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Hello, Mr. Weisman. I was curious about Gargoyle twins, but I don't have any questions on the subject as much as I do have some rambles. Please keep in mind I am no expert on biology and I may be completely off. Having said that, here are my thoughts on twins.
I did a little research on egg twins -- double yolked eggs -- and thought it could _possibly_ be attributed to gargoyles. A twin yolked egg occurs when (for example) a chicken's ovary will make two yolks at once. The shell is formed over both yolks, and results in a longer, larger egg being laid. With chickens, twin chicks hatching is almost non-existent. Eggs must be turned so that the chick's head can reach the air cell to breath while inside the egg. Then it will peck it's way out if all goes as planned. In the case of twins, they fight each other inside the egg, fail to reach the air cell and suffocate. Human intervention can result in both chicks surviving (the egg is opened for the chicks) but, yet again, it's rare.
Okay, I know Gargoyles are _not_ chickens, but it still got me to thinking. IF a female gargoyle did lay a twin yolked egg, it would stand out as being a bit bigger than the other eggs. Surely the soon-to-be parents would notice this and probably deduce what the larger egg meant. I believe you said that gargoyle parents do not aid the hatchlings to break out their shells, but MAYBE an exception could possibly be made for the unhatched twins since such a phenomenon doesn't happen often anyway. IF the developing babies survived to the point of hatching and IF they either a) somehow managed to successfully escape their egg themselves, or b) had adult intervention, you would be left with fraternal twin gargoyle hatchlings, not identical twins. In theory, this could also further support the idea that no two gargoyles look exactly alike.
Oof, sorry if I am making no sense. I never was good at being succinct, but I suppose that's why they are called 'rambles'. Anyway, these are just some ideas on the subject and I thought you might like to hear them. :) Of course please feel free to disregard anything I've said. I am not out to "trip you up" or tell you what is what in the world you created.
On another note, I just wanted to say that Gargoyles is a wonderful, thought provoking universe with deep, multiple layered characters and absolutely terrific stories! I am deeply sorry that I will not be able to attend the final Gathering (you have no idea how sorry!!) but I'm still glad to have been given the chance to experience the world of Gargoyles. Thank you so much for sharing them with us!
I'd think Gargoyles twins would be exceedingly rare. (At best.)
Hey Greg! Quick question, though I'm not sure if you can answer it (you might be able to though): Since the Connors left for Florida, what's the news on Electro's cure? Is Curt still working on it or did he pass the job onto Miles?
Curt's still working on it. I don't think he'd trust anything with Miles.
Hey Greg how are you? Anyway I think if there is a petition started that maybe Disney will consider releasing the rest of the Gargoyle Series.http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/gargoylesseason2volume2todvd/
This is the website I found on line that already has 315 signatures. The goal is 100,000. Do you think if that goal is meant that Disney would consider releaseing it?
Hey Greg, thanks again for answering my questions. But I'm afraid I need to ask again in regards to this one: http://s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=11500 (the one about "switching" voice actors.)
You didn't answer my question. You evaded it with another question, didn't you? :P Considering today's voice acting market, which now has a lot of great actors and is becoming saturated, there is always a chance that at least one or two of the actors involved with the original Gargoyles show may not be able to join it. I ask again, if you have any alternatives in mind (of course the original actors are better :D, this is a just in case), what would they be? Just mention one or two examples if you're comfortable with it.
I have NO alternative actors in mind, and I ask YOU AGAIN, why would I? Your explanation for the need for this train of thought seems specious to me. I wasn't EVADING your question, I was pointing out -- as nicely as I could (though I'm less inclined the second time out) -- that your question was, frankly, silly.
It is always possible that old actors might not be available, but why would I ever consider alternatives until circumstances REQUIRED it?
Perhaps you think that your question itself will auto-generate all sorts of hypothetical thoughts on this subject on my part, but it doesn't. I'm uninterested.
Are there currently any plans of making a live action adaptation of The Gargoyles? Has Greg ever considered taking the Gargoyles show in that direction? In his personal opinion what actors does he think would be good matches for Eliza and David Xanotos?
Please see the archives. It's all there.
So, I noticed someone asked about why included Emily and that made me thinking: Why did you include Joan Jameson? Is it just because you weren't taking the "My wife was killed by someone in a mask, so now I hate people in masks" angle on JJJ or is there another reason?
I definitely wasn't taking that approach. But it had more to do with the effect having a wife has on JJ's character. I think the effect is demonstrable, so I won't comment further.
In Clan Building Issue 4 (or 5, don't have my issues at hand) there is a scene of all sorts of people in the Labyrinth. The scene reminds me a lot of Issue 2 of Bad Guys where Anton/"Fred" is greeting people and Erin and Benny are running around.
In CB 4, are the kids running around Erin and Benny also, or just another pair of kids?
Sure, why not?
this is a random question but you said daredevil doesnt exist yet...i understand punishers family not being dead, and the fantastic four only dealing with cosmic things or whatever, and tony not doing his demonstration and all of that but how doesn't DD exist yet, he was around the exact same time spidey was in the comics, i just wanted to get your excuse.
anyway great shows, loved gargoyles and love spectacular spiderman, and the episodes you were involved in the batman were great too:)
It's not an "excuse." Frankly, you haven't done your homework.
Daredevil #1 appeared in 1964, two years after Spider-Man's debut. If you're asking me if Matt Murdock exists, than of course the answer is yes. But he hasn't put on a costume yet.
In contrast, the FF pre-date Spidey, premiering in 1961. Spidey premiered in 1962. Iron Man (for example) in '63. Daredevil not until '64.
So in OUR continuity, Spidey first appeared in public (at the Venue) in May or June of Peter's sophomore year. Our two seasons take place between September and March of his Junior Year. So the FF are around already, fighting COSMIC BIG BADS. (They probably made their debut in November of Pete's sophomore year.) But guys like Iron Man, Thor and Daredevil have yet to debut.
Hello Mr. Weisman, (I like the first name! ^_-)
First, I'd like to congratulate you on doing an truly spectacular job with the Spectacular Spider-Man and am crossing my fingers for seasons 3, 4 and 5! Having said that, I do have some questions. Some Spidey spoilers below!
1. I heard that you originally wanted to use Kingpin for the role served by Tombstone. If you had been allowed to use Kingpin from the beginning, would you have found a way to use Tombstone in a different capacity and if so, what?
2. I was most curious at those who were chosen to give interviews. I practiculary noticed the touch on Norman's face, who immediately answers "No", but you can clearly see a little bit of curiousity has been pipqued in his mind.... foreshadowing? Heh. I noticed though that due to time restraints, not everybody could get an interview. Was it planned for Mary Jane, Sally, Randy or anybody who wasn't asked in the episode that were cut for time?
3. Somebody said to me that Norman is lot like Xanatos from Gargoyles. Did you base this version of Norman off of Xanatos in some way?
Thanks for your time and keep up the good work!
1. Probably, but we never got that far in our plans for him, since we learned early on we couldn't use Kingpin.
3. I've answered this before. Check out this IGN interview: http://tv.ign.com/articles/103/1034739p2.html
IGN: Another reader email here from C.R., who writes,
"Was the Incarnation of Norman Osborn in this show inspired by David Xanatos from Gargoyles? He seems very similar to him. He even has an Owen Burnett like assistant! Was this intentional of you?"
Weisman: Well, I can see why people feel that way. He's not the first person to bring that up and I get it and god knows Xanatos is so in my head that there's some influence there. But the truth is that Osborn predates Xanatos. I was reading Norman Osborn in comics long before Xanatos was a glimmer in my eye, so to speak. Even the thing about having an assistantâ¦ Osborn had that assistant in the comics. I didn't come up with him and stick him in. Donald Menken played that exact role in the comics â" one in fact might argue that Owen was slightly influenced by Menken, although I don't actually think that was true, because Menken was pretty obscure. But when I went back and re-read the Spider-Man comics, after I got this gig, Menken was there.
And as for how similar Osborn and Xanatos are, I think the similarities are somewhat surface. Yes, they're both incredibly wealthy, incredibly smart businessmen. But I think of Xanatos as being amoral and I think of Osborn as being immoral. And I think there's a big difference in that. Xanatos has said revenge is a sucker's game. I think Osborn kind of likes the revenge idea. Osborn is a really, really crappy father. And I think David is actually a really loving father. He's got lots of flaws, and I'm not saying some of those flaws won't impact how he raises his son, but David is going to do his damndest to raise that boy in an environment that's loving and warm and supportive, and it's obvious that's not Norman's point of view on things. Norman refuses to apologize or take responsibility for anything at all, and David's not like that either.
It makes it sound like I think David's great and Norman's awful, and that's not how I feel at all. I think they're both great characters, but I do think that in real, fundamental ways, they are very different personalities. What they have in common is they're both very, very smart.
In "The Uncertainty Principle" when the Green Goblin steals the Inhibitor prototype, there is a man with orange hair standing next to "Norman Osborn." Is that Donald Menken? Also, in Blueprints, there is a Chinese girl who looks like Sha Shan talking to Gwen and Mary Jane right before Pete arrives. Is that Sha Shan?
Yes, that's Menken and Sha Shan.