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Hi greg, i was wondering what you thought of matt Bluestone's obsession with the paranormal and other conrpiracy theories? Do you believe there is other life out there in the universe? What are your views on the subject?
I believe there is other life out there in the Gargoyles Universe.
1.Are most of the worlds conquered by the Space-Spawn pre-interstellar flight worlds like Earth? Or are they a variety made up of pre-interstellar flight worlds and worlds with interstellar flight?
2.How many races aside from the ones native to Earth do the Space-Spawn control? Do they control any N'Kai or former N'Kai worlds? Are there any N'kai willingly allied with the Space-Spawn?
1. A mix.
2. I'm not delving into this at this time.
1.Are the space-spawn better warriors than the N'Kai or the other race involved? If so why? Are they just physically stronger or do they just have good morale and are fanatical about it?
I decline to go into details about this now.
How large is the N'kai fleet? The space-spawn fleet?
Both are large enough. (Did you really expect me to have hard numbers?)
2.Do Sentinels just guard over low tech planets? If so how many of these low tech planets are there considering the small number of habitable planets? How many Sentinels are there?
I've never counted.
1.You have said that there are less than 20 races involved in the war and that life bearing planets are few, but can give birth to many races so does this mean that this war is being fought by a handful or two of planets?
Dude, I have reread your question three times and I still don't know what you're asking. But I'll take a shot ...
Prior to humanity and the gargoyles getting involved in the conflict with the Space-Spawn, there are three main races involved in the overall war: the Space-Spawn, the N'kai and another race that I haven't told you guys much about.
There may be a few other races out there, but as I think you noted, I don't plan on making the Gargoyles Universe resemble the tavern scene from Star Wars.
1.Of the races in the galaxy are any of them as long lived as Nokkar?
2.How long can one member live? Any one of them older than human civilization?
1. As the N'kai, you mean? At any rate, I haven't defined the lifespan of individual space-spawn yet. They may also be very long-lived. I haven't decided. Otherwise, no.
3. One member of what? And how are you defining "civilization"?
Why are the space-spawn winning the war when the N'kai are older?
How old is this galactic war?
Older than Nokkar?
Old, by human standards.
What kind of government do the N'kai have? A Democracy? A dictatorship?
What about the space-spawn and this third race?
The closest Earth-equivalent to the Space-Spawn's government is a militocracy.
I'm intentionally not revealing anything about the N'kai or the other alien race.
How many major powers are there in the galaxy? Are the space-spawn, N'kai and this third race considered major powers in the galaxy?
2) Yes. (Keep in mind that the third alien race should not be confused with "The Third Race" a.k.a. Oberon's Children.)
greg where can i find more info on all the "Space-Species-Nokkar-Futurama" crap i keep reading about in the archives. my brother and i really want to know. is there a web site or info centre i could go to to find our more or is all i can do just read the archives and try to figure it out like that. please throw me a bone.
Seriously, why should I throw a bone to someone who refers to my stuff as crap? Does this method of antagonizing people you're asking favors from work for you in life?
But since someone reading this (a year and a half after you asked) might also be interested, I'd suggest looking at the Gargoyles 2198 archive. Most of what exists is in there.
Which side in the galactic war has more troops?
I haven't counted.
Is this third mysterious race involved in the galactic war allied with the Space-spawn?
Again, I assume you're referring to the fact that I mentioned that prior to the entry of Humans and Gargoyles into the conflict their were three major races involved in this centuries-old dispute. The N'Kai, the Space-Spawn and a third race that I've given no details on.
Still, by definition, their involved.
Is this third race helping the N'kai?
Again, by third race, I'm assuming you're not referring to Oberon's Children, but to the as yet unnamed alien species.
In any case, I'm not answering that right now.
Was the third unknown race a dominant force in the galaxy before the Space-Spawn?
Just to be clear, for those just arriving, I believe Galvatron is making reference to something I said about there being three alien species in 2198, who are major players in the galactic conflict.
1. The Space-Spawn.
2. Nokkar's people.
3. A third species I haven't said much about yet.
4 & 5. Would be humans and gargoyles from Earth, I guess. After 2198, that is.
And I'm not saying that there aren't other alien species too. But these are the major players.
Anyway, to answer your question... it depends on how you define dominant. They were extremely prevalent, wide-spread. But not necessarily in charge.
Just curious is Coyote-X for the Space-spawn occupation of Earth or is he against it?
What about the Space-Spawn are any of them against the occupation of Earth?
Coyote-X views the invasion as an eye-opener. It resets his parameters. Who holds the status quo is of less interest than who will ultimately hold the Galaxy.
The Space-Spawn are no more monolithic than the humans or the gargoyles or anyone. So some may object. But you're not going to meet many of them early on.
More Space-Spawn questions...
1) Will there be any main individual Space-Spawn characters in Gargoyles 2198?
2) If so, will there be more than one?
3) Are they necessarily all villains?
3. Not saying.
Last question from the galactic view would the Space-Spawn occupation of Earth and it eventual rebellion be an important event in the intergalactic war?
Other than the Space-Spawn, the N'Kai and that mysterious third race that has a major role in the war, do you have plans/specific ideas for any other alien sentient species?
If yes, then how extensive are those ideas? (e.g. just a few names of species or entire biologies/cultures/histories figured out? :-)
I've got a loose but fairly clear idea about what I want to do with the Space-Spawn, the N'Kai and the other alien species. And I'm not ruling out the notion that there are more than just these three (plus our Earth born races). But I haven't taken the time or effort to develop those. And I probably wouldn't unless I found a format for telling Garg Universe Outer Space Stories. I've got the arc down. The specifics would be left to story telling.
Do the N'kai have gods? What about the Space-Spawn?
1. I don't know yet.
2. They have two gods.
Are there any political entities in 2198 in the Milky Way galaxy more powerful than the Space-Spawn Empire?
How did the Space-Spawn develop into the threat that they¡¯re?
Can the N¡¯kai take them down?
It depends how you define "political entities" and "power".
Victory after victory.
Why are the N'kai losing the war?
In how many words or less?
Were the N'kai the dominant force in the galaxy before the Space-Spawn?
How many sentient races (excluding those native to our Solar System) are there in the galaxy? Hundred? Thousand?
Fewer than 100.
What are Space-Spawn ships made out of? Metal? If so what kind of metal?
Haven't worked this out, in part again, to keep open to what my theoretical collaborators might bring to the design of Space-Spawn technology.
Who is more powerful? Oberon or a Space-Spawn planetbuster?
See, now, the Hulk is more powerful because the madder he gets, the stronger he gets. But the Thing can still beat him if he keeps his wits about him.
(This does seem familiar, doesn't it?)
1.Have you givens names to all the races involved in the galactic war yet?
2.What role do the other races involved in the war play in the war?
1. No. Not all. Just the major ones.
2. I'm not telling.
1.Did the N'kai develop faster than light travel or did they get it from someone else?
2.Are the N'kai the oldest race in the galaxy? If not who is?
1. They developed it.
2. It's a big galaxy. But they are old.
1.Seriously what is Nokkar's spaceship made out of? metal?
2.Do the N'kai and Space-Spawn have anti-gravity technology?
3.How exactly does the Space-Spawn planetbuster work? Does it destroy the Earth like the Death Star or does it just make the surface uninhabitabele? Does Nokkar's race have planetbuster technology?
Seriously, I don't feel like telling you.
You wrote: "Sentient races are few and far between in the Gargoyles Universe. Not commonplace."
I have to say that I found this somewhat funny (both haha-funny and weird-funny). You've placed the origins of *four* sentient races on a single planet, but say that sentient races are nonetheless few and far between...
[As a sidenote I have to say that this seems like a distinction between science fiction and fantasy - most fantasy does indeed place many sentient species on the same planet - science fiction tends to be more conservative in this regard...]
So... is there any special reason/explanation that Earth gave birth to so many sentient species or is it just an amazing statistical fluke?
My explanation is that habitable planets are few and far between.
And four isn't that big a number in the grand scheme of things.
The statement you quoted is relative. I meant, don't expect to see a scene with 100s of alien species walking around.
But mostly, the reason is I want to keep the galaxy semi-quantifiable. Instead of constantly bringing in more and more random elements, I'd like to, in essence, create political situations and play with them. I'm not sure that's clear. But as you may have gathered, I like things defined so that the storylines have boundaries to push and bend and break. If you constantly feel like ANYTHING can happen, then I believe it hurts the drama.
In the Gargoyles universe, which alian race was it that came down in area 51?
I think it was mostly celebrities, drug dealers and super-models.
Oh, wait. That's Studio 54 not Area 51.
What is more powerful Oberon or a Space-Spawn planebuster?
What is a planebuster?
ok, the Space-Spawn have the power to destroy a planet:
1. have they had this ability for a while? like more than 100 or a 1000 earth years?
2. do they have many such planet destroying devices or just one or two? are they common parts of Space-Spawn military groups?
3. if they tried to destroy the Earth would it completly blow up the planet like a Star Wars Death Star or Titan AE kinda thing or would it just kinda melt the surface, boil the oceans, kill all life way of destroying the planet?
4. if they did blow up the Earth what would happen to Avalon?
5. in 2198, do any of the races on Earth have anything that could stop the Earth from being destroyed if the Space-Spawn wanted to?
1. I don't know.
2. It's not a unique device, but not common either.
3. Blow it up.
5. Potentially, but not with any guarantees.
Given the Space Spawn's reputation in 2198, am I right that Nokkar will have a bad rep to for just being from space? Or will he not have revieled himself to the public yet, and just work in secreat at HQ? What has his chain of Easter Island friends turned into by this point?
Nokkar's still largely a secret in February, 2198. I'm not saying more than that right now.
What is the N'kai's homeworld called? Where exactly is it in the galaxy? If you can't be very specific could you tell us by which stars it's located by?
Haven't bothered naming it yet, to be honest.
It's in the Milky Way Galaxy and I haven't pinned it down more specifically than that.
1.In 2198 which side is winning the war the N'kai, the third unknown race or the Space-Spawn?
2a. What is the role of the third race?
2b.Are they allied with one of the two sides we presently know of or are they a 3rd side trying to expand their borders at the expense of their neighbors?
1. The Space-Spawn.
2a. Not going to tell you.
2b. Not going to tell you.
We call ourselves humans and the gargs call themselves the gargoyles what exactly is the name the Space-Spawn call themselves?
What makes you think it isn't "Space-Spawn"?
At the time the space-spawn (is that the name they call themselves?) take control of Earth, who is winning the war?
Maybe that's a little ambiguous.
1. Which side controls the most territory?
2. Which side has the greatest numbers?
3. If they were so inclined, does Nokkar's race have the resources to reconquer Earth?
The Space-Spawn are clearly winning.
1. Space Spawn.
2. This is immaterial.
3. Without it getting destroyed in the process? Hmmm. I doubt it.
Is Nokkar wearing a suit of armor or is he a cyborg? If the latter, is that part of why he's lived so long?
He's not a cyborg.
How far will Earth have gone into space exploration by 2198? Will we have left our solar system?
No. Well, do you mean manned space exploration?
If all things are true in the Gargoyles Universe, then are UFOs (and all related phenomena, including abductions) really appearing there?
In one form or another.
The Anonymous question about Nokkar's race's proximity to being a First One is a Babylon 5 reference. The First Ones are several fairly ancient and powerful alien races (the Shadows and the Vorlons being the main examples in the series). So, his question could be rephrased as, "Does Nokkar's race qualify as ancient and powerful in the universe?"
Just clearing that up. (I hope.)
Ancient and fairly powerful. Age and power all being relative in this context.
Are the Space-Spawn from within our galaxy (the Milky Way) or do they hail from another galaxy? If the latter, do they rule a substantial portion of their home galaxy?
At this time, everything I've created for the Gargoyles Universe takes place within the Milky Way Galaxy (at least through 2198).
Okay, we've asked you this question before, and you've never really given a strait answer. Nothing says you will now, but here goes:
1) What happens to the stone sleep cycle of gargs in space?
I know the sleep is a biological process that's triggered by the sun. So, would they keep their normal cycle of 12 hours, or would the cycle change.
If you dont want to answer that question:
2) Have you yet figured out what happens to gargoyles in space, and you just dont want to tell us, or are you waiting for divine inspiration? :)
1. Don't know. Haven't tried it.
2. I'm not sure about divine. But there's a reason why Zafiro and Demona are the one's who join Nokkar, Guardian and LXM on 'the away mission' in space.
Apart from world domination, what do the Space spawn aquire from invading earth, by their standerds we would be a pretty primitive world even by 2198, what was so special in earth, or was it more, like just because they could do it?
It was just more territory, as their empire expanded. We weren't considered special particularly. Leastways not at first.
Just saw and recorded Sentinal, an episiode I origanally didn't like very much, when I thought aliens and Olimpians were too fantastic. But now that I've read the layout for the new spin off, and I can see where all this space spawn stuff is heading, I found it much more intreging!
Some questions though:
1)When Nokar first appeared and toke Elisa away, why did he just knock out Bronx and wait till latter to catch him all over again?
2)Nokar had a bunch of small rat like droids running about his ship, what were their purpose?
3)Why did Elisa chose the name tiny for Goliath?
4)A)When Goliath destroyed the control panal, which in turn destroyed that big central thing, how much did that hurt the space ship? It was still able to rise outa the ground and fire that cannon. B)Will Nokar be able to repair it?
5)A)How is Nokar getting on with his new friends? B)Has he made any more?
Thats all for this fun Ep. Nice work!
1. His priority was getting Elisa to safety.
3. She was being sarcastic. (Sloth, why did you think?)
5a. Not saying.
5b. Not saying.
Has the Space-Spawn or the third race involved in the war ever visited Earth before 2001? If so when?
The Space-Spawn have not. They first arrive in 2198.
I'm not confirming or denying the rest.
Are all three races involved in the galactic war bipeds?
What attributes does the third race in the war possess?
What do they look like?
SO not telling.
1.What do the Space-Spawn look like?
2.What special attributes do the Space-Spawn possess? For example gargoyles turn to stone, the fay can use magic without outside help and Nokkar's race has a very long lifespan.
1. Not telling at this time.
2. They don't eat cheese.
Which star system(s) did Nokkar's people originate? How many sentient races emerged there?
Sentient races are few and far between in the Gargoyles Universe. Not commonplace. I have a good idea about this. But I'm not going to break it down in specific numbers for you.
As to which star system, I don't pretend that I've bothered to figure that one out yet.
What did you mean when you said "hit the Space-Spawn where they live" in Gargoyles 2198 contest? Are you referring to the Space-Spawn homeworld? If so shouldn't Nokkar's people be doing that already?
I'm not going to get as specific as to say "homeworld".
As for Nokkar's people, what makes you think they aren't doing just that. Or for that matter, what makes you think any of them are still alive?
My point is that you don't know enough to judge.
1.How could the Space-Spawn be "born amidst the fury of an exploding star" I'd think thats impossible considering the heat and radiation?
2.Where and when was the exploding star?
1. It's wonderful that you're so confident given the incredibly small amount of information that you have about them.
2. In space. Some time ago.
How close is Nokkar's people to First One status?
I don't know what that means.
Compared to the territory held by Nokkar's people is the territory held by the Space-Spawn larger or smaller?
1.How old is the Space-Spawn race?
2.What is their name for themselves?
3.Did you plan to introduce specific members of the Space-Spawn?
4.Are they as long lived as Nokkar?
1. Old enough.
4. Individually? No.
By now the 2198 contest has probabyl ended so a few questions
1.Why doesn't Oberon involve himself in the war afterall the head of his honor guard has been taken hostage along with Titania's grandson?
2.What ever happened to Natsilane's parents?
3.Is the Delilah, Samson and Zafiro relationship in anyway like that of the trio? Who exactly is Samson's mate going to be?
4.What is the proper name for the Space-Spawn
5.How did Coyote become so devious?
1. Are you sure Oberon is still alive?
2. I'm not answering this now.
3. Well, there are three of them. But no two groups are exactly the same. Samson likes Delilah. Delilah likes Samson. But whether they ever become mates is an open question.
4. As opposed to Space-Spawn?
5. Iron supplements.
How does Nokkar's race reproduce? Are they asexual?
Not going into that now.
Another try at sending this out-
I just typed up a particularly long question that didn't post and got lost, and I was foolish not to copy it somewhere before hitting submit. I apologize if it turns up later and this becomes a double post, and also if I can't get rid of the autoformating in Word and it looks a little screwy. After losing that long a question I am not taking a chance working directly into the web page.
It has been a long time since I posted a question... of course it has been a long time since I have been caught up with your answers. After reading all of the new responses, particularly those dealing with Oberon and Titania, a question has come to mind. [Actually two, but how many new ways can you ask, "What did Titania whisper to Fox?"? That question should almost have its own section.] The short form of the question is this: Just how different are Oberon's hildren from humans? I am not referring to physical or magical characteristics, but rather do they think in a quantifiably different way than do humans?
The long version of the questions comes after the long digression:
A while back a friend practically shoved an anthology into my hands and insisted I read a particular article. I believe it was called, "Hamlet in the Bush". The gist of it was that a young anthropologist found herself with an indigenous culture for a long boring stretch. [She had thought the off season would be a wonderful time to get to observe their culture. Had she asked them they would have told her the off season is the off season because the weather is so miserable that they cannot even visit the next village. They spend the time drink the local equivalent to bear waiting for it to pass.]
Before leaving she had had an argument with a friend. She argued that at base all humans are the same and once you do some explaining to take care of cultural differences, a great work of literature would be recognized as such by all people. The example that was bandied about was Hamlet, so he gave her a copy as a going away present.
With nothing else to do she sat in her tent and read it over and over until the locals asked her what on Earth she was doing. They were a non-literate culture and to them reading papers meant reading boring legal documents. Even a white person could not be so daft as to spend weeks doing so. She seized upon it an opportunity to test her theory and they, being a story telling culture, were happy to oblige.
She immediately ran into two problems:
-1-They didn't have a concept of "ghost". Zombie, yes. Evil spirit in false guise, yes. But the idea of a dead person's spirit hanging around this world was simply ludicrous to them.
-2-They thought Claudius was a great guy. He acted as an exemplary uncle and brother-in-law, although he waited a bit long in taking care of his brother's household. [Three whole months! And with only one wife to tend the fields!]
In the end they loved the story (with their corrections) and thought she was on her way being a great storyteller, (being female aside). They also told her to be sure to tell her elders that they had been good hosts and had corrected her misremembering lest she continue in error.
I think her premise held, but she hadn't realized how far cultural difference went. The more complex the story, the more it was tied to its own cultural assumptions and the harder it is to explain to another culture.
Back to Gargoyles-
In Gargoyles the basic emotions seem pretty much universal. Gargoyles, humans, New Olympians, and even Nokar and Matrix as far as we have seen them, display them. Love, hate, curiosity and fear, as well as slightly more complex emotions of protection and loneliness are clearly expressed and are more easily understood than some lost cultures of our own ancestors. Are Oberon's Children fundamentally different, or if we can imagine long enough the effects of great power and incredibly long lives we can empathize without too much brain-sprain?
There are great works of speculative fiction that try to understand the mind of The Other. Zelazny had a whole series of stories of robots worshiping and trying to understand the long last human race. I recently read a great book called "Exogesis" (a post-modern Prometheius) by Astro Teller dealing with how a newly emerged AI might think and how humanity might respond. If I would list every book I could think of on the topic I will never stop typing and will eventually have feel the urge to start listing plays and movies as well, (and probably have to deal with Frankenstein, and I am not fond of the book. It is hard to like a book when you hate the main character. Perhaps the movies were right to make the monster the lead character. :).
It all boils down to this: Are the Children of Oberon "the Other", or something very much like ourselves?
Boy this is long! sorry.
Don't apologize. It's fascinating.
Boiling it down...
Are Oberon's Children fundamentally different, or if we can imagine long enough the effects of great power and incredibly long lives we can empathize without too much brain-sprain?
I'd have to say the latter. Great power. Little or no responsibility. Long lives. Being able to look however you feel at a given moment. You add these things up and they may seem other for awhile. But fundamentally, it's about extrapolation on our human emotions.
Because fundamentally, as a writer, what else can I do? Maybe someone else has the talent, ability, INTEREST in truly creating the OTHER. But not me. I'm interested in US. Gargoyles, humans, Oberon's Children. Toss in the New Olympians, Nokkar, the Space-Spawn, the Lost Race, etc. I'm fundamentally interested in figuring out what makes us real world humans tick. Or boil it down further, and I'm fundamentally interested in figuring out what the hell makes ME tick. All the characters in the Gargverse are just there as an alternative to me being in therapy, I guess.
Does that make sense?
What is the birthrate for Oberon's children?
What is the birthrate for Nokkar's race?
What is the birthrate for the Space-spawn?
What is the birthrate for the third race involved in the galactic war?
What was the birthrate for the lost race?
At this time, I have not set any of these things in stone. INTENTIONALLY.
(Laughing at Sapphire's comment to matt.) Well, buddy, it looks like you and I both get ourselves in deep water sometimes...Let the Almighty and Honorable Greg Weisman be the judge, for this is his courtroom. (Laughs)
Anyways...(turning to Greg)
Do members of the Third Race exist outside of Earth? Because, we all know that from what Broadway said, there are three Earth races: Humans, Gargoyles, and Oberon's children. But....
Should your Space Spawn series go through...there would undoubtedly be a fourth race, maybe not Earth-originated, but yet another race. So eventually that leads me to believe that could there be be other races in the universe that exist like Oberon's children?
I've always sort thought of Oberon's children like the "Q" on Star Trek...And the Space Spawn spinoff sort of clashes two worlds together, as if Babylon 5 and Hercules got together, if you know what I mean...
I don't think I do know what you mean.
If you're asking if there are other magic-based races out there in the cosmos, then I'd be a fool to say NO absolutely. Big cosmos, you see. But if you're asking if those races are directly related to Oberon's Children, then the answer is no.
I'm sorry this question has been asked before. I've been going through the archives for a while now (this'll be my first question) and I haven't come across any references to it, but you never know, right?
Anyway, I just saw a repeat of "Sentinel" last night, and it struck me as a very pilot-esque episode, like you'd set up in mind for a spin off (something like "Widget the World Watcher" meets "Transformers", only more grounded in reality). And yet, you seem to have no intention to spin it off. How come? Did you originally intend to, but decided against it as you felt it wasn't strong enough to carry a series, focusing instead on the other possible spin-offs? Or am I just making things up in my head?
Mostly in your head.
It was never intended to be a spin-off per se, but it was a plot thread I wanted to pick up again later. MUCH LATER. Like in 2198.
How do Nokkar's people reproduce?
Behind closed doors.
How is it that the space spawn war hasn't ended after a few thousand years? I mean both sides would have felt the results of the war that they would want to negotiate a treaty.
So you say.
Would a gargoyle be any different in space than a human? Does their physiology differ that much from ours if they were to be sent into space? And do gargoyles have a lesser tolerance for gravity then us seeing how they are more like birds and bats that have wings? (I would think their skeletal structure would be hollower than that of a human so they could generate lift)
As I've said before, nothing about Goliath's strength suggests a hollow skeleton to me.
Otherwise, there are going to be some differences. But not obvious stuff like gravity and oxygen and vaccuum.
Would the Space-spawn be curious about magic, or would they be unaware it even really exists on Earth?
Not gonna answer this 'til contest is over.
Do any of the races involved in the Space-spawn War possess technological time travel?
Not casually, no.
How many other races besides the Space-Spawn, Nokkar's people and the third unknown race are involved in the intergalactic war? Hundreds? Thousands?
"involved" is a pretty vague word.
But less than twenty.
If Nokkar's race has a very long natural life span, then wouldn't Nokkar's home Planet be overpopulated?
Nokkar has been on the Earth for 3000 years, obviously he wasn't born on our world and he would have reached adulthood before he came to the Earth. Then he was older than 3000 years when he first came here.
So if all the beings on his home world have long life spans, their death rate wouldn't be very high and their birth rate must be much larger that the death rate.
Or is that most of the race is posted on other Planets, like Nokkar is on Easter Island, looking out for the Space Spawn?
The birth rate, though higher than the death rate, may still be VERY low. Plus they aren't limited to one planet.
I wouldn't worry about it.
What is the average lifespan of a member of the space-spawn race?
Was the intergalactic war between Nokkar's people and the Space-Spawn always a hot war or was it sometimes a cold war?
I can't answer that now.
This is a question on Nokkar, but don't worry; it's about him as portrayed in "Sentinel" and isn't "Gargoyles 2198"-linked.
I've noticed that a great many "Gargoyles" fans have displayed a low opinion of Nokkar as a character because of his treatment of the gargoyles, mistaking them for spies for the Space-Spawn and refusing (until almost the last moment) to reconsider; they've considered him a stubborn fool. While I can't approve myself of Nokkar's attitude of "I've already made up my mind; don't confuse me with the facts" myself, I have wondered from time to time if we haven't been doing him something of an injustice.
The big element in this pondering is this question that I find it's occasionally useful to ask ourselves regarding those enemies of the gargoyles who fought against them because they believed the gargs to be evil monsters; would we have felt the same way about these people if the gargoyles really were a race of evil demons? In some cases, my answer would have been "Yes". I would have felt the same way about the Pack in "The Thrill of the Hunt", for example, or Castaway in "The Journey", because their reasons for going after the gargoyles were ignoble ones (the Pack motivated by a desire for simple excitement, Castaway by hatred and a desire for revenge) rather than for the purpose of protecting the community, and because they were willing to endanger innocent bystanders in a very ruthless fashion to achieve their goals.
But with Nokkar, my response is different. For one thing, he really does come across in "Sentinel" as genuinely concerned for the well-being of the inhabitants of the planet that he's been assigned to protect. He clearly shows concern for Elisa - he immediately asks her, after bringing Goliath down, if she's all right, and trusts her enough, in fact, to give her the personal guided tour of his spaceship. When Elisa finally, out of instinct, sides with the gargoyles and comes to their rescue, Nokkar still does whatever he can to treat her gently, and asks her (and actually listens) why she insists on risking her own life to protect them. (He also mentions having had a good relationship with the original inhabitants of Easter Island who built the moai statues of him, and seems willing enough to make friends with the two archaeologists and Dr. Arnada at the end of the story and share his mission with them). Indication enough that he was no simple mercenary but someone with a genuine protector instinct.
As for his treatment of the gargoyles - again, it wouldn't have hurt for him to have kept an open mind. But to return to my original point, would I have felt the same way about the guy if Goliath, Angela, and Bronx really had been an advance scouting party for the Space-Spawn? I will admit that I wouldn't. Even when Nokkar was about to execute them, he made it clear that a) he was doing this because the laws of his people forbade Sentinels to take prisoners and b) he was going to give them as merciful and painless a death as possible. (And, also to be perfectly fair to the guy, what proof did the gargoyles have to offer him that they weren't enemy aliens? To the best of my knowledge, none).
So this consideration does lead me to wonder whether we may not have done Nokkar a bit of an injustice in how we viewed his actions in "Sentinel". At any rate, I'm curious as to what your thoughts are on the matter.
Well, I like the guy. I don't know that I'd jump through the same hoops to rationalize his actions, but I like him. For us, he was like those stories of WWII soldiers on remote Pacific Islands still fighting a war that they didn't know was over. (Not that the Space-Spawn War is over.) They go a bit batty over the long, long haul. And Nokkar's had a longer haul than most. The truth is he was anxious to be doing something productive. Anything. He wanted the Gargoyles to be S-S spies. That's bad. But when he realized his error, he didn't compound it. That shows he's redeemable. Easier to redeem than most, I think.
And I agree, he did demonstrate a real concern for humans.
How many races are involved in the war between Nokkar's people and the Space Spawn?
Which of the three main races in the war is the oldest? Which one is the youngest?
Three main alien races. Plus, by 2198, humans and gargoyles at least.
Of the alien races, Nokkar's people are the oldest. The Space-Spawn is the youngest.
Just one question I've been wondering for a while
What would happen if a Gargoyle were to go into space (on a shuttle or something)? would it go into stone sleep until it came back to earth?
How old is Nokkar's race?
How old is the Space Spawn?
Which one is older?
Is there a reason why Nokkar is humanoid in appearance? I mean the chances that aliens would resemble humans is pretty slim.
Is Nokkar's very long lifespan natural? If not how does he keep himself alive?
Call it artistic license or evolutionary coincidence, whatever makes ya happy.
Are the Space-Spawn native to the Milky Way galaxy, or do they hail from a different galaxy?
One galaxy at a time, I say.
To the aliens-as-gods question; yes, other than NOkkar
Are there any planets in the Gargoyles universe which totally lack native magic sources?
In an infinite universe there are infinite possibilities.
Why haven't any fae ever gone to space before? Don't they have curiousity about what's out there?
Why haven't you gone? Aren't you curious?
Do the Space-Spawn use magic?
Do any of the 3 races in the Space-Spawn war have developed sentient AI or robots?
What weapons does Nokkar keep on his ship?
Did Nokkar assist the Easter Islanders in erecting the statues?
Does Nokkar's race use magic? What do they think of it?
No. Probably unaware of it.
1) Did any aliens visit Earth before Nokkar?
2) How is it Nokkar was unaware of Gargoyles?
3) Did Nokkar know about fae?
4) Is there any truth to the UFO sightings in the Gargoyles universe being aliens? If so, is Nokkar aware of them?
1. I don't think so.
2. Why would he be?
3. I doubt it.
4. Can't say.
A rather odd question, but it came into my head:
Did any alien visits in the past get worshipped as gods by ancient humans, much like Erich van Daniken's odd theory..
You mean other than Nokkar?
Aww, can't you give just one part of the reason why the Space-Spawn war started? Some teaser? Some little opener like Once There Were 3 Brothers? Please?
Not right now. REVAMPING...
1) Are there any faelike beings out there in space then, if such evolution on other worlds is possible?
2) Are any evolutionary processes to start such beings beginning or halfway through or in the final stages off-Earth?
3) Are any of the three races in the Space-Spawn War on similar evolutionary lines to the fae?
1. Technically, fae are earth natives. I'm not ruling out the possibility of fae-like beings in space. Anymore than I'm ruling out the possibility of humanoids in space. But you get the idea...
2. See 1.
This is probably a silly question, but are there any single entities in the universe more powerful than Mab?
Probably. No matter how big you are there's always someone bigger.
Would there have been any main individual Space-Spawn character in Gargoyles 2158?
Ask me again after the revamp is completed.
How would Avalon and/or the fae react to the Space-Spawn war of 2158?
Well, it's not in 2158 anymore. This is a fair question, but as I'm in a rethink on the whole concept at this time, you'll have to ask me again later.
What is the name of Nokkar's race?
From where do the three races of the Space-Spawn War hail from?
1) Which galaxy is each of the races' home planet/main base of operations in?
2) How far apart are each other's territories?
3) How far are their territories from Earth?
a. Out there.
1. Haven't thought about it.
Why did the Space-Spawn war start in the first place with the other two races?
That's a LONG story. This isn't the format to relate novel-length responses. (Even if my Ramblings occasionally seem to belie that.)
Did any fae ever travel to space at any period in history? Are they even capable of doing so?
Not yet. At least not that I know of.
I'm pretty sure this question was lost in the queue, and I've searched it twice, so I'll ask it again:
Did any magical faelike beings evolve on other planets, or is the whole magic-incubation thing limited to Earth?
Is there any specific reason as to why Nokkar's race stationed him at Easter Island exactly?
I doubt there was a reason they picked it, but there's a reason he's there.
When did Nokkar arrive on Earth?
Is Nokkar immortal or does he just have a long lifespan?
Long lifespan. And I have the research on that elsewhere, not here. Sorry.