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Zeliard writes...

If it's not to late, the 14 clans contest.

1.Manhattan
2.Avalon
3.London
4.Guatemala
5.Ishimura
6.New Olympus

7.Tibet
8.Bali
9.India
10.Paris
11.Loch Ness
12.Valley of Kings in Egypt
13.Wyvern
14.Ireland

Greg responds...

nine points

tyca

Response recorded on March 17, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

What's the general feeling among the Avalon Gargoyles concerning Oberon and his children's coming to the island? I'd expect there'd be quite a bit of resentment, especially given Magus' death at the hands of the Sisters...

Greg responds...

I think that there's much uneasyness both ways. But I also think the Children like having a few mortals around. And the clan may simply be glad that they have both a roll (i.e. honor guard, i.e. protection) and the support of Oberon.

I tried, in that little scene in GATHERING PART ONE between Oberon and Katharine to indicate that a pleasant detante had been reached.

Response recorded on March 11, 2000

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Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky writes...

1.Arthur
2.Merlin
3.Lady of the Lake
4.Perceval
5.Garlon (the invisible knight from Le'Morte de Arthur)
6.Morgana
7.Blanchfleur
8.Nimue

Greg responds...

Seven.

tyca

Response recorded on March 11, 2000

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Triston Pethybridge writes...

Are there any plans to add clans not corvered in the first four seasons?

Greg responds...

Four seasons?

And, yes. Check the "Clans" archive below.

Response recorded on March 09, 2000

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Todd Jensen writes...

Una and Griff, as we know, look very much like a unicorn and a griffon. In your opinion, are there actual unicorns and griffons out there in the Gargoyles Universe, or were the legends about them founded on sightings of London gargoyles of that sort?

Greg responds...

Probably the latter, unless some fae were goofin' on folk.

Response recorded on March 09, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

With everyone trying to guess at the survivors (ofcourse I hope I have already discovered them :-) let me now try to guess at the clan again...
1.London
2.Ishimura
3.Guatemala
4.New Olympus
5.Greece (yay! :-)
6.Xanadu, China
7.Paris
8.Avalon
9.Manhattan
10.Clones
11.Loch Ness
12.Camelot
13.Easter Island
14.Bermuda Triangle

Not much hope I'll be close... but hopefully we'll get an extra clue... :-)

Greg responds...

10 points. Or rather nine full points and two half points.

(I really give too many clues to these things.)

Response recorded on March 09, 2000

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Lawrence Stone writes...

How large would the clan be by 2158?

Greg responds...

Which clan?

Response recorded on February 24, 2000

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Michael Norton writes...

How are the two Gargoyles and the vegetation from Guatemala faring on Avalon?

Greg responds...

I imagine the vegetation is fairing well. But Jade and Turquesa are no longer on Avalon. They were needed back on Guatemala, so I think they left Avalon A.S.A.P. Of course, we all know that Avalon sends you where you need to be. So I'm sure they had a few adventures of their own. But I imagine their back in Guatemala by now.

Response recorded on February 20, 2000

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Joshua writes...

Ok, Clan Contest

1. Manhattan
2. Ishimura
3. Guatemala
4. Avalon
5. New Olympian
6. London
7. The Clones (I'm guessing they count)
8. The Bermudian triangle clan ! =)
9. Loch Ness clan
10. China
11. A station revolving around the earth
12. the moon
13. mars
14. Underneath the ocean

Greg responds...

8

Response recorded on February 20, 2000

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B5 Mark writes...

Ok, here's my guess for the clans contest:
This post has 2 lists, one with my reasons, and one straight list in case my reasons are too close to story ideas.

Known Clans:
1. London, England
2. Ishimura, Japan
3. Guatemala
4. New Olympus
5. New York
6. Avalon
7. The clones

8. Tibet (It's full of rocks and secretive monks)
9. The Congo (Where Mokele-Mbembe supposedly lives)
10. The North Pole (you said you had a story to tell about Santa Clause)

2 new clans by 2159:
11. Scotland (it has close connections to the N.Y. and Avalon clans)
12. California (why not)

2 new clans by 2259:
13. Underwater (75% of Earth's surface: yeah it's vague, but it's all I could think of)
14. BABYLON 5!!! (Our last, best hope... for Gargoyle-kind) <G>

London, England
Ishimura, Japan
Guatemala
New Olympus
New York
Avalon
The clones

Tibet
The Congo
The North Pole

2 new clans by 2159:
Scotland
California

2 new clans by 2259:
Underwater
BABYLON 5!!!

Greg responds...

What good is publishing these two lists on the same post. If one got kicked, they'd both get kicked. We can't kick half-a-post.

Anyway...

6.5

Response recorded on February 20, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

A guess at the clans...

1.Guatemala
2.London
3.Ishimura
4.New Olympus
5.Paris
6.Transylvania
7.Xanadu, China
8.Avalon
9.Manhattan.
10.Clones
11.Greece
12.Camelot
13.Easter Island
14.South Pole

Greg responds...

9.5 points, which doesn't mean you got nine completely right and one half right.

Response recorded on February 20, 2000

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Michael Norton writes...

My guess at the 14 clans.

1) Manhattan
2) Manhattan (Clones)
3) Ishimura
4) Guatemala
5) London
6) Avalon (from Wyvern)
7) Avalon (from Guatemala)
8) Moscow
9) Rome
10) Paris
11) Athens
12) New Olympus
13) Los Angeles
14) Jerusalem

Greg responds...

7 and 3/4 points.

Thank you; come again.

Response recorded on February 17, 2000

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lisa writes...

HI GREG!

My guess's for the 14 clans

1.london
2.ishimura
3.guatemala
4.montreal, canada
5.venice, italy
6.outer space
7.illuminati clan {having something to do with the illuminati}
8.avalon
9.manhatten
10.moray, scotland
12.paris. france
13.loch ness, scotland
14.cairo, egypt

Greg responds...

seven points

try again...

Response recorded on February 17, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

Is Boudicca the only gargoyle beast of the Avalon clan? And does the fact that gargoyle beasts seem even rarer than normal gargoyles mean that their species is in an even worse danger of extinction?

Greg responds...

No, she's not. But the beast species is, generally, in even greater danger of extinction than gargoyles.

Response recorded on February 10, 2000

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Todd Jensen writes...

How did the Avalon gargoyles learn how to glide? After all, their human foster-parents were obviously in no position to teach them themselves how to do it.

Greg responds...

Trial and error.

Response recorded on February 09, 2000

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Scott Iskow writes...

Questions about future clans:

Are any of them derivative from clans that "currently" exist? For instance, do members of the new clans have roots with Clan Avalon, Manhattan, London, or whatever?

Greg responds...

Yes.

Response recorded on February 09, 2000

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MAui writes...

Hi there ;)

Just wondering...where did you guys come up With the Name Bouhdicca? (sp?) thanks alot, have a ncie day ;)

Greg responds...

Boudicca was a Celtic female warrior. I don't actually know that much about her. Brynne Chandler Reaves and/or Lydia Marano chose that name.

Response recorded on February 09, 2000

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lisa writes...

in 2158 who would be the leader of the wyvern clan?

Greg responds...

Define "wyvern clan".

Response recorded on February 09, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

Is Demona aware of the existence of any gargoyle clan other than that of Manhattan and (after The Reckoning) the ones in Avalon and the clones?

Greg responds...

Probably. (Haven't I answered this before?)

Response recorded on February 09, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

A guess at the clans:

1.London
2.Ishimura
3.Guatemala
4.New Olympus
5.Xanadu, China
6.Loch Ness
7.Paris
8.Avalon
9.Manhattan
10.Clones(California)
11.Camelot
12.Greece
13.Easter Island
14.(a wild guess) Bermuda Triangle

Greg responds...

Ten points.

Response recorded on February 09, 2000

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Catwoman writes...

Okay, I've noticed that the contest of the remaining clans is still open so here are my submissions:
1.Manhattan (the castle)
2.The Labyrinth (Mutates & Clones in Manhattan)
3.London
4.Ishimura
5.Guatamala
6.Avalon
7.Norway
8.Cairo (Eygpt)
9.Paris
10.Southeastern Canada
11.Rome
12.Journeying around the globe (Cold Stone, Steel, & Fire)
13.Scotland (Wyvern)
14.Cyberspace

Greg responds...

You scored eight.

Response recorded on February 09, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

Okay, a clans guess. (it IS a hard contest...)

1. London
2. Ishimura
3. Guatemala
4. New Olympus
5. Paris
6. Xanadu, China
7. Greece
8. Avalon
9. Manhattan
10. Clones (California)
11. Camelot
12. Loch Ness
13. Antarctica
14. Easter Island

Greg responds...

10.5

Response recorded on February 09, 2000

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Heather N. Allen writes...

I'll mention here that I've reintroduced myself to Gargoyles only this summer via fan webpages and I've managed to get Toon Disney for only a month. Therefore, while not completly updated on every detail of each episode, I do remember quite a bit from the original airdates of them. And if this question has been asked before, forgive me, but I've only frequented Ask Greg for three months. If it's in the archives somewhere, just point the way. SOOO, without further ado...

I remember in a past question where you mentioned recycling characters. (Morgan, Margot and Brendan, Vinnie, etc.) While watching the AVALON episodes, I noticed that many of Angela's rookery sibs were identical to those gargoyles seen in Demona's renagade clan from 2nd century, right down to the clothing. As I understood it, she collected THEM from other clans that were destroyed throughout Scotland. No way for their eggs to end up in Wyvern's rookery, or even on Avalon for that matter.

So, here's the question: were these gargs mearly another batch of recycled characters? And if so, why use them on Avalon? Did you see any kind of conflict coming from this? Or is there another reason altogether that I'm missing entirley?

By the way, I REALLY envy you for having created such a great story, with all these fictional and factual elements mixed in to create the best animated series ever. Wish I'd thought of it :)

Greg responds...

If you're looking for the "Behind the Scenes" answer it's pretty obvious. We couldn't afford to design multiple clans of background gargoyles everytime we did a flashback story or went to Avalon. So we reused the models, figuring most people wouldn't notice.

But there's also a within the Universe explanation that works for me. When a Gargoyle clan gets too large for it's location, it splits and colonizes. The Wyvern Clan had been living in relative peace under Prince Malcolm. In my mind it got up to about 100 or so Gargoyles and Beasts. That was too large a number for Wyvern to sustain, so approximately half of the gargoyle population moved on to found a new colony, start a new clan. But all the eggs were left behind in the established Wyvern rookery. The new colony obviously didn't fair any better than Wyvern ultimately, but Demona collected up a few of its survivors, during the Maol Chalvim/Duncan era.

But some of those survivors left eggs behind at the Wyvern rookery, which explains why there are some look-alikes on Avalon.

As for the clothes.... Give me a break.

Response recorded on February 03, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

This is more of a comment/correction rather than a question. I think that you've miscalculated a date. In a previous Ask Greg question you had said that you had once calculated that the gargs both in Avalon and in the real world will lay eggs at 2008. I think that must have been a mistake on your part: I believe that gargoyles lay egg in their 50th or 49th year (biological 25). That would mean that in Avalon-time 50*24=1200 years. The gargs at avalon should lay their eggs only 1200 real-world years after they were hatched. That in turn means that if they were hatched around somewhere around year 1040, they shouldn't lay eggs until 2240 or something like that...

Anyway thought I should mention this...

Greg responds...

No, that's not right.

God knows it's been years since I did this math, however I think you are operating on faulty assumptions.

Yes, the Avalon eggs hatched in 1044.

Thus by 1995, Angela, Gabriel, Ophelia, et al. would all be biologically twenty years old. That's way past Gargoyle puberty in my book. So what remains is for their internal clocks to be in sync, so to speak, with the natural rhythms of the Earth that would put the females "in heat" (for lack of a better term). That would next occur sometime in late 2007 or early 2008.

That easily puts, say, Ophelia in synch with Angela and Obsidiana out in the real world. The difference comes twenty years later in 2028, when the latter two might again lay eggs. But to Ophelia she would have only just laid her first egg a mere 20 months ago. I don't know whether that's enough recovery time for her, enough time for her own internal cycle -- but in any case her first egg certainly wouldn't have hatched yet.

It's also worth considering whether Ophelia and Angela might have been "in heat" in Avalon in 1988? Maybe they were, and maybe Katharine was preaching abstinence in a major way.

Suddenly, I feel like this is Christine's show. :) [No, I haven't read her fan-fiction, but boy have I heard rumors.]

In any case, for those of you with dirty minds, I think Angela was a virgin even at the time of "The Journey". (Broadway too for that matter.) Not so sure about Ophelia.

Response recorded on February 02, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

Here's another try at the clans contest...

1.Avalon
2.London
3.Ishimura
4.Guatemala
5.New Olympus
6.Xanadu, China
7.South Pole
8.India
9.Manhattan
10.Clones
11.Loch Ness
12.Tintagel
13.Easter Island
14.SpaceStation

Greg responds...

Ten points if I'm generous.

Response recorded on January 25, 2000


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