Todd > On the Kickstarter, there was an option that Dynamite called the "treasure chest." It's all three volumes (the Marvel comics, SLG, and Bad Guys) in the deluxe numbered editions, in a slipcase. It's basically just the same material, in (hopefully) really high-quality oversized printings, with (hopefully) nice packaging.
Craig
posted @ Sun, Jun 8, 2025 11:18:27 pm EDT from 69.118.30.106

What exactly is this Gargoyles treasure chest? Have they announced that yet?
Todd Jensen
posted @ Sun, Jun 8, 2025 8:38:55 pm EDT from 68.99.93.213

Should have probably said "backers" in the prior post, not "donors."
Craig
posted @ Sun, Jun 8, 2025 4:16:24 pm EDT from 69.118.30.106

Looking forward to the Kickstarter, whenever it actually arrives. As someone who ordered the expensive treasure chest or whatever it is, I feel bad that that's what seems to be holding up everyone else's orders. I wish they'd just ship the other stuff. I appreciate that they're doing better with updates, but can certainly also sympathize with the frustrations of some of my fellow donors. Times are tough, and people spent not-insignificant amounts of money.

Here's hoping we see Demona #1 this week.

I'm sure this is a rather chaotic time for Dynamite. I think most comic publishers are being hit hard by the tariffs currently. Specifically, Dynamite's Gargoyles comics have to date been printed in Canada, and obviously trade with Canada is rather strained, and substantially costlier than it had been. Separately from that, Dynamite's distributor Diamond Comics recently went through bankruptcy and is under new ownership. There's a lot of uncertainty surrounding Diamond's future, and they apparently owe Dynamite at least half a million dollars.

As I've said before, what bugs me is not the delays themselves, but the nonexistent communication. They advertise all their social media accounts on the back of every issue, but don't use those accounts to keep fans in the loop. It's frankly absurd that, in the age of social media, fans need to proactively reach out to comic shops to ask when the next issue will be out.
Craig
posted @ Sun, Jun 8, 2025 4:13:41 pm EDT from 69.118.30.106

Karrin: Oh, that's hilarious (and I agree about the "nerd glasses"). Now I'm going to have to add looking up that show to my to-do list.

In other news, the Kickstarter just sent out an update saying that the books and the treasure chest are in production, expecting to be done by the end of July. There's also a "huge announcement on the Gargoyles Treasure Chest coming soon." (The commenters in the KS are still not pleased.)

They also mention they're producing everything in North America, claiming this should speed up delivery by a couple of months, which (given shipping schedules recently) is probably correct. It also raises the production costs drastically, judging from what a publisher and teacher of mine has told me in the past. I'd expect that has been accounted for, but boy, that could be a bit ominous if it weren't. Nobody's going to be happy if Dynamite goes broke on this exercise.

(It would be uncouth of me to snipe about Dynamite clearly knowing a thing or two about production delays, so I won't. Can't imagine they're really happy about it either.)
morrand - [morrand276 at gmail dot com]
posted @ Sun, Jun 8, 2025 1:04:31 pm EDT from 108.69.72.60

Karrin> That's great the only way to make it better is if they give the contestants nerd glasses to adjust while answering questions.
Matthew the Fedora Guy
You're Gonna Carry That Weight
posted @ Thu, Jun 5, 2025 7:12:39 pm EDT from 135.180.3.149

>Matthew
Yes, the format is that they have a lot of statements about various nerdy things, where one thing is wrong. Contestants have to buzz in and correct, starting every correction with 'Um, Actually.' So in the gargoyles question, the original statement said that Tony Dracon had shot Eliza with her own gun.
Karrin Blue
posted @ Thu, Jun 5, 2025 4:30:47 pm EDT from 68.9.88.39

Happy Birthday Keith David.
Antiyonder
posted @ Thu, Jun 5, 2025 11:54:03 am EDT from 68.119.3.1

I don't know if this is a bit late or not, but happy birthday, Keith David!
Todd Jensen
posted @ Thu, Jun 5, 2025 9:29:12 am EDT from 68.99.93.213

A very happy birthday, Keith David!

And a trivia game called "Um, Actually" is a brilliant name. That just fits so perfectly.
Matthew the Fedora Guy
You're Gonna Carry That Weight
posted @ Thu, Jun 5, 2025 2:10:09 am EDT from 135.180.3.149

There's a lot of aggressive bot activity out there recently. I'm on another forum that recently had 9704 "users" show up at once and basically shut it down until the admins could filter them out, and my own server (which is just returning 301s right now) has had a few spates of activity intense enough to slow it down, including just now as I'm typing this. So, thanks for fending them off or at least riding through them.

Oh, and of course, a very happy birthday to Keith David!
morrand - [morrand276 at gmail dot com]
posted @ Wed, Jun 4, 2025 9:14:09 pm EDT from 108.69.72.60

KARRIN BLUE - Thanks for posting. Broadway accidentally shooting Elisa still strikes me as one of the big moments of "Gargoyles" - making it all the clearer (if "Awakening" hadn't already done it) that this is not your typical "Disney Afternoon" series.

GOREBASH - Thanks for the info. So it seems to have been just regular bot activity rather than a troll trying to get even. At least it's over (for now - and let's hope it doesn't start up again).
Todd Jensen
posted @ Wed, Jun 4, 2025 7:36:28 pm EDT from 68.99.93.213

Todd, to answer your question from last week, I think it was likely a search engine or data collector (for AI training?) crawling the site and just doing so at a much faster rate than the server could really handle. It could have been malicious, but I think it's more likely just carelessness on the part of whoever was operating it.
Gorebash
posted @ Wed, Jun 4, 2025 4:21:06 pm EDT from 204.144.15.9

On yesterday's Um Actually (the fandom trivia game show on the online streaming service Dropout), there was a question about Deadly Force. No one quite remembered how Eliza had gotten shot until they were reminded, unfortunately, although they did remember how upset Broadway had been after they'd heard the right answer.
Karrin Blue
posted @ Wed, Jun 4, 2025 9:07:51 am EDT from 72.10.127.194

A few more thoughts on last week's podcast on "Eye of the Storm".

[SPOILER] While the potential fate of Odin that Matt mentioned was one of the biggies, a few other tidbits that stood out to me were:

1. The mention that in the Gargoyles Universe, Thor and Loki are most likely dead, casualties of Ragnarok - which has evidently already happened, though not on the world-destroying scale that the Norse myths described (i..e., no wolves devouring the sun and moon or Surtur burning up the nine worlds). Odin likely still got swallowed whole by the Fenris-wolf, but in this version, freed when Vidar tore the wolf apart (I've actually read a speculation, from Brian Braonston's "Gods of the North" - a book I'd like to find and reread someday - that the purpose of Vidar slaying the Fenris-wolf in that manner was originally to release Odin). I can't help wondering whether one advantage of having Thor and Loki dead is that you don't have to worry about your depictions of them getting too close to the Marvel versions.

2. Which reminded me of the talk about just how influential Jack Kirby's depictions of the Norse gods have been, particularly Odin in his "war-god" outfit (in contrast to his "wanderer in a starry cloak" look), and even how, thanks to them, people have forgotten that Thor was originally a red-head. (Having gotten my introduction to the Norse myths through the d'Aulaires' "Norse Gods and Giants" - one of my favorite retellings of Norse mythology to this day, I must be one of the exceptions.) (I also can't help think how appropriate it was, in light of the Norse gods' role in Marvel, that the upcoming crossover with "The Fantastic Four" got discussed in this podcast - even if it was a different corner of the Marvel Universe - complete with the bit about how the gargoyles would have been the "Fantastic Four" of the Disney Action Universe, if it had gotten made.)

3. My suspicion that Gunther and Eric's surname was an allusion to Snorri Sturluson, author of the Prose Edda, one of the leading sources for Norse mythology, was confirmed. (Snorri, by the way, also wrote a more straightforward history of the Kings of Norway - well, it did open with an account of Odin in a semi-rationalized form - called the "Heimskringla". One of the Kings of Norway whose deeds he recounted in it was Sigurt Magnusson, whom we'll be meeting in "Demona" #2; I wonder whether Greg Weisman's read the section of the "Heimskringla" in preparation for that adventure of Demona's.

4.And there was a bit about the picture of Odin on that shield in "Demona #0" - and here mounted on a properly eight-legged Sleipnir, with no worries about the animation difficulties for a still picture - depicting him as bearing Mjolnir. I can't help wondering whether he got hold of it after Thor's demise at Ragnarok (see above) - though the conventional accounts have Thor's sons, Magni and Modi, inheriting it after his death. (Given that Odin had been separated from Gungnir before 971, he might have thought of getting that hammer as a replacement. [/SPOILER]
Todd Jensen
posted @ Mon, Jun 2, 2025 8:47:34 pm EDT from 68.99.93.213

I'll second that. No need for bots slowing things down.
Matthew the Fedora Guy
You're Gonna Carry That Weight
posted @ Mon, Jun 2, 2025 2:04:26 pm EDT from 135.180.3.149

FIRST!

Both S8 and the GargWiki appear to be running much smoother now. *knocks on wood*
Matt
"My daughter?! How dare you mock me! I have no daughter." - Demona, 1996
posted @ Mon, Jun 2, 2025 8:26:21 am EDT from 204.184.178.1