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DPH
AR, USA
Sunday, May 11, 2003 09:52:57 PM
IP: 204.94.193.38
Happy Birthday, Matt!
As for your question, you know, it's pathetic, I just watched that episode yesterday and I don't know, but five seems to stick out in my mind for some odd reason.
Cassie
Sunday, May 11, 2003 08:25:59 PM
IP: 137.141.237.139
Happy Birthday Matt!!
Gabriel
Sunday, May 11, 2003 08:16:52 PM
IP: 68.116.248.99
hey! its me birthday! i'm (finally) 21!
(4 points) without looking, how many 'spokes' are there when you look at the city of Karadigi? try that one!
matt
Sunday, May 11, 2003 07:45:48 PM
IP: 216.178.8.74
It's Keith, not Kieth.
Anonymous
Sunday, May 11, 2003 01:30:33 PM
IP: 80.148.23.218
Jimmy - <Ya know, if you're really itching for trivia, there is a page for it on s8's very own index page.> Yea, but I've done that already a while back.
DPH
AR, USA
Sunday, May 11, 2003 10:14:10 AM
IP: 204.94.193.73
Kaena: The Prophecy is a new feature film created entirely in 3D (much like Final Fantasy) using off-the-shelf products.
There's a Computer Graphics World article on the movie here: http://cgw.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?Section=Articles&Subsection=Display&ARTICLE_ID=174585
I mention it for two reasons. First, it's got a cool style to it. It looks interesting and is certainly worth a look.
Second reason is that it sounds that Kieth David, voice of Goliath, has a role in the English dub of the film. You can see and hear for yourself in the first of four movie clips available for download from the site. The clip in question is located at: http://www.kaena.lycos.fr/mov_en/Extrait4/Extrait_4_1600k.mov
eric
Sunday, May 11, 2003 06:08:25 AM
IP: 141.154.215.82
Ya know, if you're really itching for trivia, there is a page for it on s8's very own index page. Or just click my name.
Jimmy
Sunday, May 11, 2003 01:34:24 AM
IP: 199.74.80.183
Battle Beast>> It's a photograph of Elisa's family.
Enigma
Saturday, May 10, 2003 03:00:23 PM
IP: 24.118.156.5
Battle Beast - The portrait of Elisa's graduation from the police academy with her family present. You asked for it. During Hunter's Moon part 1, when Goliath's clan first encounters the Hunters, which hunter used what weapon on which gargoyle in what order? I'm not counting the laser fire when the gargoyles were retreating. Each part is worth 2-3 points.
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, May 10, 2003 02:16:19 PM
IP: 204.94.193.17
Enigma> Correct!
DPH> Ok. Go ahead!
14) Which picture does Broadway pick up in Elisa home just before he shoots her? (3 pts)
Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaSaturday, May 10, 2003 01:34:09 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242
Battle Beast - Trust me, it's worth a lot more than 4 points because it's a multipart question. Each part would be worth 2-3 points, and there's more than 2 parts. You can be the judge of how many points getting the entire question worth because it's worth a lot.
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, May 10, 2003 02:49:07 AM
IP: 204.94.193.12
Battle Beast>> It was used in the Coyote (sp?) 4.0 robot that Xanatos built to catch Coyote the trickster.
Enigma
Saturday, May 10, 2003 12:22:46 AM
IP: 24.118.156.5
DPH> Correct.
Since I'm itching to ask question "13," I'll throw it out and you can throw your's out at the same time. Is it a really hard question, worth 4 points?
Of course, I can't answer the question, or get points.
Cassie> If you want, you can ask some of your questions, too.
Next Q:
13) What happened to the "Cauldron of Life"? (2 pts)
Later~
Battle Beast
Friday, May 9, 2003 11:35:09 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242
Battle Beast - <Who made this statement: "What does this look like, Aladdin's lamp?"> The Mirror, Puck speaking to Demona in reference to the power of Queen Titania's mirror. I'd like to throw out a question worth more than 4 points for your quiz, just to even things up.
DPH
AR, USA
Friday, May 9, 2003 05:23:36 PM
IP: 204.94.193.72
DPH> Correct.
12) Who made this statement: "What does this look like, Aladdin's lamp?" (3 pts; What episode, who said it, and to whom they said it to required.)
Later~
Battle Beast
HOCKEY, GOLD MEDAL, GO CANADA GO
Friday, May 9, 2003 05:18:52 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242
Oh yea, btw, it was 12 Thailog Shock Troops during Future Tense and 2 more if you count the ones who "kidnapped" Lex.
DPH
AR, USA
Friday, May 9, 2003 02:15:56 PM
IP: 204.94.193.32
Battle Beast - Recap.
DPH
AR, USA
Friday, May 9, 2003 02:13:44 PM
IP: 204.94.193.32
Gabe> Correct.
Next question...
11) Matt uses a robot to find Coldstone in the GOLDEN CUP, and then Goliath uses it to go inside Coldstone. What is it called? (3 Pts)
Later~
Battle Beast
HOCKEY, GOLD MEDAL, GO CANADA GO
Friday, May 9, 2003 01:39:06 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242
Battle Beast> Arizona.
Gabriel
Friday, May 9, 2003 12:50:30 PM
IP: 129.120.35.51
Hey...
Vashkoda> Correct. (I forgot to mention that it was a 2 point question.)
It's Friday, so I will post the point standings. I will start posting on mondays after the room has wiped.
After 9 questions:
DPH 7
Cassie 5
Demona Taina 3
Warrioress 2
Vashkoda 2
Gabriel 1
Next Q:
10) What is the last *true* stop on the world tour?
Later~
Battle Beast
HOCKEY, GOLD MEDAL , GO CANADA GO
Friday, May 9, 2003 12:26:49 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242
Yes, it is sad to realize that Saturday Morning Cartoons are a thing of the past, but I wouldn't call these dark days for animation fans.
You've got the Cartoon Network that still runs Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry, Smurfs (maybe? do they still run this one?), and giving us new series like He-Man.
You've got dvd versions of Batman: The Animated Series, X-Men Evolution, Justice League, Super Friends (all of these got new discs out there this month!), Spider-Man, Battle of the Planets (how cool is that!), Batman Beyond, and Beast Wars.
You've got boxed sets of the original Transformers, Robotech, and Gundam.
You've got Disney bringing out their impressive animated movie collection to dvd (now 2 movies a year). And most importantly, a GARGOYLES dvd in the works (supposedly....I still won't believe it till I see some confirmed cover art).
Still though, it is dishearting to know that the children to come will never know that urge to wake up early on a saturday morning to catch their favorite cartoons. Ahh, nowadays, kids would just set the vcr timer and sleep in anyway. ^_^
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Thursday, May 8, 2003 09:54:12 PM
IP: 66.220.73.119
Jimmy:
"The toys and games associated with a children's program can be more important than the program itself."
Sigh. No wonder why a lot of cartoons have cruddy storylines/plots, stupid characters, and hardly any quality in plot and animation. Business seems to be concerned with milking a show for all its worth without first making the show decent, much less enjoyable to watch.
"As the advertisers and the broadcasters and the techno-wizards who come up with these devices get together, they will discover a way for everyone to make their money. There will be some kind of sponsorship associated with shows. For example, at the bottom of the TV screen, it might say, 'Sony,' with a banner running across outlining new Sony products." Television may return to having specific products sponsor a show: for example, in a decade one may watch Kellogg's Cornflakes Proudly Presents The Simpsons."
I really hope I don't have to see a show being presented by some company that is completely unrelated to the show.
""Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, at the height of its success, was never even comparable to the average primetime show. One hour of primetime generated the same profit as the entire Saturday morning lineup."
Umm, there were more adults than children populating the earth at the time. Of course an average primetime show would have more viewers.
It seems rare to have a really good cartoon/animation show, in terms of good storyline/characterization/etc., that also sells well so businesses would keep airing it. Apparently the only avenue to get a well-thought out story in this day and age are books.
Rac
Troy, NY, USA
Thursday, May 8, 2003 07:55:22 PM
IP: 128.113.147.233
Pity Greg Weisman. He's got a whole batch of questions coming up in the queue about "Would so-and-so [various legendary/literary figures] have appeared in 'Gargoyles'?" It's a shame that whoever asked those questions didn't pay attention to Greg's statement "With enough time and episodes, everybody would have gotten in."
Although the choice of people that the person asked about was interesting. It included Roland and his fellow paladins from Charlemagne's court, characters from Edmund Spenser's "Faerie Queene", Don Quixote, and characters from the works of Charles Dickens. Quite a literate assortment.
(Actually, a few "Faerie Queene" figures did make it into "Gargoyles" already; King Arthur (whom the questioner mentioned) was one, and Talos was another. Also, the heroine of the first book of the "Faerie Queene" is named Una and there was a recurring villain, an evil wizard named Archimago (which sounds like an Italianized version of....). Not to mention that the faerie queen of the title, Gloriana, was mentioned by Spenser as being Oberon's daughter and successor (although actually Spenser's Oberon was designed as an idealized version of Henry VIII - idealized as in no mention of beheading his wives - in the same way that Gloriana is an idealized Elizabeth I).
While I always could easily believe that the Twelve Peers of Charlemagne and figures from the "Faerie Queene" could get into the Gargoyles Universe, a few years ago I'd have been sceptical about Don Quixote or Dickens's characters. But after what Greg Weisman said about Jean Valjean, their existence in it isn't quite so improbable. (And actually, Shakespeare and Cervantes were contemporaries, so if Shakespeare's characters can get in....)
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, May 8, 2003 07:54:24 PM
IP: 63.208.42.2
Battle Beast> Arthur smashes the red stone in the breast of the dragon in the center of the maze of the Brooklyn Botanical Gardens.
Vashkoda
Thursday, May 8, 2003 07:37:48 PM
IP: 129.98.127.164
Gabriel> Correct.
Elisa states to Owen that she though she saw the statue "move." That was Hudson.
9) What does King Arthur smash to free his sword, Excalibur?
Cassie> I have a lot of questions myself, but maybe in a week or so we can try yours.
Jimmy> Yah. It's sad, alright. There are no more *good* shows out. In my city, Edmonton, we get channelsas follows:
2 (CTV, Candian TV), 4 (CBC, Canadian Broadcasting Company), 7 (A-Channel), and 8 (Global) as *Canadian* channels. 3 (NBC), 6 (CBS), 28 (FOX), 33 (TBS), and 46 (ABC). On Staurdays on CTV, Global, and maybe NBC and CBS, there are only morning news shows. On TBS, it's movies. On CBC it's sports, ALL DAY. On A-Channel and Fox, there are Cartoons, but they severly lack where it counts.
Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaThursday, May 8, 2003 07:30:36 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242
Jimmy> Damn, that's depressing. I still remember waking up early to watch the Smurfs every Saturday. It's kind of scary to think that the phrase "Saturday Morning Cartoons" will mean nothing to the next generation. It makes me feel really *old*. -_-
Vashkoda
Thursday, May 8, 2003 07:28:32 PM
IP: 129.98.127.164
Hi, I'm just promoting my new Demona website, sorry if it's kinda OT, but I'm trying to get this link out so I can actually get somehits:
http://www.demona-obsession.org
Sonique
Thursday, May 8, 2003 05:23:50 PM
IP: 68.112.132.122
In an effort to get some discussion going in here:
http://mag.awn.com/index.php3?ltype=pageone&article_no=1751&page=4
I almost cried when I read the last paragraph. It's a sad, sad day for animation fans.
Jimmy
Thursday, May 8, 2003 04:28:19 PM
IP: 199.74.80.183
Battle Beast - It's ok...! Hehe But technically Greg Bishansky is the one who said the "if" thing, I only commented that I didn't recall her being mentioned.
You know, I was thinking, not to steal your thunder or anything....but maybe it'd be less taxing on you and potentially flow a bit faster if the trivia questions went in a round. You know, someone asks and whomever gets the right answer gets to ask a question, unless they want to pass or something.
I dunno, but I've thought of a few, personally, since you started this...*shrugs* Just curious and all.
Cassie
Thursday, May 8, 2003 03:37:59 PM
IP: 137.141.236.162
Battle Beast> Hudson.
Gabriel
Thursday, May 8, 2003 03:37:23 PM
IP: 68.116.248.99
Battle Beast - Bronx.
DPH
AR, USA
Thursday, May 8, 2003 03:29:55 PM
IP: 204.94.193.12
Ok, Ok, I give. I was wrong. :(
Warrioress got the answer I was looking for, but Cassie got the CORRECT answer. Points to each. I'll post another Question.
8) Who is the first Gargoyle Elisa sees? (1 point)
This is a question I KNOW has a correct answer to it.
Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaThursday, May 8, 2003 03:07:35 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242
Hmm, I don't recall there ever being a mention of his mother's job. I know she died in like 1975. And that his father, Petros was a fisherman (and a poor one at that)...but other than the sarcastic comment when he was in prison that's already been mentioned...I can't even think of another time they ever speak of her! *shrugs* Meh, oh well.
Cheers!
Cassie
Thursday, May 8, 2003 11:42:18 AM
IP: 137.141.236.162
Nononononono.
Xanatos says:
"Just like mom used to make. If mom was a prison cook."
*If*. She wasn't a prison cook.
Greg Bishansky
Thursday, May 8, 2003 10:29:40 AM
IP: 216.179.6.208
"No, I meant Xanatos' Mother. What was her job? Xanatos clearly says it in an early ep. "
Oh, yes, he said "Mom was a prison cook." (in The Edge, I think?)
warrioress
Thursday, May 8, 2003 10:24:35 AM
IP: 66.142.59.75
No, I meant Xanatos' Mother. What was her job? Xanatos clearly says it in an early ep.
Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaThursday, May 8, 2003 10:10:48 AM
IP: 139.142.189.66
Click the link on my name. I think we will all get a kick out of it.
http://www.little-gamers.com/
Jimmy
Thursday, May 8, 2003 12:36:13 AM
IP: 199.74.80.183
Cammy-Chan>> It's located on Scotland's west coast. However I don't think they ever really told us on the show exactly where in Scotland the fictional Castle Wyvern is/was located.
Enigma
Wednesday, May 7, 2003 09:28:07 PM
IP: 24.118.156.5
I've got a question that I can't seem to find the answer too. Does any one know where exactically in Scotland caste Wyvern is located at?
Cammy-chan
Wednesday, May 7, 2003 08:24:45 PM
IP: 172.136.190.198
Don't they show all the episodes during the big halloween marathon? How many years have they been doing that? Hopefully, it'll be on again this year....Did I read correctly? Does TD put on an independence day marathon as well?
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Wednesday, May 7, 2003 06:24:32 PM
IP: 66.220.73.51
Well, that's just great. I'm moving along quite nicely in my quest to get all Gargoyles episodes and Toon Disney yanks out the power pack. Wonderful. If they had just run 1 more power pack, I woulda been in much better shape. *sigh*
27 Episodes to go. I should get 2 more I need this Saturday. That's assuming they air Gargoyles then. >:(
Freaking fantastic.
Nickerous - [nickerous@yahoo.com]
SC, USA
Wednesday, May 7, 2003 06:22:35 PM
IP: 66.220.73.51
Oh well, the idea of six episodes of Gargoyles every Thursday was fun while it lasted. I think we now know why TD felt it was worth doing a marathon (which I thought was a little silly when you have mini-marathons every Thursday anyway. Of course the plus side to the marathon is that the eps are in order). I wonder if between now and the DVD release, we will see Gargoyles disappear from Toon Disney entirely. They might reason that the DVD would sell better if the episodes were no longer accessible on television.
Vashkoda
Wednesday, May 7, 2003 12:47:35 PM
IP: 129.98.127.164
Greg started answering questions again last night. Take a look at the latest answers up at "Ask Greg". (There's a little new information about the New Wyvern clan in 2198).
Todd Jensen - [merlyn1@mindspring.com]
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, May 7, 2003 07:34:15 AM
IP: 67.28.93.136
Battle Beast - Funny, my memory banks are completely empty when it comes to anything related to David Xanatos's mother. If you meant Fox's mother, which occupation: queen of the 3rd race or research scientist?
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, May 6, 2003 11:38:11 PM
IP: 204.94.193.33
I knew that it was "Possesion." Stupid me. I better get my questions right!
But, your answer was correct! 2 points.
7) What was Xanatos' Mother's job? (2 pts)
Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaTuesday, May 6, 2003 11:02:31 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242
Cassie>> Thanks!:)
Enigma
Tuesday, May 6, 2003 09:50:10 PM
IP: 24.118.156.5
Enigma this is the news post you're looking for, just C&P it - http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?threadid=74697
TZ is actually very easy to navigate, if you're looking for news, just go to the site and click on the News link at the top. You might have had trouble finding the link, though as it's listed together with other stuff. (Hate when they do that.)
Hope I helped.
Cassie
Tuesday, May 6, 2003 08:50:40 PM
IP: 137.141.237.43
Ok, Battle Beast just so you don't beat me over with a technicality, it was either a clock or a giant watch.
DPH
Tuesday, May 6, 2003 07:41:08 PM
IP: 204.94.193.38
Battle Beast - Don't you mean Possession? I don't recall seeing Puck in "The Reckoning".
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, May 6, 2003 07:39:41 PM
IP: 204.94.193.38
Battle Beast - A Clock.
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, May 6, 2003 07:38:49 PM
IP: 204.94.193.38
Um...I have a question. I know that Toon Disney is having a Gargoyles Marathon on June 13th. Now is it from 9AM-3PM? That's what I remember, but I can't find the anouncement on Toon Zone anymore. (I'll admit I'm not familiar with the site at all) I don't get Toon Disney, so I'm trying to get one of my friends to tape it for me, but I want to make sure I got all the info straight.
Enigma
Tuesday, May 6, 2003 05:54:42 PM
IP: 24.118.156.5
Boy, what a boring day!
Because of the snow, I couldn't go in to school today... (bummer).
Cassie> Thanks:) As for your answer... Correct! 2 points.
6) In "The Reckoning," Puck pulls something out of his vest and hands it to Goliath. What is it? (2 pts)
Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaTuesday, May 6, 2003 05:32:13 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242
Er...backflips even. *mumbles* (Sorry for the double post.)
Cassie
Tuesday, May 6, 2003 03:02:55 PM
IP: 137.141.237.43
It's all good, BB. As for your question, she tells him to work on his blackflips.
Cassie
Tuesday, May 6, 2003 03:01:36 PM
IP: 137.141.237.43
Hey...
Ooopps. My Mistake. :(
Demona Taina> Correct.
But, I'll give you each a point for my mistake.
5) What does fox tell "Harvey" to work on? (2 Pts)
Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaTuesday, May 6, 2003 01:58:55 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242
Actually, Battle Beast, Brooklyn doesn't comment on any author. Lexington is the one who mentions Shakespeare.
Cassie
Tuesday, May 6, 2003 01:21:10 PM
IP: 137.141.237.43
Battle Beast: That would be Shakespeare.
Demona Taina - [demona3@hotmail.com]
Ponce, Puerto Rico
Tuesday, May 6, 2003 11:17:07 AM
IP: 196.42.28.35
P.S. Thanks, Gabe!
Uh oh... class is starting, better go!
Later~
Battlebeast3
CanadaTuesday, May 6, 2003 10:25:20 AM
IP: 139.142.189.66
DPH> Correct!
4) In "Enter MacBeth," Brooklyn comments on some "new author." Who is it? (1 point)
Uh oh... class is starting, better go!
Later~
Battlebeast3
CanadaTuesday, May 6, 2003 10:24:48 AM
IP: 139.142.189.66
Battle Beast - I'll try nail it down. You specifically said "Awakening Part 1" so you're definitely talking about before the massacre. (If you're talking about after the massacre, I'm going with zero bites.) Since both 2 (from last week) and 3 bites are incorrect and I distinctly recall seeing Broadway take at least 2 bites, the answer has got to be 4.
DPH
AR, USA
Tuesday, May 6, 2003 01:42:03 AM
IP: 204.94.193.54
BB> Cinco de Mayo :)
Gabriel
Tuesday, May 6, 2003 01:10:18 AM
IP: 68.116.248.99
Battle Beast: 2
Jimmy
Tuesday, May 6, 2003 12:13:13 AM
IP: 199.74.80.183
Hey, Happy Cinco De Mio... Myo? (SP?)
Enigma> Nope, sorry. Try again! :) Question is till up for grabs.
Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaMonday, May 5, 2003 11:42:46 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242
Hey, Happy Cinco De Mio... Myo? (SP?)
Enigma> Nope, sorry. Try again! :) Question is till up for grabs.
Later~
Anonymous
Monday, May 5, 2003 11:42:22 PM
IP: 66.222.190.242
Battle Beast>> It's just a guess, but...3?
Enigma
Monday, May 5, 2003 07:56:47 PM
IP: 24.118.156.5
You definitely need to be sterilized for posterity.
Question
Monday, May 5, 2003 05:24:49 PM
IP: 216.170.210.200
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kerl howrs - [bretnbriget]
rocky ponit, New York
Monday, May 5, 2003 04:05:23 PM
IP: 162.84.154.52
cooler me
kallo kier - [brettnbriget]
rocky ponit, new york, untied states
Monday, May 5, 2003 04:03:20 PM
IP: 162.84.154.52
i luv them
Krista limoncelli - [bretnbriget@ol.com]
rocky ponit, new york, untined states
Monday, May 5, 2003 04:00:01 PM
IP: 162.84.154.52
Sorry for the double post.
I am going to post this again so more people see it.
I had an idea to get some life in here... I was going to start a "trivia" game, just for fun, whereby I would ask a question (easy and hard answers) and someone would answer. The first correct answer would get points based on the value of the question (Easy = 1, Medium = 2, Hard = 3. (I would keep a running tab of all points.) Any one interested in playing?
After two questions, DEMONA TAINA and DPH are tied with two points each.
Here is the third question...
3) Before bonking the Viking on the head in "Awakening: Part 1," how many bites of meat did Broadway eat? (3 points)
I will probably post weekly results on friday.
Later~
Battle Beast
CanadaMonday, May 5, 2003 10:06:18 AM
IP: 139.142.189.66
Top Ten!!!
Battle Beast
CanadaMonday, May 5, 2003 09:58:12 AM
IP: 139.142.189.66
9th !. you know its slow if you can still be in a place and it be monday .
Babs
Monday, May 5, 2003 09:33:51 AM
IP: 68.83.228.122
Eight is great!
Phil - [p1anderson@go.com]
Monday, May 5, 2003 08:34:55 AM
IP: 134.215.241.140
Seventh or so?
goliath_994 - [goliath_994@yahoo.com]
Monday, May 5, 2003 07:57:43 AM
IP: 24.243.105.129
Sixth...!
Cassie
Monday, May 5, 2003 07:33:56 AM
IP: 137.141.237.42
"At least the top 10 jumpstarted the room."
Don't be so sure, I've seen many weeks with only 14 or 15 posts.
Jimmy
Monday, May 5, 2003 02:37:13 AM
IP: 199.74.80.183
*Claims #5*
At least the top 10 jumpstarted the room.
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, May 5, 2003 01:51:14 AM
IP: 204.94.193.43
#4
X2 Rox my sox.
Jimmy
Monday, May 5, 2003 01:22:13 AM
IP: 199.74.80.183
Claims #3 for all the lonely people.
Wingless
Monday, May 5, 2003 12:50:10 AM
IP: 24.157.76.94
2nd
Leo
Monday, May 5, 2003 12:11:09 AM
IP: 68.96.8.12
FIRST!!!
Gabriel
Monday, May 5, 2003 12:01:08 AM
IP: 68.116.248.99