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On your last remark about the Grail: you mentioned that you didn't see the Grail being taken up to Heaven along with Galahad because Heaven has no need for things. Actually, in the medieval romances where that happens, the reason why the Grail is taken away to Heaven is that humanity had become so utterly corrupt that God decided that they had become unworthy of having the Grail with them. (Although that was only a relatively late development in the story; in the early Percival versions, it does remain on Earth).
Yeah, I don't see God giving up on us quite so easily.
And I hardly believe that one age is more corrupt than another.
In the traditional Arthurian legends, King Arthur was taken away to Avalon after his last battle in a boat by three women. In the Gargoyles Universe, were these three women - ah - anybody we've already met in the series?
Lady of the Lake, Morganna Le Fay and Nimue.
(Sorry Weird Sisters fans.)
Pendragon questions:
1. Many stories give the name of the Lady of the Lake to be either Nimue or Viviane. Now, since you said that Nimue is separate from the Lady of the Lake in the Gargoyles Universe, is Viviane the Lady of the Lake or a separate person?
2. In the Gargoyles Universe, did the Lady of the Lake raise Lancelot?
3. Would you have incorporated some of the old Welsh tales of Arthur, such as the Arthur assisting his relative Kilhwch in trying to win the hand of Olwen (I ask this because one of the tasks, the raid on Caer Sidi, contains the Cauldron of Annwfn, which may be a precursor to the Grail)?
4. Would the bard Taliesin have played a role in it?
5. In your version of the story of Arthur, was Excalibur the Sword in the Stone, or was it the replacement sword he recieved from the Lady of the Lake?
1. Viviane is an alternate name to Nimue. In MOST Arthurian stories, Nimue/Viviane is a separate character from the Lady in the Lake. I've kept it that way.
2. No. Though they may have had something to do with each other.
3. Not familiar with those, but eventually, who knows? Wanted to account for everything eventually.
4. Eventually.
5. Both.
We definitely know that the Illuminati, and particularly Percival/Duval, would have been major antagonists for "Pendragon". Now that the "Arthurian survivors" contest is over, could you tell us now what other recurring antagonists you had planned for Arthur and Griff?
Nope.
(Not just cold like that.)
Besides, right now my head's kinda full up working on the 2158 revamp. Ask me later, but with more style.
I don't expect a straight foward answer on this...but judging from the fact that Camelot recieves only a half point in the clans contest, you want us to guess where Camelot is (or will be) So here's a question:
Is Camelot still in the same location it was when Arthur first ruled? Or has it moved to a new location?
Who says Camelot still exists?
This is about your mention once that King Arthur and Griff would visit the South Pole during their quest for Merlin:
1. I understand if you don't want to answer this question, but I'm a bit curious as to why they'd think of looking for Merlin in Antarctica. Back in the 5th century, nobody in Britain would have been aware of Antarctica's existence, so it would be a rather unlikely place for Merlin's Crystal Cave. Why would Arthur and Griff consider it a candidate, then?
2. Was your decision to include the South Pole on Arthur and Griff's itinerary influenced at all by the fact that Antarctica was the only continent that Goliath and Co. never visited on the Avalon World Tour?
1. Nobody in Britain? Or nobody with normal resources?
2. Not particularly.
1) If and when you get to do tose Gargoyle Episodes and Spinoffs do you plan to do crossovers like the following:
Gargoyles: 2158/Timedancer
Dark Ages/Timedancer
Pendragon/Bad Guys
2) Would you still include the Previously On Gargoyles segments when necessary?
1. 2158(revised) and TimeDancer, definitely.
Dark Ages and TimeDancer, probably.
Pendragon/Bad Guys. Probably, eventually.
Pendragon/Gargoyles. Definitely.
Bad Guys/Gargoyles. Definitely.
New Olympians/Gargoyles. Definitely.
New Olympians/Pendragon/Bad Guys - Eventually.
2. Probably.
In your proposed spinoff PENDRAGON, how did you plan to address the Arthur-Gwenyvere-Launcelot love triangle? I doubt you would have completely overlooked it, but some versions of the Arthurian legends say Launcelot and Gwenyvere had an affair, but it would be difficult to present it in a children's show and get it past S&P. How would you ahve approached it, if you were going to approach it at all?
Well, it wouldn't be a big current issue, since both Lance and Gwen are long dead. But I believe we could have handled it in passing in a straight-forward way. It's such a classic part of Western Culture. It's less problematic than you think. I mean we don't have to SAY that they had sex. Which is not to say they didn't. We simply show them kissing, for example, and we get the idea of betrayal across without doing anything too controversial. Look how we handled the Constantine/Finella/Kenneth triangle.
One little Arthurian note about your theory that the grave at Glastonbury really contained the bodies of Lancelot and Guinevere rather than Arthur and Guinevere. I noticed that Roger Lancelyn Green went for the same notion himself. (And it's not a bad way of explaining the grave, either, once you a) recall that Lancelot turned monk at Glastonbury after Arthur's passing and so was in the area in his final days, and b) go for the notion of Avalon being a faerie island - as it's portrayed in "Gargoyles" - rather than just an old-fashioned name for Glastonbury).
Yep.
You and me should start a R.L. Green fan club.
A comment about your revelation today that Blanchefleur would have been the female companion to Arthur and Griff.
That one, in fact, I'd suspected for some time now (and can share my thoughts with you on how I worked it out after you made the revelation); in fact, that was precisely what led me to suspect Blanchefleur as one of the 8 Arthurian survivors. I'd been wondering who the female companion would be for some time. Now, you'd mentioned that you decided against sending the Magus to accompany Arthur on his adventures in the outside world since that would mean either:
a) they never find Merlin (a let-down)
b) the Magus dies before Arthur finds Merlin (which puts a higher value on Merlin than on the Magus)
c) Arthur has two magic-users accompanying him (not very challenging, in such a case)
From this I figured out that Arthur's female companion could not be a magic-user either. So that ruled out nearly every female character from the legend whom I could imagine as a survivor, since most of them (such as Morgan le Fay) were magic-users. But a female character connected with the Grail could survive to modern times without the use of magic. And as for who that female character was - well, you'd mentioned Roger Lancelyn Green among the Arthurian writers whom you'd read, and Blanchefleur turns up in his version as Percival's queen; thus you'd be aware of her.
So that's how I arrived at my suspicion that Blanchefleur would be Arthur and Griff's female companion, and it seems now that I was correct. Guess that I've got more than a little detective in me.
Very good. You are dead on.
But you approached it in reverse. I came up with the survivors first. Blanchefleur (translated into the twentieth or twenty-first century) interested me, and I wanted a female in the group.
The whole Magus/Merlin dilemma came later.
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