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Blashyrk writes...
In an episode we see Goliath battling Odin, the Norse God. Later in the gathering story line, we see Odin as a Child of Oberon.Does this mean that in the Gargoyles universe, the Gods of the ancient Norse religion are children of Oberon? If so they really messed up on the whole not interfering on human affairs thing, I mean look whats happeneing in Norway now because of belief in Odin.
Greg responds...
What's happening in Norway now because of belief in Odin? You mean right now?
Anyway, yes, Odin and the Asgardians are all of the Children. (Though, of course, they're not literally Oberon's sons and daughters.) As for the Non-interference edict, I think most of Asgardian mythology took place before the edict.
Excelsior writes...
In "The Price," after Hudson escapes Xanatos's dungeon, Xanatos bitterly comments that he now has no one to test the Cauldron of Life's magic on. Ever the good servant, Owen volunteers and sticks his hand into the cauldron without a second thought.
Now, I know Xanatos isn't the most practical being on Earth, but couldn't he have just dipped one of his little lab animals into the brew, or even one of his lower-level lackeys?
Greg responds...
Owen didn't give him the chance. I think Owen was feeling a little jealous of Xanatos' praise of the Macbeth robot. He dived right in, so to speak.
Of course, both men knew that "Owen" really had nothing to lose by dipping his hand. That's why both had such mild reactions to Owen's hand turning into stone.
Siren writes...
The Magus and Puck look very similar...are the related is is that pure coincidence?
Greg responds...
I don't think they look very similar.
Jim writes...
Hello Greg, can you tell me the names of the three 'weird sisters'?
Thanks for your time in advance.
Greg responds...
Again?
Phoebe, Seline, Luna.
MtMagus writes...
In Norse mythology, Odin traded his eye (as well as a number of other nasty things that happened to him) for knowledge of the Universe which partly came in the form of 2 ravens known as "Thought" and "Memory". The fact that Odin is allowed to recover the eye and the notable absence of the Ravens in his first appearance suggests that he has lost the knowledge that he traded for. If this is true, what happened to the knowledge he received?
Greg responds...
I wouldn't read the myth that way. I don't ever recall the Ravens as being part of the bargain. It seems to me they were his familiars already. Odin was a knowledge junky. He gained a ton of info by sitting atop his perch in Yggdrasil. That led him to Mimir the wise frost giant, who agreed to trade Odin's eye for a drink from his Well of Knowledge. (Am I getting this right? Someone backstop me.)
Anyway, it seems to me that the eye got away from Mimir (Hard to hold onto something after you've been beheaded.) Which means it is fair game for anyone to salvage, whether Xanatos, Fox, the Archmage, Goliath or Odin himself.
Don't read too much into the absense of the Ravens. As always, the list of what we didn't have time to include could fill a set of encyclopedias.
Siren writes...
Resubmission:
If the show continued, would you might have introduced other mythology characters, such as Pegasus, unicorns, dragons (besides the stone one), etc. If so, would they be considered New Olympians or Fay? And would they speak?
Greg responds...
Everything we did would be decided on a case-by-case basis. There's no way to answer this blanketly.
Aris Katsaris writes...
In the original Irish myths the Banshee's voice was used to foretell rather than cause deaths. I think that would normally make her in your universe one of the fays with magical talents connected to death - a minor death goddess perhaps.
In the episode 'The Hound of Ulster' though, her voice carries a different meaning (as a bringer of death rather than as a foretelling of it) which would not make her necessarily have a greater connection with death than any other fay. However she managed to recognize which one among millions of people was the reincarnation of Cuchullain. Is that a special talent of hers (signifying perhaps that she is indeed a minor death-goddess) or is that a skill that every fay has? Your take on this?
Greg responds...
In my head, the Banshee's cry is a foreteller -- but for GARGOYLES purposes, it was an easy extrapolation to make it a weapon (and general magical tool) as well. We also wanted to get that Barghest notion of the Great Beast's howl, being a similar foreteller and so we simplified things a bit. (Hopefully not too much.)
The notion of the Banshee as a minor death goddess seems accurate to me. But it doesn't put her on Anubis' level. Lots of Children have the ability to bring death.
As for recognizing Rory, well, I think that has less to do with her connection to death than on their personal history. Recognizing him was something she'd go out of her way to do, because he posed a threat to her. (And for other reasons, that she's not even aware of yet.)
E.J. Kalafarski writes...
Hey Greg, just one question that's been bugging me. Did Puck in any way influence Xanatos's decision to hire Fox as the leader of The Pack? If not, then it's a pretty incredible coincidence that a fey and the daughter of a fey just so happened to come under the employment of the same mortal man. I mean, according to Oberon's law, there shouldn't be too many fae wandering around in Manhatten in the first place, right? I'm assuming something (or someone) led Xanatos to hire (and marry) Fox, which caused Oberon (who was only trying to bring Alexander to Avalon) to run into Puck. If this question has already been answered, I ask you to forgive me :-)
Greg responds...
No, you've got it backwards, sort of. But it's not a coincidence at all, if you've seen "The Gathering, Part Two".
Puck became Owen because he spotted Titania posing as Anastasia. And he went to work for Xanatos because David and Fox interested him. They were already something of a couple before the Pack was formed. (Or at any rate, before "Thrill of the Hunt".)
Aris Katsaris writes...
Judging from Sleipnir, as well as the brief appearance of a Pegasus-type animal in 'The Gathering I" and ofcourse from one's of various mythologies... is there a species of non-sentient "fay beasts"? Or is Sleipnir, Pegasus, Fenrir and so on all sentient fays which simply choose animal forms as their 'favourite' ones?
Greg responds...
There may be fauna on Avalon. And the magic of the place may have had some small effect on them. Like sorcerous radiation.
But fauna would not have attended the Gathering. So any seeming beast you saw there, like Anansi for example, is one of the Children in a form of his or her choosing. (If you see a polar bear walking around the palace, the odds are it's Odin.)
Now Slepnir is another story. If the legends are true, then Slepnir's mother was the trickster Loki, and his father was an actual horse. Making Slepnir half-horse and half-fey. (Which might serve to explain his modern transition from eight legs to four.) I haven't decided 100% if that's the route I'm taking in the Gargoyles universe, but the notion is appealing.
And it would suggest that New Olympus is filled with all sorts of bizarre beasts who are the descendents of various unions between the fey and so-called lower animals.
Aris Katsaris writes...
Okay, I'm not certain if this question has any meaning where immortal shapeshifters are concerned but here goes:
How many years between a fay's birth and his/her adulthood?
Greg responds...
Depends.
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