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Dexter writes...
Hey, wussup? It's that really anoying punk again. So Lara Croft once appeared in a music video for some english band, think Angela could be in one of my band's music videos? Or does her contract with Disney rule that kinda stuff out? That'd be sweet if she could....i should call her...dammit!too bad i don't have her number
Greg responds...
Uh, ask her Uncle Walt for his blessing and see how far you get. Maybe if you have her home by ten?
Mel. Celestial writes...
HiIIII!!!!!
1. Okay, so G&E's relationship is the only bridge, and Clan Manhattan didn't mind it at all; how do the other clans around the world might approve of it ?
2. That priceless look on Hudson's face(The Awakening eps.3), what was he thinking about those two(G&E, of course!), and did he find it appaling at first?
Greg responds...
1. Is this a reference to a previous response? If so, I've forgotten what we were talking about.
2. I'd say he was initially non-plussed. But I think he thought it healthy that Goliath was at least making a connection to a human.
matt writes...
if i asked Goliath, "What is the best thing about being a gargoyle?" what do you think (or know) he'd say?
Greg responds...
Something along the lines of "You are asking me to define all that I am in but a few words. I haven't the eloquence for the task."
Siren writes...
I didn;t see this in the archieves and was just curious...
In Eye of the Beholder, whose idea was it to dress Elisa as Belle from Beauty and the Beast. It just seemed too perfect and at such a good time in the 1st season to do so.
Also a slightly related question...Where did Goliath learn how to ballroom dance? Demona just doesn't seem the type to have done so before 998AD ;)
Greg responds...
That was my idea, I believe.
And Goliath didn't really need to know how to "ballroom dance". He just needed to be strong enough to hold Elisa and move to the music. It wasn't a contest.
Todd Jensen writes...
Wow! A new episode ramble! Well, here's my thoughts on "City of Stone Part Three".
I get a chuckle out of the "I never watch television" scene - although I've occasionally thought that the lady must have been reading the script to know that watching Demona's broadcast was what turned everyone to stone :) (Then again, maybe it isn't such a hard connection to make).
Yes, I'd noted that Lulach's name got spelled wrong (I was aware of the original Lulach of history before "City of Stone" came out); thanks for explaining about how that happened.
I mentioned in my ramble on Part Two that the Duncan of "City of Stone" felt a lot closer to the Shakespearean Macbeth than the Macbeth of "City of Stone" did, and the Weird Sisters scene brings it home all the more. They do their "toil and trouble" scene, as per the play (which delighted me from the very first time that I saw the episode) - but note here the twist from Shakespeare. In Shakespeare, the Weird Sisters' words inspire Macbeth to move against Duncan. In "City of Stone", they inspire Duncan to move against Macbeth, instead. (And it says a lot about Duncan that he should completely forget that Macbeth just saved his life a few minutes before, simply because of the words of three old crones).
The scene where the Sisters transfer Demona and Macbeth's ages is a very effective one (although I don't know if I'd gotten the full story there until Part Four came along). So also is the battle scene, including Duncan's fiery end. (Again, I wasn't too surprised by the basic manner in which Macbeth overthrew Duncan; I'd already read that he did overthrow Duncan in actual history - and that it was in 1040, so I was expecting that incident the moment that the "1040" caption appeared on the screen. I'd also read that Shakespeare seems to have borrowed the more familiar murder story from Holinshed's account of the murder of a certain King Duff - apparently the same Duff who appeared in your "Once Upon a Time There Were Three Brothers" story as Kenneth II and Prince Malcolm's older brother. Although that Duff's final days reminded me more of Uther Pendragon's, in his going into his final battle in a litter - but I digress).
A couple of thoughts about Demona at the coronation that really stand out to me. First off, when Demona comments that she'd rather that humans feared gargoyles than respected them, I can't help but think that it shows how Demona doesn't always reason things out. For humans do fear gargoyles - and that's what causes the problem. Humans hunt and destroy gargoyles because they're afraid of them. So I don't think that it's clear thinking on Demona's part to desire that her race be feared.
The other part is the astonished, then delighted look upon Demona's face when the humans in the great hall actually cheer her. Another one of those almost sad moments, in that she's given an opportunity to see what it can be like to be loved by humans instead of feared - and seventeen years later, she'll reject it. A moment equal to her brief "What have I done?" moment in 994, before she changed it to "What have they done?"
I very much liked the Weird Sisters' little lurkings in the background throughout (and caught their policewoman role at once).
Oh, and I like the title "City of Stone". True, it indeed does ignore the flashbacks that are so crucial, but it sounds good. I didn't even notice that trait when I watched the multi-parter.
But perhaps the most intriguing part of "City of Stone" remains this: how many animated adventure series would dare air a story that spends so much of its time in medieval Scotland, as opposed to a more high-tech setting (whether modern-day or futuristic), exploring actual events in early Scottish history? "Gargoyles" was definitely unique in that regard.
I'm looking forward to the "Part Four" ramble.
Greg responds...
And I'm looking forward to your response to that ramble.
City of Stone was obviously a momentous undertaking for us. In more ways then one. I was glad they let us do it at all. Impressed that they let us do it. And of course, I think it really is THE set of episodes that brings an EPIC flavor to the rest of the series. Sure the Pilot is big. But then we seemed to settle down. Now our scope has expanded in multiple directions at once. Avalon and the World Tour will do the same thing. But by then it's almost expected. I think City is more of a revelation. (When watched in order and for the first time.)
Prepping Production
The first season of Gargoyles was largely pre-produced in Japan. And our Japanese Studio was very involved in getting the show up on its feet. This is a memo from Lenora Hume, who was at the time the head of International Production for our division. The memo is addressed to Mr. Tokunaga who was the head of Walt Disney Television Animation Japan.
WALT DISNEY Television Memorandum
To: Motoyoshi Tokunaga Date: July 2,1993
From: Lenora Hume Extension: (818) 754-7150
Subject: FAX: 011-8142-251-8229
PAGE: -1- of -1-
As a follow up to our conversation, we would like to proceed to do some preliminary development work on Gargoyles as outlined below.
1) We would like you to send us some design and storyboards samples of the artists you intend to use on this project. If you have any tapes of shows that these individuals have been involved in that would be very helpful as well.
2) On Tuesday, we will fax your descriptions of the characters we would like you to work on.
3) Based on the information we send you on Tuesday, we would like budget on a schedule prepared for this preliminary design work.
At this stage we would like to see rough drawings of a variety of styles and ideas based on the information we have supplied. There is no need to edit your preliminary work. We would like to see a number if different approaches. If you have a preference as to which approach you prefer please by all means let us know your choices.
4) Once this preliminary design work has been submitted we will review the materials in Los Angeles and give you our comments, along with instructions as to what the next phase will be.
If you have any questions or comments about this first phase of development, please feel free to contact us.
Best regards,
Lenora Hume
cc: B. Cranston
G. Weisman
P. Lacey
RECEIVED BY
JUL 06 1993
GREG WEISMAN'S OFFICE
Evidentally, I went out of town in late June / early July of 1993. My very capable and talented Development Associate Paul Lacy was holding down the fort.
Walt Disney TV Animation Japan had been asking for a more creative role in the division. Gargoyles would represent a new opportunity for them. (Something that I believe Roy Sato could comment on more directly.) Paul wrote up some character descriptions for Goliath and the Trio to get them started. This document, as far as I can tell, is the first one in which Brooklyn and Lex were assigned the basic personalities that they'd wind up with. Previous to this, the two characters had always been assigned each others traits. So I think we can credit Paul (or his confusion, at least) with giving us the Brooklyn and Lex we now know and love.
Also by this time, we had moved away from a female Broadway. One of my bosses, Bruce Cranston, still raised the suggestion that we go back. But I believe my other boss, Gary Krisel (and Kenner) wanted as many males in the group as possible.
July 2, 1993
Greg,
Gary wants to give Tokunaga, the head of the Disney Studio in Japan, a shot at showing us what they can do design-wise with the GARGOYLES, so he wants us to send them descriptions of GOLIATH, BROOKLYN, LEXINGTON and BROADWAY. The descriptions need to be brief and put in general terms to allow them room to be creative.
I've enclosed my pass at these descriptions for your changes. Although I remember the "types" we were thinking of for Brooklyn, Lexington and Broadway, I don't remember who was assigned which attribute. Bruce asked about making one of the kids a female, should we open that up to the Japanese as an option?
Gary and Bruce looked at these today and I incorporated their changes. We need to get these to Lenora Hume early Tuesday so she can fax them to Japan.
Hope you had a great trip. See you on Tuesday.
Paul
And here's Paul's memo to the Japanese Studio.
GARGOYLE DESCRIPTIONS (Lacy 7/2/93)
Below are general descriptions of the look and feel of GOLIATH and the three teen-aged Gargoyles, BROOKLYN, LEXINGTON and BROADWAY.
GOLIATH
The Gargoyle-master. Physically imposing, muscular. At least a head taller than an average human. Weighing approximately 500 pounds, Goliath is solidly built. Although he possesses many human-like features, Goliath's gargoyle features set him apart from man. When angered he resembles a raging beast. When relaxed there is a gentle nobility to his appearance ... in a strange, rugged way, he's handsome. Goliath's wings enable him to glide and, as such, must be big enough to support his weight. They are not simply attached to his back. Rather, they are an integral part of his skeletal and muscular structure, as organic to him as arms and legs are to humans. When sitting, Goliath's wings drape around him like a cape. When spread wide, they act as a backdrop that frames his body.
BROOKLYN, LEXINGTON AND BROADWAY
As adolescent gargoyles, they're awkward and not as physically developed as Goliath. To a human, however, they're still imposing and beastly. Although the three are part of the same species, each one is physically different enough to establish their individuality.
BROOKLYN: If there's a leader of the group, it's Brooklyn. He's the most physically fit of the group and is the one who most aspires to be a gargoyle warrior like Goliath. In the modern world Brooklyn wants to be "cool" and stylish, following all the current trends.
LEXINGTON: The smallest of the group. He's not as muscular as his pals, though he still is powerful. Lexington natural resting position is more a squat than the other two. Lexington is fascinated by gadgets: in medieval times it's catapults and siege engines. In modern times it's airplanes, traffic lights, video games, etc.
BROADWAY: The chubby one, Broadway's also bigger than the other two. Despite his fat, he has well defined muscles like the other gargoyles. Broadway is happy go-lucky, always looking for a good time.
Some of different wing types for these three characters include sprung from the back (like Goliath) for gliding, attached to the back but too small to be of any use, draped from the arm (like a bat), or non-existent.
James L writes...
2198 Contest
74: intellect
Sorry, forgot my name!
Greg responds...
That's better. But you're still wrong.
Graymonk writes...
Gargoyles 2198 Contest
519 - parameters
Greg responds...
Too slow. Phil got this one yesterday. Sorry.
Patricia writes...
2198 Contest
517: overtook
519: procedures
Greg responds...
nope
Patricia writes...
2198 Contest
74: territory
Greg responds...
nope
Anonymous writes...
2198 CONTEST
74: intellect
Greg responds...
nope
Hey, an anonymous contest entry! YIKES!
To the moon, Todd!
Siren writes...
1. Does the clan ever give Bronx a bath?
2. Does he smell like a dog after a while?
Greg responds...
1. Sure.
2. Why would he?
Patricia writes...
My fave S-A Response :) :
Faieq writes...
In the Gargoyles Universe, how much truth is there in fortune cookies?
Greg responds...
All cookies are true. Especially Peanut Butter cookies.
(This is my favorite question this month.)
Greg responds...
Yeah. That still makes me smile.
But i got lucky there. It was a good set-up.
Siren writes...
Well, first off, Smart Ass answers are my favorite...But I can't pick one, so here are just a few of my favs.
Airwalker writes...
In the 'ONCE UPON A TIME...' segments you've done, we've seen why Malcolm would need to ally himself with a Gargoyle clan. But why would Hudson want
to ally himself with Malcolm?
Greg responds...
Patience, grasshopper...
Scott Iskow writes...
That last question of mine got me thinking...
Are there flying pigs in the Gargoyles Universe?
(Believe it or not, that's actually a serious question. Go fig.)
Greg responds...
I've got the bacon, do you have the catapult?
ndrew writes...
In the episode the gathering (part 2) what did titania whisper to fox at the end of the episode. I have been wondering this for a long time.
Greg responds...
You and what army?
Oh, yeah. That army. <WAVES> "Hi, guys!"
Heidi Doeing writes...
I don't think, despite your multiple attempts to evade the question, that anyone will stop until the real answer is given:
What did Anastacia whisper to Fox?
( ;) just thought I'd try again)
Greg responds...
You misspelled Anastasia.
Greg responds...
Yeah, those are pretty fun. Particularly the middle two.
The last one's a bit feeble.
And the first is just a famous reference.
Siren writes...
Hey Greg, a while back, I asked you "Which came first? The gargoyle or the egg?". And you replied, "I did."...So which came after you?
Greg responds...
All the lovely folk at Walt Disney TV Animation.
(Most of whom were hatched.)
Breath of Mystery writes...
Okay, I noticed this question has been circulating around the archives for a while. About what, if anything, was whispered to Fox by Titania in "The GatheringII." Due to the amount of smarty-pants responses you've been dealing out, I wanted to return the favor. So, my question is: Did Titania say "I will eat your heart" to Fox? And Yes, I know I am setting myself up to be brutally shot down, but hey. I was just wondering. Hav fun!
Greg responds...
I don't get it.
Duncan Devlin writes...
My favorite smart-ass response was your answer to the question:
"Which came first, the gargoyle or the egg?"
Your answer: "I DID"
I even drew up a little comic around it in the New Yorker Magazine style.
Greg responds...
Cool. Can you post a link?
Jim R. writes...
3 questions directed towards you:
Will you ever write a book? Maybe an autobiography or production series telling about what you've accomplished?
If you should ever be asked to tell about yourself on the A&E show, "Biography", would you?
Greg responds...
1. I'm writing a book now. Don't know if it'll ever get published.
2. That's less likely. I have no interest in writing an autobiography. The latter sounds interesting, but for something like that, I'd want a publisher interested in advance.
3. Sure. I'm holding my breath.
matt writes...
when Goliath and Hudson return to Wyvern after the massacre is it me or did Hudson seem to take the whole thing pretty well all things considered? while Goliath goes into an uncontrollable but understandable rage, Hudson just makes some remarks about betrayal and bow strings having been cut. i don't want to say that Hudson had more reason to be upset than Goliath, but Hudson did have several generations of rookery children murdered and many friends that he has known most his life killed in the massacre, he doesn't scream in rage like Goliath or cry in sadness. did his long life in this "world of fear" and the death of his mate better prepare him for the death of his people than Goliath? Hudson just seemed really mellow about the massacre...
Greg responds...
For starters, I think he was in shock. But we all handle tragedy differently. He fell back on his training.
And it's certainly possible that past tragedies may have better prepared him.
But I hardly think his response was "mellow".
matt writes...
Greg, about what Titania whispered to Fox: you know what she said, right? so if we just started asking you "Did Titania say:......." it wouldn't be considered submiting ideas, right?
Greg responds...
Yes. It would.
The fact that I know already, changes nothing. I can't prove that I know already.
And if one of you should guess right, than that person could get pissed if he or she thinks I stole the line.
Fire Storm writes...
On 02-01-2001, you anwsered a question by Anonymous.
He/She wrote: How long is a female gargoyles' gestation period?
You replied: Didn't I answer this already? Check the Gargoyle Science archive.
I checked the Science archive, and then the entire archive, and the closest you have said is "6 months to a year".
So I pose these questions to you:
Have you refined your anwser to this question?
If so, how long is the gestation period for gargoyle females? (The time span the female gargoyle carrys the egg before laying it, for those non-scientifically inclined people reading this.)
And, when gargoyle females do end up laying their eggs, do they lay them on the same night or just generally around the same time?
See you at G2K+1!
Greg responds...
About six months is as refined as I've got it.
And the laying takes place within a span of a couple nights.
Shavri writes...
1. When gargoyles are hatched, do they have any teeth? I would hope they didn't have teeth, because if the females breast-fed the hatchlings, I'm sure it wouldn't have been a very pleasant ritual to have gone through if the little ones did. OUCH times 10!! And wouldn't it have been a bit difficult for the hatchlings with beaks to breast-feed?
2. How helpless are hatchlings when they're first born? Are they almost as helpless as human babies? What is the average age a gargoyle hatchling learns to walk; also, to glide? Oh, and at about what age do hatchlings learn to talk?
Greg responds...
1. Not sure. Not sure that there's consistency. Maybe no front teeth?
2. Almost but not quite. They can support their own heads for example. Walking on all fours comes fast. Walking upright takes much longer. Gliding can sometimes come before or after upright walking. Unfortunately, despite the fact that I have two kids of my own, I don't even remember or know enough about human development to give hard numbers I have confidence in.
matt writes...
why did Xanatos name his skyscraper the "Eyrie Building"?
Greg responds...
Step 1.
Look up "Eyrie" in the dictionary.
Step 2.
If you still need the answer come back with proof of step 1, i.e. the definition.
matt writes...
since Burbank (Hudson's clone) was artificially aged to his prime wouldn't he be able to have children with another female garg? i'm really beginning to see why the clan was so wierded out by the clones...
Greg responds...
Yes.
Jim R. writes...
I am curious. You were an "executive producer" for Gargoyles, right? What does an executive producer do for an animated series? Did you work on any of the artwork? Any of the storyline? The voice actors?
What is it that an executive producer does? In a nutshell, of course, I know you're busy...
Greg responds...
Haven't I answered this a hundred times?
No. In those days, Disney TV Animation did not give out "Executive Producer" credits. I started as a "Co-Producer". Then became a "Producer". Then "Supervising Producer". Through all these title changes, my duties never changed. [Which is to say, that a title doesn't necessarily give a consistent read on an individuals responsibilities or efforts. So I can't speak for all Executive or even Supervising Producers. I can just tell you what I did.]
I came up with all 66 story springboards and supervised the writing staff. Though I didn't have the title, since my producer credit rendered it redundant, I was the Supervising Story Editor for the series. I personally wrote and story edited "The Journey". Though I did not produce the Goliath Chronicles episodes, including Journey.
I also supervised all recording sessions with the actors. I voice directed one episode (VENDETTAS).
I don't draw, but I did give notes and approvals on all designs and storyboards. I also supervised post-production. Called retakes, supervised final edits, mixes, on-lines, etc.
I didn't do any of this stuff alone. But along with Frank Paur, I was the final word on everything.
Justin writes...
Quick question,
You have mentioned that not all of the currently existing clans have names. So by the time of The Journey, how many of the clans have names? ( Not including London, Manhattan, Labyrinth, Ishimura, Avalon and Guatemala.) And which ones?
Greg responds...
Huh? I'm not sure what you mean by names?
1. The London Clan. London, England.
2. The Ishimura Clan. Ishimura, Japan.
3. The Mayan Clan. ChacIxChel, Guatemala.
4. The Korea Clan. Pukhan, Korea.
5. The Xanadu Clan. Xanadu, China.
6. The Loch Ness Clan. Loch Ness, Scotland.
7. The New Olympian Clan. Mount Thanatos, New Olympus.
8. The Avalon Clan. Oberon's Palace, Avalon.
9. The Manhattan Clan. New York, U.S.A.
10. The Labyrinth Clan. New York, U.S.A.
Justin writes...
Greg,
You have mentioned that there is a clan in Korea.
1)Where in Korea is this clan located?
2)Who is the leader of the clan?
3) Have they had a massacre recently? Or do the Koreans in the area even know they exist?
4) In 1998 did the clan have a rookery?
5) Will any Korean gargs play a part in future story lines?
6) Of the 12 Existing clans; how many is the Illuminati aware of?
Thanks
Greg responds...
1. Pukhan, Korea. This clan lives in tunnels and caves that run through the mountains along the Pukhan River.
2. Don't know yet.
3. No full-scale massacre, if that's what you mean.
3a. There are legends.
4. Yes.
5. Yes.
6. In 2001, there are not 12 existing clans. There are 10, including Avalon, Manhattan and the Labyrinth. And the Illuminati probably know about fewer than you think.
Duncan Devlin writes...
Was the name Demona derived more from it's relationship to the word demon or or from the name Desdemona in Shakespeare's Othello (or was it a mix). Basically, which came first to the idea board. (I think I'm open for a smart-ass response as well as a real one.)
Greg responds...
I don't have a smart ass response to this. Demona came from Demon. Desdemona (and the obvious aural connection to Demona) was a pleasant "surprise" that came later when we were working on Coldstone. Now if you're asking whether or not, somewhere in the back of my head, the Desdemona name was floating around and had an influence... well, I can't be sure.
Dexter writes...
Hey man, I'm back. Dude, so let's say I asked Angela out on a date, and she said yes...
1) What kind of flowers should I bring her? Or would she prefer something more original like...a basket of nectorines or something?
2) what's her favorite color? That's always good to know about a woman.
3) Does she like punk rock? Hey it could be very likely! I mean, after all she did come to New York! I'm sure she's determined to get 'cultured' in her new world, so what style of music do you think she likes? Hey, there's an idea, I could write her a song...that's more personal then flowers. Heh heh, that gargoyle is so cool. When we go out, I'll even whip out my flashy Cheetah Bondage pants for her...I only wear them on very special occasions don't ya know.
You probably think i'm a psycho, huh? Yeah I know, it's a hard truth. I seriously painted her on a wall in my room though. It's pretty sweet! But ya know what Greg, now you have my pathetic posts and questions to look forward too every time you come on to reply! Besides, I've been through the archives, and as you know, there are people here who have way more issues then I do! Later Dude!
Greg responds...
1. I'm not big on hypotheticals. I like nectarines though.
2. I'm color blind. Maybe green, like her BOYFRIEND, Broadway.
3. I think most of Punk Rock would initially be a wall of sound that she couldn't relate to. However, it's certainly possible that if one really good song got through, it might give her the patience to relate to the rest of the genre.
Jim R. writes...
Will King Arthur ever find Gwenivere if he finds Merlin?
Greg responds...
What era are we talking about?
VF writes...
517: upgraded
Greg responds...
nope
VF writes...
74: diversity
Greg responds...
no
VF writes...
519: technology
Greg responds...
no
VF writes...
517: modified
Greg responds...
nope
VF writes...
519: directives
Greg responds...
nope
Phil writes...
G2198 Contest
519: parameters
Greg responds...
That's one more point for Phil. Congratulations.
Only two blanks left to fill: 74 & 517.
Adam writes...
2198 CONTEST
517: acquired
Greg responds...
nope
Adam writes...
2198 CONTEST
519: capability
Couldn't believe no one had guessed this one yet.
Greg responds...
nope.
Adam writes...
2198 CONTEST
517: employed
Oops, wrong number on that last one.
Greg responds...
nope
Adam writes...
2198 CONTEST
519: employed
Greg responds...
nope
Adam writes...
2198 CONTEST
519: capacities
This is a good one. Could be right.
Greg responds...
nope
Adam writes...
2198 CONTEST
517: resolved
Greg responds...
no
Adam writes...
2198 CONTEST
517: observed
Greg responds...
nope
Adam writes...
2198 CONTEST
517: imitated
Greg responds...
nope
Adam writes...
2198 CONTEST
517: degraded
Greg responds...
nope
Adam writes...
2198 CONTEST
519: businesses
Greg responds...
nope
Adam writes...
2198 CONTEST
519: procedures
<i>Three more to go!</i>
Greg responds...
nope.
Chris Maune writes...
519: Perogative
Greg responds...
nope But please try again.
matt writes...
hey Sapphire, great questions, but couldn't you have grouped the ones of homosexuality together, geeez...
in 1996, in the garg universe, what is everyone's view on homosexuality?
hehehe, sorry for picking on you, Sapphire :)
Greg responds...
Diverse.
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