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LSZ writes...
Which is more intelligent, roughly: Talos, Coyote or the Golem?
Greg responds...
Talos.
Wait, which Coyote?
LSZ writes...
Is Proteus the only shapeshifter on New Olympus?
Greg responds...
Probably not.
Jeff N. writes...
Hey there Mr. Weisman,
In an answer to an earlier question about the origins of the New Olympians, you said that the first New Olympians were the result of various fae-mortal unions, and I was just wondering if, in the Gargoyles Universe, all of the original 12 Olympians from Greek mythology would be classified as full-fledged members of the Third Race (i.e. Oberon's Children)?
Thank you and good luck on resurrecting Gargoyles.
Greg responds...
Not necessarily.
LSZ writes...
Would any of the major characters in NEW OLYMPIANS be one of the NO Gargoyles?
Greg responds...
No.
LSZ writes...
1) Do fae grow weaker magically as they grow older?
2) Is there any limit to how powerful a fae can grow unaided by any magical artefacts?
3) How seriously can fae be hurt by human magic?
4) If gargoyles could develop their own sorcery, would the magic they utilise be identical to human magic?
5) Did the Zeroth/Lost Race use magic?
6) Do the New Olympians use magic these days?
Greg responds...
1. Generally, no.
2. Probably.
3. Seriously.
4. Identical? Garg sorcery + human sorcery = mortal sorcery.
5. Zeroth? Who's that?
6. Rarely.
Sapphire writes...
In the episode The New Olympians Taurus once said to Helios
that he will be out of a job if he didn't do what he was told. Is there such things as poverty and unemployment in New Olympian society like there is today?
Greg responds...
Probably. Unemployment certainly. Relative wealth certainly. I'm not sure poverty is permitted though.
LSZ writes...
1) What religions are there on New Olympus?
2) How many?
3) What is the nature of the more popular religions?
4) Is/are there any organised priesthoods?
5) If so, how much influence do they possess on New Olympian society?
6) Do any of them worship their fae ancestors?
Greg responds...
1. Many.
2. Many.
3. Pantheistic, Monotheistic, and everything in between.
4. Sure.
5. Some.
6. Yes.
Todd Jensen writes...
Oh, one little bit about my question regarding Xanatos in "The New Olympians". I, of course, knew that "Xavier" was merely a "rejected first-draft" name for our favorite scheming billionaire and did not actually exist in the Gargoyles Universe. Rather, I mentioned it because somebody who'd been to your "New Olympians" speech at one of the Gatherings had told me that there would have been a Xanatos-style character named Xavier in it; I may have misunderstood him.
Greg responds...
You did. Or he misunderstood me. XANATOS himself is in the New Olympian pitch. We came up for the idea for New Olympians before Gargoyles. But we brought it back out DURING gargoyles and revised the pitch to include Xanatos.
Anonymous writes...
You once said said that the New Olympians were worshipped as gods. So which gods were New Olympians?
Greg responds...
No. I said they were descended from the Olympians that were worshipped and/or feared as the gods and monsters of classical mythology.
Emmlei writes...
I was thinking recently about Demona and the Canmores/Hunters, and it dawned on me that it's a lot like the Montagues and Caputlets of 'Romeo and Juliet'. Both involve two 'families' battling each other over a past greivance, one whose cause unfortunately became lost in the past (for Gargoyles, it's some kid getting slashed in the face, and we never learn the cause in 'R&J'). In both, the drive for revenge becomes the driving force for keeping the feud going. It's kind of tragic that in both stories, something as low as vengence causes so much pain on both sides. So, was that intentional or did I just come across one of those universal themes?
Greg responds...
Largely the universal theme thing. The obvious piece that's missing to make it truly parallel R&J is the young lovers. And I don't think that Jason & Elisa really fill those rolls, wouldn't you agree?
I was going to do a much more dead-on R&J riff in NEW OLYMPIANS with Terry Chung and Sphinx.
LSZ writes...
How much by 2158 does the human world know about the truth of the New Olympians' origins?
Greg responds...
A lot.
Damien writes...
I had a question, but I wasn't sure if putting it at the bottom of my last post would violate your 'separate posts' rule or not. Anyway, I recently watched 'New Olympians' and when Taurus tells Proteus( masquerading as Golaith) not to interfere, at the Collonadium(sp?), he wasn't surprised that he hadn't turned to stone. You said once that there were gargoyles on New Olympus. Was Taurus not surprised because some of the gargoyles there don't turn to stone?
If so why don't they turn to stone?
Greg responds...
They turn to stone. Taurus was distracted and not thinking.
Kraken writes...
Hello mr. Weisman
On New Olympus, will the Gargoyle clan be divided in three factions or will they all stay in one faction? If one group, which one?
Greg responds...
Haven't thought about that, honestly.
Axem Gold writes...
1) If and when you get to do tose Gargoyle Episodes and Spinoffs do you plan to do crossovers like the following:
Gargoyles: 2158/Timedancer
Dark Ages/Timedancer
Pendragon/Bad Guys
2) Would you still include the Previously On Gargoyles segments when necessary?
Greg responds...
1. 2158(revised) and TimeDancer, definitely.
Dark Ages and TimeDancer, probably.
Pendragon/Bad Guys. Probably, eventually.
Pendragon/Gargoyles. Definitely.
Bad Guys/Gargoyles. Definitely.
New Olympians/Gargoyles. Definitely.
New Olympians/Pendragon/Bad Guys - Eventually.
2. Probably.
Charles writes...
One of my favorite New Olympians was the robot Talos. I was kinda upset when Proteus threw it off that building. Was he destroyed? Did you have further plans for it?
Greg responds...
He was badly damaged. But not for the first or last time. He would absolutely be rebuilt and would have been one of the four leads, alongside Taurus, Sphinx and Terry Chung in the NEW OLYMPIANS spin-off that I had planned.
Graymonk writes...
Sorry for the double post Mr. Weisman but #6 on my list was supposed to be Loch Ness, Scotland, not Loch Ness, Spctland. sorry must have slipped by me while proof reading,
Just so this post isn't a total waste of space I have a few Questions about the extent of Proteus' shape shifting ability:
1) Can he morph into any form he can imagine or is he limited to creatures that exist in the real world?
2) In "The New Olympians" Proteus only assumed the forms of living creatures is he limited to only living creatures or can he become inanimate objects?
Thankyou very much.
Greg responds...
The typo did not escape my attention. But I covered for you.
1. He's got a lot to choose from already.
2. Sure.
Isaac Kelley writes...
Alright, in Hunters Moon, my personal favorite episode, Demona almost unleashed a magical disease that would have killed all sentience. Gargoyles would be immune to it's effects thanks to the Praying Gargoyle.
Now we all know Goliath smashed the statue and saved the world. But what if this was not the case...
1. All humans would have died. Macbeth is obviously human. Would this not have qualified as death at Demona's hands, thus killing Demona (oops)?
2. If not, would she fall prey to it when she turned into human form? How would this work?
3. Would this spread to Avalon and/or the isle of the New Olympians?
4. How would it affect... Oberon's Children?
5. ...New Olympians?
6. ...Gargoyle clones?
7. Any other effects?
Thanks for your time. Love your rambles, by the way, look forward to next season's rambles.
Greg responds...
More hypothetical questions... YAY!
1. I've answered this many times before. Try looking through the Demona or Macbeth archives. Briefly, it would depend on Demona's intent.
2. I'm sure she thought she was safe.
3. No reason why it wouldn't spread to New Olympus. No reason why it would spread to Avalon.
4. Potentially not at all.
5. Kill most of them probably.
6. Not at all.
7. Anyone who asks hypothetical questions based on untread pathes would die. :)
LSZ writes...
What's the New Olympian's religion like?
Greg responds...
There isn't just one.
Laura aka 'ad astra' writes...
I wasn't planning to post another question until you had gotten to the last batch I posted. I figure how long it takes you to get to Ask Greg is a pretty good indication of how swamped you are. However, it is easier to figure out where to start looking for questions posted since I have last looked when I have a landmark post to start from. I guess I am a bit egocentrical since the landmark has to be of my own making:]
Here's a strange little question- As a fan I am happy whenever you expand the Gargoyle universe, so the inclusion of the New Olympian spin-off, and how well it would compare and contrast to the Gargoyle one was just a big plus. However, now that you pitched it as a Gargoyle spin-off, and, for now at least, it did not happen, do you regret having pitched it? I don't know if Disney has any claim to it from your pitch- but I bet they would have to all the characters we saw in the World Tour ep. I suppose you could redesign and alter it a lot, but it would not be the same and you couldn't pitch it as you picture it to another network. So do you, in part, wish you hadn't connected it to Gargoyles, or has it become an organic part of the Gargoyle universe and you really couldn't imagine New Olympians separately anyway?
Greg responds...
Your question pre-supposes some incorrect assumptions. New Olympians was created before Gargoyles, but like Gargoyles it was developed at Disney by Disney full-time employees, so Disney owned it all, independent of whether or not we chose to connect it up to the Gargoyles Universe. So, since it seemed to fit nicely, and might benefit both Universes, we chose to combine them into one Universe. No regrets there.
And by the way, I didn't come up with the initial idea for the New Olympians. The creator of that show was Bob Kline, who was Development Art Director for both New Olympians and Gargoyles, and was later a Director and Producer on Gargoyles. He directed the episode "The New Olympians".
Bob's idea went through a bit of a metamorphosis under my aegis. And we worked on it closely together. Greg Guler was brought in to help design some of the characters. But Bob should get credit for his contribution.
LSZ writes...
Do the New Olympian gargoyles protect New Olympus the way other clans protect an area?
Greg responds...
Yes.
Todd Jensen writes...
According to what I've heard about your discussion of "The New Olympians" spin-off that you'd planned at the Gatherings, Xanatos would have shown up in it as a sort of trading partner to New Olympus, both under his own name and under Xavier. You've mentioned here earlier that Xavier was the "first-draft" name for Xanatos, back when "Gargoyles" was going to be a comedy series. Was Xavier/Xanatos originally created for the "New Olympians" series when it was first thought up, before "Gargoyles" came along, and then transfered to "Gargoyles" when "New Olympians" didn't get off the ground (the same as the New Olympians themselves eventually)?
Greg responds...
First off, there is no Xavier in the Garg Universe. The Xanatos name completely took it's place. And Xavier never appeared in the New Olympian Pitch. We pitched New Olympians first, pre-Gargoyles. (Based on an idea by Bob Kline.) Then after Gargoyles was up and running, we trotted the New Olympian pitch back out, made some minor changes, including the addition of Xanatos and pitched the show again. Still with no success.
But Xanatos was created for Gargoyles. Adding him to New Olympians, was an afterthought.
Todd Jensen writes...
We know how Taurus views the fate of the original Minotaur at Theseus's hands. In your opinion, how does Sphinx view the fate of the original Sphinx (the one who met Oedipus)?
Greg responds...
Haven't thought about it. Probably about the same.
Hesparian General writes...
This got lost in the queue, so I'll post it again.
Why did Micheal did the voice of Taurus, even if he is doind the voice of coldstone?
Greg responds...
Michael Dorn was a natural to play Taurus. It was a very Worf-like character in many ways. But because we already had used him as Coldstone, we decided to hire someone else. That person did NOT work out well at all. (That entire episode was a problem. We had another Proteus and another Boreas as well.) Since we had to re-spend the money to recast so many people, I didn't want to take any chances the second time. (There was no way that we'd be allowed a third chance.) So we went with three people we knew we could count on, i.e. Roddy McDowell as Proteus, Dorian Harewood (am I spelling these correctly?) as Boreas and of course Michael Dorn as Taurus.
Aris Katsaris writes...
Anonymous> Hey, there's a *big* difference between Helius and Apollo! Jeez! :-)
Greg responds...
Yeah. Jeez.
And the New Olympian Helios had flaming hair, but did the Greek God Helios have it? Not that I recall.
LSZ writes...
Technology:
1) How long did it take for the New Olympians to develop their technology to the level seen in New Olympians?
2) In any respects are any of the three races involved in the Space-Spawn war less advanced than what we've seen of Earthly technology? Meaning is there anything in particular technologically Earth has that the aliens don't have? Like say, Sevarius' genetic manipulation, the NO's anti-gravity, Xanatos' Matrix..
3) How advanced were Gargoyles technologically by the time humanity came along? Stone Age-tech?
4) Castle Wyvern is a large stone-built fortress that looks like it was built using construction techniques and concepts that didn't appear in Europe until after the Crusades(I think). So why, in the Gargoyles universe, are the Europeans of 994 more advanced than in history? What in-universe explanation is there?
5) King Arthur of the 6th century seems to wear at least partial plate armour that didn't appear until the 1400's? what's the in-universe explanation here?
Greg responds...
1. Until 1996.
2. Generally, they are more advanced than us. But I won't rule out the possiblility that we might not be able to surprise them.
3. Not very. It was unnecessary to their life-styles. Humans are a much more adaptable race, for better and for worse.
4. In universe, I don't need an explanation if I don't feel like dealing. They just are. Perhaps less was forgotten. Perhaps magic was involved. Perhaps our knowledge is flawed.
5. He had access to sources of Armor that most people didn't. We assume that these things didn't EXIST until later. All we KNOW is that they weren't prevalent until later.
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