I immediately think of our multi-parters. "Awakening" got it all started and has some gorgeous stuff in there. "City of Stone" really expanded our whole universe and has some of our most honest emotions in it. Plus the Scotish History and Shakespeare and the whole stone human premise stuff is all great as far as I'm concerned. "Avalon" is more rocky, but I'm fond of it. "The Gathering" was hell to produce but had these great revelations in there. Titania's so good at the end there it still makes me smile. And "Hunter's Moon" really tied everything up wonderfully, with great animation, a powerful story, some terrific character work and an ending that left us open to do more, but could still be viewed as the end of a novel.
What next? There are some obvious choices. Although I think it's interesting that the first ones that my mind goes to tend to be the ones that had the best animation. "High Noon," "Future Tense" and "M.I.A." for example, though all also have other reasons why I like them so much. M.I.A.
has Douglas Bader in it and was sort of written for my father. Bader was/is a real hero to my dad. My whole family went with Sir Douglas and his wife to Disneyland once when I was a kid.
"Deadly Force" was probably our most important story. A very powerful episode. "A Lighthouse in the Sea of Time" was another powerful one, but it suffered from having mediocre animation.
I have a personal fondness for "Vendettas" and "The Journey". I like Vinnie a lot more than most of you. Plus I voice directed Vendettas and personally wrote the script for Journey, so I'm even less objective about those two than I am about the rest. Still, I do believe that if either episode had had the kind of animation that "The Mirror" had you'd all like them a lot, lot more.
"Vendettas" in particular depended on comic timing that the animators didn't give us. I also tell myself that Journey would have been better if I had produced it. At least, I wouldn't have messed with my script, reordering scenes and making dumb errors like having Goliath glide off at the end of the episode after making a huge deal over the fact that his wing was injured and he couldn't glide.
How many have I listed? Twenty? Thirty? I could easily keep going.
There's something I like in every single episode. It's like choosing from one's children.
So I'll just shut up now.
Anonymous writes...
How far can a Gargoyle glide before getting tired?
Greg responds...
Depends on a lot of factors. Wind currents, etc. Basically, there's no one answer to that question. And I'm not capable of doing the math.
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