Comments for the week ending November 1, 2004

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I didn't care much for the Sci-Fi movie. I missed the first hour, and I still could pick up the storyline. Also, there were no charactoristics, that seperated those gargoyles from any other winged monster of horror films past. Even the legend surrounding them didn't give much insight.

Oh well, I guess when it comes to all things gargoyle, I'm used to a higher standard.
Jay
CT, USA
Sunday, October 31, 2004 11:30:05 PM
IP: 64.252.36.60

D. TAINA - I'm sorry about this, I really am, but I'm just not authorized to delete questions just because they've already been asked. I'm only authorized to delete questions that contain original ideas in them or have multiple topics. You'll need to raise the issue with Greg Weisman, rather than with me.

Happy Halloween, everyone! (Later this evening, I'll be fishing out my tape of "Eye of the Beholder" again, my Gargoyles tape for today. I watch it every Halloween.)
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Sunday, October 31, 2004 06:17:31 PM
IP: 4.244.12.172

silverbolt>I'm still kind of un decided if I liked the witch show or not. I really don't like that art style. I am tired of the whole japanese anime look on american cartoons. To me it always looks like the cartoon is un finished or there is no detail in the art like with other cartoons like gargoyles. The whole big eyes no nose and tiny mouth things just don't apeal to me. I saw some of the cartoon at comic con and the comics . I really liked the story line but the art to me just looks like another cheap anime cartoon. Some people like that I just never took to the cheaper anime stuff. Cartoons like hellsing and anime like that I like cause it's more detailed looking and more beliveable. But then agian witch is marketed toward young girls so they probally dont care. If you want thoughs witch comic con promo comics ask me I'm trying to get rid of a lot of left over stuff from comic con. I still have gargoyles the dvd postcards left if anyone wants them still.
Shara - [jeanie54_2000@yahoo.com]
Sunday, October 31, 2004 04:23:41 PM
IP: 209.179.128.97

D'OH! I put two of the cutscenes backwards! For those who have downloaded it, they're "Gargoyles 023" and "Gargoyles 024." Just switch their names. For those who haven't, I reuploaded it. Sorry!

Ckayote: Heh heh, yeah. I remember. But sometimes, I enjoy the old games more than the new ones. For example, a few days ago, I let my litle cousin play Duck Hunt on my old Nintendo and I offered to show him how to do it after many failed attempts on his part. So, I picked up the zapper, started shooting ducks... and I was hooked. [LOL] I couldn't stop playing! And even my grandma played after I got so angry because I missed ONE duck and the dog laughed at me and then it was game over! It was great!

And not to mention that I've been hooked on that Gargoyles game not because it's Gargoyles, but because it's so challenging that you can't help but want to make it to the end. So yeah, just because a game is old doesn't mean you can't enjoy it, and just because it's new doesn't mean it's worth playing. Hmm, I'm going to play it again...

Yes! Greg posted a new ramble! Hound of Ulster's original title was "A Bronx Tail"?! Wow, I'll never look at that title the same way again... Let's hope there are more rambles on their way!

Todd: Why can't you delete repeated questions? They're obviously flooding the queue and they slow down the whole process enough for the real questions to take years to get through. What's wrong with deleting them? I doubt all those people who flood the queue, who don't even bother to check the FAQ or the archives, are going to bother to check back two years from now to see the answer to their questions.
D. Taina - [<-- Cutscenes from the game!]
Sunday, October 31, 2004 12:03:29 PM
IP: 172.141.76.162

Demona Taina: Thanks for putting up the cut scenes. Remember when that was state of the art? Nowadays I could probably play that on my cell phone. But it would cost like $2.99 a minute so I won't.

Alex Garg: I agree, but hey, it was fun for 1:00 in the morning.
*Pauses to think how the clan would react*
CKayote - [CKayote@worldnet.att.net]
Orlando, FL
Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:17:29 AM
IP: 64.192.78.171

Gantros>> It was definitely of the B variety, but in a fun way. It certainly has camp value, and the CGI gargoyle was kind of nifty, but there are other things I could have done with those two hours.

I had a good laugh, though, was when the lead CIA agent, Griffin, asked people to call him Griff. Given the title of the movie, it just got me.

But, no, didn't miss much. Sci-Fi's put on better originals.
Alex Garg
VA, USA
Sunday, October 31, 2004 08:54:09 AM
IP: 216.145.68.130

Hey guys, I was just wondering if anyone saw W.I.T.C.H. On Jetix yesterday? I hope it's as good as the comics were, but I was bhoping I could get some opinions. :)
silverbolt - [silverbolt2012@hotmail.com]
EnglandSunday, October 31, 2004 06:02:54 AM
IP: 81.157.85.12

Well, the "Gargoyles" Sci-Fi Original Movie has played, did anyone see it? I had a Halloween party to be at so I didn't see it, but I would like to know if it was worth watching.
Gantros
Sunday, October 31, 2004 02:04:33 AM
IP: 24.20.243.55

It's come to my attention that Angelfire isn't letting people download the file by clicking the link. So, just right-click it and select "Save As," and save it to your computer. That should do the trick!
D. Taina - [<-- Screenshots from the Gargoyles game!]
Sunday, October 31, 2004 12:03:12 AM
IP: 172.151.173.13

I recommend the Gargoyles game to everyone. It's extremely difficult to beat, but it's so worth it in the end. You fight Vikings, Thor (twice!), giant robots, and Eye of Odin Demona. It's simply awesome, the music is amazing, and the stages are beautiful.

I've beaten it twice, but I cheated because I kept saving the game. Ah, the joys of emulators. ;) I just bought it off eBay, and as soon as I receive the Sega Genesis, then I'll find out just how difficult that game is to beat. But it's still fun!

Well, I beat the game today, and I took screenshots of each and every cutscene, including the "game over" ones. I put them all in a zip file and you can download it by clicking my name. I still have to take pictures of the stages and the bosses, especially Demona in her "ball of flame" form. But the cutscenes themselves are beautiful!

Vertigo: Nice banner! But I suggest you change the "1" to "one" and write it "season one" like this: "Season onE," or "SeasoN OnE," just like the Gargoyles logo (because, as you all know, it's "GargoyleS," not "Gargoyles"). And please change Goliath's color; he's purple. :D But it's great, I love the fire effect!
D. Taina - [<-- Screenshots from the Gargoyles game]
Saturday, October 30, 2004 05:45:25 PM
IP: 64.12.116.137

I started playing around with how the stencils would look with a lens effects glow filter in 3dsmax, and I rather like how it came out with the banner. :)

http://www.bakercountyonline.com/md-2389/Gargoyles_S1_Banner2.jpg

Comments?
Vertigo1
TN, USA
Saturday, October 30, 2004 05:16:45 PM
IP: 65.119.228.213

Just reminding you all about the two movies being played this evening on Sci-Fi. The first is "Darklight", which is Gargoyle-esque in that the main character turns into a winged creature. The other IS a Gargoyle movie with the title "Gargoyels: Wings of Darkness". The double feature starts at 7 PM PST. Click my name for a link to the official page.
Gantros
Saturday, October 30, 2004 10:49:54 AM
IP: 24.20.243.55

Vertigo: Maybe do one on each side?

Todd: Good for Greg! I will have to re-watch "Hound of Ulster" and then read the ramble.
CKayote - [CKayote@worldnet.att.net]
Orlando, FL
Saturday, October 30, 2004 10:09:23 AM
IP: 64.192.78.171

DPH - I'm sorry, but I can only delete questions that either contain original ideas or are on multiple topics. I can't delete a question just because it's been asked before (believe me, there'd be a lot fewer "why did the show end?" questions in the queue if I could).
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Saturday, October 30, 2004 07:51:07 AM
IP: 4.244.12.100

I decided to whip up a quick banner for the DVDs. Feel free to share, but if you use it please host it yourself. :)

http://www.bakercountyonline.com/md-2389/Gargoyles_S1_Banner.jpg

I can render it in whatever resolution is required, so if anyone has any special size requirements, get with me over ICQ or AIM and I'll see what I can do. If you have neither, then get with me via e-mail (md2389@gmail.com). Just keep in mind that I am by no means a professional artist. :)

ICQ: 168701920
AIM: Chris VG1

I took the liberty of using the Brooklyn stencil Siren posted below.
Vertigo1
TN, USA
Saturday, October 30, 2004 03:02:17 AM
IP: 207.65.41.157

Todd - **Please** delete the recently submitted question about what Titania said to Fox. I know there are at least *3* other times that question has been asked in the backlog.
DPH
AR, USA
Saturday, October 30, 2004 02:12:26 AM
IP: 67.14.195.41

Greg Weisman has just posted the ramble for "The Hound of Ulster" at "Ask Greg". We're finally getting rambles again - yay! Let's hope that the other 21 episodes (from "Walkabout" to "The Journey") are not far behind - all of them.

Many good bits here, including the revelation that the episode was originally to be entitled "A Bronx Tail" (they had to wind up saving that title for the Amish episode in the Goliath Chronicles), and an indication of what the name of Rory's home town is. (And Greg also mentions his regrets of Rory's similarity to the Mighty Thor in Marvel Comics - readers of TGS might recall that we even got in a little reference to that in one episode last year.)
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Friday, October 29, 2004 08:43:34 PM
IP: 4.244.18.55

I played a rom of the game, and it wasn't too hard until the last level, where I used the save state about a couple thousand times.
Anonymous
okc
Friday, October 29, 2004 07:40:32 PM
IP: 68.12.196.86

Siren: Again, thanks for posting those stencils. I just may use one on my computer's case. :) Though I can't decide between the Brooklyn and the Demona one. The idea is to cut the shape out, and then have a blue neon light shine through it. :) (I have enough plexiglass to cover up the holes it would leave.)
Vertigo1
TN, USA
Friday, October 29, 2004 04:54:22 PM
IP: 207.65.59.171

So what was the new policy again? I take it that Todd can copy-and-paste answers for previously answered questions?
JJ Gregarius
Tampa, FL
Friday, October 29, 2004 04:08:10 PM
IP: 4.247.182.187

Video Game> Thanks for the links and comments. I'm not sure if I'm willing to put in the effort to actually play the game since a) eveyone says it's really hard b) I frequently find older video games to have unresponsive controls compared to the newer ones i play now and c) I have enough ways to waste my time already. I was mostly just curious and wanted to see it in action. Oh well, there's always reruns.

"Ask Greg" Returns> While I'm glad to see it back, I do also worry that this will just create an ever greater backlog of already answered or pointless questions. Once again, Todd, I'm afraid most of the people who really need to hear your urging to think their questions over and check the archives are probably not coming to the comment room in the first place.

The ones that really drive me nuts are those along the lines of:

"Hi Greg. I looked all over the archive and I don't think you ever answered this question.

"Why did "Gargoyles" get cancelled?"

Sigh.
Demonskrye - [<---Jim Hill Media]
Friday, October 29, 2004 01:27:53 PM
IP: 67.100.23.24

I discovered that last night and frankly was hoping that nobody would notice as to keep newbies from flooding the backlog again. If new episode rambles are coming, . . .

Frankly, Ask Greg is still behind by roughly 2 years, although the situation is getting better because there are only 35 questions left from 2002. [370 questions from 2003] It is not like half the backlog could/would be wiped out within a month of opening Ask Greg up to others to quote previous answers from Greg Weisman.

Speaking of which, what would be the expectations on questions handled per day by quoting previous Ask Greg responses?

On the other hand, now is a good time to slip in all the questions that were generated by Ask Greg responses.
DPH
AR, USA
Friday, October 29, 2004 10:46:36 AM
IP: 161.31.67.68

Queue opening>> May I ask why?

Eclipse and Hunter's Moon >> I'm not sure that was the Hunter's Moon, but assuming that it was, I don't think a short eclipse would've affected the spell Todd mentioned. (You can still see the moon.) Heck, maybe it would have enhanced the spell, as the moon seemed to be blood-stained.
JJ Gregarius
Tampa, FL
Friday, October 29, 2004 09:04:10 AM
IP: 4.247.176.232

Except that the Golem is a genuine protector, while the Sentinels are the sort of protectors who evoke the question "Who's going to protect us from those protectors?"

The queue has been opened again at "Ask Greg". I urge everyone to think carefully and check the archives before posting new questions, however; we've already had far too many questions of the variety of "Why did the show end?", "Will the show return?", "Please send me a list of all of Oberon's Children", and so on.
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Friday, October 29, 2004 07:49:32 AM
IP: 4.244.12.239

Or maybe some insomniac staffer was doing site work. Poll results will be announced November 1st per previous announcements.
kathy - [staff@gargoyles-fans.org]
Friday, October 29, 2004 07:28:48 AM
IP: 66.82.9.48

When I checked around midnight last night, the Gathering 2005 Anthology poll had closed with a three-way tie. Now the poll results aren't displaying on the site. Is this another Florida coverup? Will the recount last until December? Will the Supreme Court end up deciding the winner? Stay tuned to this channel for continued coverage! ;)

39 days left until the spell is broken and they live again! Gargoyles Season One comes to DVD on December 7, 2004!
Patrick
Friday, October 29, 2004 06:50:06 AM
IP: 68.170.199.45

Gantros> Golem does look a bit like Nimrod, doesn't he? Mind you, the principle of the golem idea is the same as that of the sentinels...protectors, so it's actually nice to see that there is some similarity.
Draconis Mk IV
UK Friday, October 29, 2004 04:13:45 AM
IP: 212.50.170.28

Another thing aobut "Golem" I noticed is that it kind of looks like Nimrod, from X-Men:TAS. I find that resemblance rather ironic considering Gargoyles' airtime supposed to cut in half in favor of that series. X-Men:TAS isn't even all that great a series, it just rushes through the high points of the comics without stopping to look at the characters.

P.S. Sorry about the two anonymous posts, I forgot to put in my name :P
Gantros
Friday, October 29, 2004 03:57:35 AM
IP: 24.20.243.55

Just noticed a small error in Golem that I don't think anybody has mentioned yet. Max Loew was writing the spell to activate the Golem from left to right; Hebrew is written right to left.

*ventures off to study Dante's Divine Comedy, specifically the Inferno part for a test that will start in roughly 11 hours.*
DPH
AR, USA
Friday, October 29, 2004 03:00:34 AM
IP: 67.14.195.31

Siren> it's probably useless info by now (I doubt you still play the game), but the key to beating the elevator spider is to watch the Eye of Odin, just before it releases an electric pulse, it spins a bit faster. Just jump and flap to get out of the way and then climb onto the side of the elevator to destroy the arms by staying under them and punching them. Basically get close enough to the arms so you can hit them and they can't hit you, jumping away only to avoid the electric attack from the Eye.
Anonymous
Friday, October 29, 2004 01:41:29 AM
IP: 24.20.243.55

I made a Brooklyn pumpkin. I would have loved to do all of them, but between money and time (daughter's big birthday bash this weekend), I decided to do one. I'll post pictures in a few days.

I plays that Sega game. I agree. HARD. I only got up to that damn elevator with the spider thing that always knocked me off. Never have beat it.
Siren
Friday, October 29, 2004 01:10:14 AM
IP: 24.165.226.120

Also, at 7 PM Saturday they are playing a Gargoyles-esque movie called Darklight, which has people changing into Gargoyle-like creatures. Click my name for the Gargoyles Movie website

Anonymous
Friday, October 29, 2004 12:29:52 AM
IP: 24.20.243.55

HOT OFF THE PRESSES!!!
Sci-Fi Channel this Saturday is playing an original movie titled "Gargoyles: Wings of Darkness" at 9PM, October 30th, 9 PM. Other than that, I know no further details.
Gantros
Friday, October 29, 2004 12:27:45 AM
IP: 24.20.243.55

Phil> Yes, of course Greg has ways of scheming while on another series. That's what he's been doing for the last ten years:) Anyway, I think WITCH could be cool. It looks promising as a cartoon that I would let kids watch, if I had kids. Unlike _other_ shows I see today. Ugh! So I will try to tune in and see.

BTW, I had an unbiased opinion, as this is the first I ever heard that Greg is working on it. Weee! Hope renewed!
Jade Griffin
Thursday, October 28, 2004 10:52:43 PM
IP: 68.190.182.207

Demonskrye> If you really want to see the game, play it even, on your computer, go to Edgeemu.com and go to the roms section and search under the genesis listing until you find Gargoyles (The one with the most downloads is usually safest). It's free but you have to go to another website for the emulator: arcadeathome.com and search around until you find it.

Be warned, unless you actually own the cartridge, you must delete the ROM 24 hours after downloading, or at least delete after you are done :P.

I played and beat Gargoyles on Genesis, and the story is severely stripped down compared to the series. Basically, you only have control of Goliath, who is the only "good guy" character in the entire game. No Elisa, No Trio, not even Xanatos (although he is "seen" in his red combat armor in a later level). The sole antagonist is the Eye of Odin, which possesses(sp?) a common enemy at the end of each level, powering it up into a more powerful boss, and then you have to pummel it into submission. The only familiar character is the final boss, Demona. This game, despite it's lack of plot and familiar storyline, is H-A-R-D, HARD. I couldn't get through the factory stage without activating cheats AND looking at the walkthrough on gamefaqs.com

So here are the links:
www.edgeemu.com - Location of Gargoyles ROM
www.arcadeathome.com - Location of Genesis Emulator
www.gamefaqs.com - Location of walkthroughs and cheat codes
Gantros
Thursday, October 28, 2004 09:53:43 PM
IP: 24.20.243.55

More Attention for "Gargoyles"> This might have been mentioned before, but the G4/TechTV show "Judgement Day" - which reviews video games - featured the "Gargoyles" Genesis game as their "Buried Treasure"; a game from the past that not many people know about and that theoreticly can be found among a store's preowned selections for cheap. Of course, my idiotic cable box decided to go on the fritz while they were actually showing the game footage, which I've never seen. But still, anything to raise the profile of "Gargoyles".

Off-Topic Self Promotion> I've got another article up on JimHillMedia.com. This one is about Gertie the Dinosaur, without whom the clan and just about every other animted character might never have existed. Check it out and feel free to comment.
Demonskrye - [<---New Article!]
Thursday, October 28, 2004 08:50:15 PM
IP: 146.115.115.131

BISHANSKY - Correct!
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, October 28, 2004 08:06:11 PM
IP: 4.245.21.48

TODD> I believe it was Natsilane.
Greg Bishansky
Thursday, October 28, 2004 07:18:22 PM
IP: 199.93.82.187

Here's a Gargoyles Trivia Question. Today, October 28, is the anniversary of the founding of Harvard University (founded on October 28, 1636). Which "Gargoyles" character has attended Harvard?
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Thursday, October 28, 2004 06:54:59 PM
IP: 4.245.21.48

You've got mere hours to log in and chose the theme of the 2005 Gathering Anthology. Which will it be?
The Eye of Odin
Missing Stories From Season 2
Tales of Old Wyvern
Exiled: Avalon's Children on Earth
Demona's Story- A Day or So in a 1000 Year Life

Polls close tonight and the winner and submission rules will be announced November 1st.

For details about this and all of our other contests and events visit the Gathering of the Gargoyles!
kathy - [staff@gargoyles-fans.org]
Thursday, October 28, 2004 04:03:11 PM
IP: 66.82.9.66

Sandhli - Yankees may have won a ton of World Series trophies, but as we in the fandom of all that is Ye Mystic Crewe of the Buccaneers...

"'Tis QUALITY and not QUANITY that counts."

Besides, the Yanks got their high-falutin' tails sliced off and served to them on a dusty home plate by Boston's (and I quote the papers) "team of idiots", it a history making comeback from 3-0 deficit to win their chance to make history...

Someone today wrote this on the back windshield of their car:

"R.I.P. - BAMBINO : 1918 - 2004"

Fitting sentiment for the Curse... but I think the Babe would have been proud of these Beantown heroes.


Maintain and Check six!

Stephen Sobotka Jr.
Tampa, FL, USA
Thursday, October 28, 2004 03:20:33 PM
IP: 24.164.32.94

Jay, cute analysis, very cute, however, I hope that a clock-tower isn't destroyed while Boston is celebrating
Matt Fews
Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:05:00 PM
IP: 206.47.191.83

Sandili> They didn't win it this year.

All about the Red Sox! Frigging sweet!
Whitbourne
Thursday, October 28, 2004 05:35:39 AM
IP: 142.177.37.145

Yankees 26 World Championships versus 6 for Boston.
Sandili
Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:58:36 AM
IP: 152.3.66.89

86 years ago. Superstition and the bat ruled. It was a time of greatness, it was a world to revere. It was the Age of Red Sox. Champions of the World Series, celebrating by night, we were cursed by the Bambino. Now, here in St. Louis, the spell has been broken, and we win again....
Jay
CT, USA
Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:22:54 AM
IP: 64.252.36.60

The lunar eclipse was stunning tonight! Mom and I were worried it wouldn't be viewable with the storm. But it was because the storm had ended earlier today that there was such a clear night sky. Chilly as heck, but well worth it to linger outside and see the eclipse. I loved it when it was half in shadow and half out of it, imagery of being veiled.

Oooo, I had planned on just using the Gargoyles Goliath logo for a pumpkin stencil this year, but those Dreamie ones are so cool!

Victoria
Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:14:05 PM
IP: 24.126.137.116

*Peeks inside* Wow... haven't been here, well, in ages really. *waves at everyone*

I thought I would pop in and just hey to every, I've been in University learning the ancient art of illustration. ^_^

The main reason I popped in is to give my support to Greg Weisman about his new show. :) I was in Amsterdam a few months back and while buying food in the supermarket with the rest of my classmates I noticed a comic that stood out among the rest of the magazines. That comic was WITCH! I couldn't understand what they were saying in the comic because it was all in Dutch, but the pictures told the story clearly enough to know what was going on.

I found out hte basic plot was to do with these five girls. Will, Irma, Taranee, Cornelia and Hay Lin (Hey, that spells WITCH, how about that ;P) who discover they have magic powers and stuff and they have to protect this princess in another world I'm guessing from being overthrown. yeah, yeah It sounds corny, but actually, hte way they do it makes it really good. Remember, even things that have been done to death can still be fresh IF they take it on a course into uncharted waters of story telling.

Someone said here that this probably won't last and that it was in the same line as Dave the Barbarian (Walt Disney's head must be spinning in its cryogenic pod) well for one thing WITCH was more serious, even in this one issue that I have there was plenty of prsonal grief to fill a few dozen buckets, (One guy gets killed, or turned into a flower, I'm not sure why that happened, and I've said too much already, whoops) as well as laughs and because of that I wish Greg all the luck in the world, and please remember, just because it was in the style of manga, doesn't mean it has to be like totally spies. Demona didn't turn into a chibi when she got angry and started shooting things did she? *Go WITCH! Whoo!*
silverbolt - [silverbolt2012@hotmail.com]
EnglandWednesday, October 27, 2004 08:38:17 PM
IP: 193.63.197.246

Oooooh, I love the Brooklyn one!
Vertigo1
TN, USA
Wednesday, October 27, 2004 07:56:43 PM
IP: 207.65.41.151

Siryn>I found them! Thanks!

Click my name for pumpkin stencils! :D
Siren
Wednesday, October 27, 2004 07:28:41 PM
IP: 24.165.226.120

Siryn> Yeah, I'm certain dreamie has them up. If you look through the commission archives for the BlackHeart pic you'll find the original prototype image of one of Clan Heart that has since become more of a base for the Draconis Armour *grins* Yus, I commissioned it.

D.Tania> 101 reviews eh? Let's make that 150. I'l lget an entire roleplaying society to post reviews if I have to...
Draconis Mk IV
UK Wednesday, October 27, 2004 07:08:43 PM
IP: 213.249.184.244

This Hunter's Moon tonight will be a lunar eclipse; I wonder how that would have affected Demona's spell.
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Wednesday, October 27, 2004 06:46:43 PM
IP: 4.244.12.45

huzzah for a 101!!!!!!
*dances*
That was a lovely little jump up to and over our original goal :) Did any of us even see it at 100 first? It looks like we all caught it once it had gone to 101. Wow, and all this before Halloween even rolls around!
I know we can so totally manage 150 by Dec. 7!
Victoria
Wednesday, October 27, 2004 05:30:47 PM
IP: 66.125.193.75

Tonight is also the "Hunter's Moon" IIRC....

Anyone going to watch for flying airships? ;)
Vertigo1
TN, USA
Wednesday, October 27, 2004 04:54:17 PM
IP: 207.65.59.155

Hi! I'm usually just a lurker although I have posted in the past. Anyway, I just checked Disney's website and they've finally listed Gargoyles as an upcoming release on December 7th, 2004. It's nice to actually see it on Disney's website. Yay!!!

Link: http://disneyvideos.disney.go.com/ :)
Enigma
Wednesday, October 27, 2004 04:53:00 PM
IP: 24.118.182.35

Sorry for the double post, but...

It's funny. Buffy Season 7 comes out November 16th, and they only have 96 reviews on Amazon. :)
Kristen - [zzilly14@yahoo.com]
Virginia, USA
Wednesday, October 27, 2004 04:12:00 PM
IP: 199.249.157.129

"Our review count for the Gargoyles DVD has reached 101"

YES!!! WE MADE OUR GOAL!!!! WHOO!!!

Want to set a new goal? Let's shoot for 150 before December 7th!
Kristen - [zzilly14@yahoo.com]
Virginia, USA
Wednesday, October 27, 2004 04:09:51 PM
IP: 199.249.157.129

***Begin Announcement***

This is an important announcement from your resident Review Spokesperson. Our review count for the Gargoyles DVD has reached 101, meaning we have reached our goal of one hundred reviews. But that doesn't mean it's too late to add a review if you haven't already.

Thank you for listening.

***End Announcement***

Heh heh, "Review Spokesperson." I crack myself up! But really, this is great news! We have 101! Let's see how many more we can get before December 7th! :D
D. Taina - [<-- 101 reviews!]
Wednesday, October 27, 2004 01:50:59 PM
IP: 172.128.77.21

Si> Dreamie did them. I thought I had put links to them on Avalon Mists in the last issue? So they may still be up there. You'd have to check. I think dreamie's website is www.dreamie.org and shemight have them there too. :)
Siryn
Wednesday, October 27, 2004 08:07:02 AM
IP: 68.39.137.79

Happy Tinker Day!!!

(it's a Hollins thing)

According to the website (so I don't have to explain it): "Tinker Day, observed since the 1880s, occurs in October. It became an official holiday in 1895. The surprise element, which was introduced in 1899, adds to the excitement of the day. After the president's official declaration, classes are canceled and students, faculty, and staff hike Tinker Mountain attired in zany costumes for songs and a traditional picnic of fried chicken and Tinker Cake."

It's so much fun. It's raining unfortunately (too bad it wasn't yesterday, when it was NICE weather!) But I'm still gonna do it. Yay!!!
Kristen - [zzilly14@yahoo.com]
Virginia, USA
Wednesday, October 27, 2004 08:05:37 AM
IP: 199.249.157.129

Didn't someone design some Gargoyles pumpkin stencils a few years back? Anyone know where I can download them?
Siren - [sirengarg@yahoo.com]
Wednesday, October 27, 2004 07:45:52 AM
IP: 24.165.226.120

Coldstone ice cream is fantastic! There are a couple in my area, everyone always raves about the ice cream...haha, so sad the coolness of that name never struck me before.
Speaking of which, Posession is playing right now - hoorah for Puck and Coldstone!
Siren> awesome tidbit, I'll be sure to take a gander outside tomorrow night.

In review news, we're just a meager two reviews away from hitting 100!! I'm on the edge of my seat with anticipation for when those last two reviews come in.
And then....on to more reviews, haha.

In regular news, the theater department of my Uni is performing A Midsommer's Night's Dreame and a good friend of mine is playing Puck :) I can't wait to see it. Good timing too, because my Shakespeare class will be reading AMSND in another two weeks.
Victoria
Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:53:42 AM
IP: 24.126.137.116

Watch the sky Wednesday night, there is supposed to be a "Bloody Moon" (when the full moon turns red during an eclipse). They are saying it should be pretty good this year because of the recent earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. The extra dust in the atmosphere should produce a redder effect than usual. I believe it should be visible around 9:15 pm, as long as it's not cloudy.
Siren
Tuesday, October 26, 2004 08:53:16 PM
IP: 24.165.226.120

I've seen both the Olivier and the Branagh versions of "Henry V" (in fact, the local PBS station showed the Branagh "Henry V" only a little over a week ago); I've also seen a modern-dress version of it on video as part of an almost modern-dress version of the Wars of the Roses history cycle some years back. (It was pretty good, although I generally have my reservations about modern-dress productions of Shakespeare's history plays. I can accept a play with a made-up story such as "Romeo and Juliet" or "Othello" being set in post-Shakespearean times, but the history plays are based on actual events in 15th century English history, and staging them in modern dress can feel bizarre. Although I have seen good arguments for it - Ian McKellen did a movie version of "Richard III" set in the 1930's on the grounds that it made the storyline more accessible to an audience that was far less familiar with the Wars of the Roses than Shakespeare's contemporaries were.)
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Tuesday, October 26, 2004 07:36:28 PM
IP: 63.186.1.208

I wish Greg luck with his new project. I will have to make a point of downloading his episodes illegally off the internet.

As for the date, Disney might have the DVDs ready, but perhaps it'll take them longer to distribute them to the retailers?
Or maybe they didn't want it to compete with other Halloween-y stuff they're putting out in October?
CKayote - [CKayote@worldnet.att.net]
Orlando, FL
Tuesday, October 26, 2004 04:12:21 PM
IP: 64.192.78.171

Blaqthourne & Crimson Fury> Re: Cold Stone Ice Cream

Yeah, they have one wher I live. The workers sing a filk to the Flintstones theme when you fill the tip jar. Heh.
Leo
Tuesday, October 26, 2004 01:01:50 PM
IP: 68.231.241.236

Shara, if I didn't know any better, WITCH sounds like an anime version of Foxbox show the Winx club.
Matt Fews
Tuesday, October 26, 2004 08:14:50 AM
IP: 206.47.191.83

Lord Gargfan, there was a similar scenario in Tim Burton's Nightmare before Christmas.

"and what did Santa bring you, honey?"
and the kid holds up a disembodied head.

Matt Fews
Tuesday, October 26, 2004 08:12:22 AM
IP: 206.47.191.83

Never knew these existed. First one opened in Tempe, AZ in 1988 if you're wondering.
http://www.coldstonecreamery.com/main/index.asp
Blaqthourne & Crimson Fury
Tuesday, October 26, 2004 01:56:20 AM
IP: 4.230.255.23

Todd's post on Henry V> There is a great movie called "The Chronicle History of King Henry the fifth with his Battell at Agincourt in France (1944)." Also known as Henry the Fifth. Check it out!

That is all I will say.
Battle Beast
CanadaTuesday, October 26, 2004 12:06:51 AM
IP: 198.53.28.99

Todd Jensen>Re:The DVD In october. Disney could of had it out in october if they wanted. They had it out at comic con for viewing just not for sale for promotional use only.

As far as witch they handed us out the manga version of that which is where the cartoon came from. The storyline is good but the art is really bad. It just looks like britney spears wanna be WB charmed girls walking around who have witch powers hehe. If anyone wants I could scan some art from the promo thingy if your really interested in that show.

Shara - [jeanie54_2000@yahoo.com]
Monday, October 25, 2004 09:09:12 PM
IP: 209.179.250.66

SIREN - I understand what you mean. However, it's quite possible that Disney didn't think that it would be able to finish getting the DVD ready by Halloween, and had to choose December 7 to give itself more time.
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Monday, October 25, 2004 08:18:01 PM
IP: 63.186.1.111

Todd>I do wish it was released this month. Being the anniversary month and they mentioned it's 10th birthday on the DVD cover, which is misleading, as if December 7th was the 10th Anniversary. Also, I think October would have been a better month due to Halloween. Gargoyles isn't the holiday fare. The cover depicts something of a darker Batman or a tiny bit Spawn look. Just seems more fitting and it would get a better sale in October then in December. December of course has Christmas, but for theme wise, Gargoyles just fits better in with October. Too bad their Halloween episode (Eye of the Beholder) wasn't included on this release.

And of course I wish it was October rather then December because I could have owned it by now ;)
Siren
Monday, October 25, 2004 08:10:16 PM
IP: 24.165.226.120

If I have any misgivings about releasing the Gargoyles DVD on December 7, they stem from the original significance of that date, rather than not meeting the exact 10th anniversary.

(Speaking of historical anniversaries, today, October 25, also known as St. Crispin's Day, is the anniversary of the Battle of Agincourt, most famous victory of King Henry V of England, the original Harry Monmouth.)

From what I've read about W.I.T.C.H., I don't know about the prospect of gargoyles getting in, but faerie-folk are supposed (if I remember correctly) supposed to have a major role in it - though these are apparently going to be ones made up by the series rather than traditional legendary ones like Oberon, Titania, Puck, or Queen Mab.
Todd Jensen
St. Louis, MO
Monday, October 25, 2004 07:38:48 PM
IP: 63.186.1.111

Greg's done it again:

"No answer I can supply could live up to the hype."

Sure...

Any fanfics out there based on the whole "Titania whispering" thing in "The Gathering, pt. 2"?

And Happy Anniversary Gargoyles!

Let's eat, drink, and be merry!

But mostly eat.

And dream of the Gargoyles DVD.

Could you imagine if at Halloween, Disney, instead of candy, gave out Gargoyles ads...

Kid - Mommy! Look at what Disney gave me!
Mom - Gargoyles?! Do you want this? Okay!
Lord GargFan
Monday, October 25, 2004 06:59:56 PM
IP: 24.7.249.209

I don't think ANY gargoyles will make an appearence in W.I.T.C.H. I also find it hard to believe that there could be any reference to the gargoyles series per-say in the show. It doesn't have that kind of setting. :-) Though ....... I could always be wrong, I am a Castaway.
castaway, john
Monday, October 25, 2004 05:58:42 PM
IP: 204.128.192.5

I didn't mean to imply that Greg shouldn't have taken the W.I.T.C.H. job. I don't begrudge Greg getting a job. I'm happy for him.

As for the "neatokeen" things Greg has planned for W.I.T.C.H., I'd rather see neatokeen Gargoyles things.

I guess I should rephrase my question/comment. Let's say that come January, after the Christmas sales are added up, Disney says "We just sold a million-and-a-half Gargoyles DVD's. Let's bring the show back." At that point, could/would Greg drop W.I.T.C.H. and dive headfirst into a new Gargoyles project?

Let me say again that I'm happy for Greg and his new job. I've enjoyed many of the things he's done since Gargoyles. But (with no disrespect) I am more of a Garg fan than a Greg fan.
Phil - [p1anderson@go.com]
Monday, October 25, 2004 05:21:38 PM
IP: 134.215.241.133

Think of it this way Phil. Greg will be working on an active project for Disney, and along the way he'll be making friends. Whether or not they have any influence...I guess only time will tell. My point is, Greg has another chance to "strut his stuff" and I for one am happy he has a chance at it. This could easily be a very good opportunity because if Disney sees that Greg still has "the goods" then they'll be more apt to listen to what he has to say. Its simple business politics.
Vertigo1
TN, USA
Monday, October 25, 2004 03:27:20 PM
IP: 207.65.41.69

Remember Greg made a note on plans for "neatokeen stuff" he plans to put in the second season he is writing for. Since he put Demona in the mothballed "Team Atlantis" series, who's to say he won't put "Gargoyles" references in W.I.T.C.H.? I don't know what time period this series is in, so who knows? Maybe we'll see Oberon and his children make appearances (wouldn't it be great to have Brent Spiner and Kate Mulgrew reprise their roles of Puck and Titania, respectively?). I think the only direct Gargoyles reference Greg could get away with really is the Cold robots (Stone, Fire, and Steel), because Michael Dorn is pretty much a full-time voice actor now (I think the last thing he did was the R.E.G.I.S. robot on "MEGAS XLR"), and I'm sure he'd be willing to reprise the role of Coldstone again, if for no other reason than nostalgia.

Finally, for those of you who don't know, I'm 21 years old, 22 on Decemeber 9th. The reason I'm stating this is because I shocked members of my Corporation (it's an MMORPG clan thing) when I told them this. So, just laying down the facts on that matter.
Gantros
Monday, October 25, 2004 03:22:26 PM
IP: 24.20.243.55

Phil> Why couldn't he? It's not like he's been out of work since Gargoyles. He's worked on several series since then, for companies other than Disney. If anything, it's good that he's back at Disney because he might have more influence working "on the inside".
Vash
Monday, October 25, 2004 03:21:48 PM
IP: 129.98.125.57

Matt Fews>Besides us, the major Gargoyles fans, not many people know Gargoyles birthday. And the DVD isn't actually out. It was Greg who recommended December 7th as being the best day and he's been in this buisness. Greg knows best. Not to mention, Disney told him that would be the best day to buy and they are mega sales reps. I think Disney and Greg would know better more then anyone. And since Amazon is one of the few places taking pre-orders, that means you'd have to have internet access, an Amazon.com account, and the willingness to order it online. Less people have that then you think.
Siren
Monday, October 25, 2004 03:19:12 PM
IP: 24.165.226.120

Happee Anniversary, Goliath & co.

Now should have been a better time for a mass-purchasing of the DVD, not Dec. 7th.


Matt Fews
Monday, October 25, 2004 03:05:00 PM
IP: 206.47.191.83

Happy 10th Anniversary to "Gargoyles."

I was about to make the analogy "Can a person work at McDonald's and continue to eat at Burger King," but ABC Family and Disney are parts of the same company... so where is the conflict in Greg continuing to support "Gargoyles" while working on his new project? And hell no, I wasn't disappointed. Greg's got a family and he needs to work just like anyone else.

43 days left until the spell is broken and they live again! Gargoyles Season One comes to DVD on December 7, 2004!
Patrick
Monday, October 25, 2004 12:51:08 PM
IP: 66.93.14.153

Was anyone else disappointed to hear Greg's news about W.I.T.C.H.? Of course I'm happy for him and pleased that he has found a source of steady income, but that means he'll probably be less apt to push Gargoyles at what would seem to be a critical time.

Not only is the Gargoyles DVD a major milestone, but Disney Television Animation seems to be shifting its focus as well. There are fewer "kids in school" cartoons on now and more action/adventure shows like "Kim Possible" and "Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go!" (Those are, of course, still a long way from "Gargoyles" but they're closer than "Recess".)

Maybe someone who knows Greg or the animation industry better than I can comment. Can Greg continue to push for a new season of Gargoyles while he's working on W.I.T.C.H.?
Phil - [p1anderson@go.com]
Monday, October 25, 2004 11:56:16 AM
IP: 134.215.241.133

10
faieq
Monday, October 25, 2004 04:22:50 AM
IP: 195.10.45.200

9Th!
matt
Monday, October 25, 2004 04:22:15 AM
IP: 67.65.131.21

8th Forever!
Vinnie - [tpeano29@hotmail.com]
Marquette, Michigan, USA
Monday, October 25, 2004 03:31:53 AM
IP: 65.127.114.179

Lucky Number 7!
Draconis Mk IV
UK Monday, October 25, 2004 02:24:51 AM
IP: 83.100.155.223

6th!
Vertigo1
TN, USA
Monday, October 25, 2004 02:08:28 AM
IP: 207.65.41.112

5th in the name of . . two tests early Monday morning that are back to back.
DPH
AR, USA
Monday, October 25, 2004 01:50:57 AM
IP: 67.14.195.49

4th in the name of the Fay!

=)
Mooncat
Monday, October 25, 2004 01:46:44 AM
IP: 68.102.17.133

3rd!
Leo
Monday, October 25, 2004 12:37:52 AM
IP: 68.231.241.236

Second!

*peers into the future* I see....papers due, midterms and Halloween! Well at least there's fun waiting for me at the end of this new week. :)
Victoria
Monday, October 25, 2004 12:28:53 AM
IP: 24.126.137.116

FIRST!

Well, it's the dawn of a new Week. What does the future hold???

That is all I will say.
Battle Beast
GO SOX GO!!!, Canada
Monday, October 25, 2004 12:00:08 AM
IP: 198.53.28.99