Comment Room Archive : Gargoyles : Station Eight

I should probably introduce myself as well...

i am Tim
Ive been watching the Gargoyles since they first aired and have always enjoyed the stories, characters and animation. I am not much for comics so i am in the dark about the new comic string.

U can find me on MSN or AIM most of the time and i check my email at least once daily.

As far as Disney is concerned, As an employee I have had many experiences with the organization. If anything, i find that their biggest fault is that they often end things to soon and more recently, have been straying from the Movie formula that made them into geniuses. The art of hand animation coupled with hand backgrounds all put together via computer with an enthralling script and Music used as an intergral plot element performed by the characters themselves was genius and i wish they would return to that formula.

Feel free to drop me a line or ask me any questions. I wont be in here everyday but i will stop by probably weekly or so. so hit me up.

Aim- Force10seal
MSN- Same email as above.
Excalibur - [force5seal@comcast.net]
Tim
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 10:38:56 pm EDT from 69.253.4.65

WB Makhasu.

I for one am looking forward to discussing the Gargoyles comics here.

How are we going to do that, BTW? Are we going to wait until Thursdays to discuss the new issues? New comics come out on Wednesdays, usually, but my shop doesn't have them in until Thursdays. I can never discuss Transformers comics on the net, because on Wednesdays I can't go there for fear of spoilers and by Thursday evening when I actually have the comics, no one is interested in talking about them any more.
Stormy
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 9:00:24 pm EDT from 142.167.219.221

Hey, all...

Just popping in to introduce myself. I was a Gargoyles fan years ago, but my love for it was rekindled by the release of the DVDs last year. I'm a Mac 'n D fan in particular, and am working on creating what's probably the only new Gargoyles site in the last three years (depressing, ain't it?). I create music videos, fanart (one of which was accepted into The Grimorum Anthology), fanfics, etc...

I was pretty shocked to see how empty the CRs here and at TGS have become since I last treaded their paths. Hopefully, with the release of the comics, there'll be some new fans to breathe life into the online fandom.

BTW, is there any way to get a personal avatar added to the list? I make fairly professional avatars, and would like to be able to use a customized one. I could even make a couple dozen for other people to use as well in exchange.

Later.
Makhasu - [aknellthatsummonsthee@yahoo.com]
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 8:53:28 pm EDT from 66.74.220.146

Sorry for the double post...

Wait, there they are. At some point, I must have clicked "Hide Images" without realizing it. -_-

...as for the new avatars... I just... They're... They're... ummm...

For once, I'll heed my mother's advice, and not say anything at all.
Kythera of Anevern - [kythera (at) gmail.com]
I do not suffer fools, gladly or otherwise.
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 8:23:23 pm EDT from 24.126.11.109

O_o There are new avatars?

They don't load for me AT ALL as of sometime last week...
Kythera of Anevern - [kythera (at) gmail.com]
I do not suffer fools, gladly or otherwise.
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 8:21:03 pm EDT from 24.126.11.109

Asatira:

I live in B'ham, and for me to travel to Pigeon Forge... it's roughly 5 hours. Roughly the same amount of time it takes to drive to Nashvegas... err, Nashville. Hop on I-59 all the way... heh :\
Patricia Lovelady - [Patricia.Lovelady@gmail.com]
You mean the 2007 Gathering will be in the Redneck Alps!?
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 6:25:48 pm EDT from 71.82.7.207

Man, the new avatars look awesome to the extreme. I don't know if I should switch avatars. Ohhhhh, I hate it when I'm in these predicaments, it always hurts my brain.
Warcrafter - [grafixfangamer1@sbcglobal.net]
IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 3:06:02 pm EDT from 69.234.6.13

Nice avatars. :) Now if only there could be Lex and/or Brooklyn one(s).
King Cobra3 - [KingCobra_582@hotmail.com]
"Got it!" -Lexington, Awakening IV
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 2:57:12 pm EDT from 209.239.132.93

Hmmmm.... tempting as it is, I won't hop on the bandwagon just now... I'll wait and see what happens in the future.

But they do look nice.
Battle Beast - [Canada]
GO OILERS GO!!! GO OILERS GO!!! GO OILERS GO!!! GO OILERS GO!!! GO OILERS GO!!! GO OILERS GO!!! GO OILERS GO!!! GO OILERS GO!!! GO OILERS GO!!! ... ...
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 11:56:05 am EDT from 198.53.28.99

Sweet! New avatars! The Hudson one is awesome, I'm tempted to switch to it.
Matt - [Cape Girardeau, MIssouri, USA]
"I sometimes go to my own little world, but that's okay, they know me there." - Joel Hodgson
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 11:26:29 am EDT from 150.201.66.47

Yay! for new avatars.

B&CF > Amazon.com has a referal program that pays the con for every click-through that results in a purchase. Buy the DVD and support the con... it's win-win for everyone. :)

8 days left to reserve hotel rooms.
20 days left to pre-register for the convention.
40 days left until The Gathering 2006 in Valencia, California!
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2006]
"Would you eat them in a box? Would you eat them with a fox?" - Dr. Suess
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 10:18:45 am EDT from 68.250.129.27

Blaqthorne: Who knows? What is time? No matter. What is matter? Never mind.

Besides, what do I get if I win?
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"Does anyone have any aspirin? I think I'm coming down with a cold." -Jim Henson
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 9:17:31 am EDT from 69.174.3.196

I like the new Avatars, especially the Goliath one.
Chameleongirl - [<-- Come to the Gathering!]
Chameleon may change her spots, but she refuses to do plaid
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 2:33:59 am EDT from 202.87.162.31

and...
Greg Bishansky - [<---- The Tenth Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles]
Each year, the Rainforest is responsible for over three thousand deaths from accidents, attacks or illnesses. There are over seven hundred things in the Rainforest that cause cancer. Join the fight now and help stop the Rainforest before it's too late.
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 2:12:51 am EDT from 68.202.14.214

Let's see
Greg Bishansky - [<---- The Tenth Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles]
Each year, the Rainforest is responsible for over three thousand deaths from accidents, attacks or illnesses. There are over seven hundred things in the Rainforest that cause cancer. Join the fight now and help stop the Rainforest before it's too late.
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 2:12:28 am EDT from 68.202.14.214

Just a few things I keep forgetting to post about.

Greg's blather> It's obviously a "Green Eggs and Ham" exercise.

I've been curious as to why the only web retailer linked for the DVD is Amazon.

Harvester of Eyes> For how long do you think I've been posting here?
Blaqthourne & Crimson Fury
"Do you sometimes feel less than fresh? I know I do..." -- a cookie if you know the source of the quote
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 2:10:30 am EDT from 4.230.255.132

David Hedgecock, the artist for the new Gargoyles comic book from SLG, has been very cool and passed along some avatars to add to the comment room. You'll find them at the end of the avatar drop-down menu with the prefix "SLG".

You see the Hudson avatar attached here, there is also a Demona and Goliath avatar as well. Very cool.

I've finally taken care of getting my plane tickets and reserving a room for the Gathering. Full speed ahead and almost a month away. The list of guests at this year's con is unbelievable and I'm really looking forward to attending.

And to the TGS folks, apologies for being slow on getting some updates to the TGS CR. I did get the goods via e-mail, it will be going up asap, probably tomorrow afternoon once I'm back from treating mom to lunch.
Gorebash - [gorebash@s8.org]
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 1:49:45 am EDT from 71.243.44.56

I just realized that when I made my little quip last week about my interpretation to Greg's rambling, I forgot that Patrick was already fond of saying the same thing about "To Serve Mankind." Sorry about that.

Reno: They edit out the gorgeous shot of Elisa bleeding on her kitchen floor, but yeah, they've been showing it. Thank heaven the DVDs are uncut. There are a few more things I noticed that I think were edited out of the Toon Disney airings. When I watched "Shadows of the Past" on my DVD, I had forgotten about Goliath seeing the picture of himself smashing the statues of his clan. I don't think that on the T-D airing, we got to see what he saw. One of the many reasons I'm hoping we see Volume 2 (again, Johnny, keyword there is "hoping"). I miss Fang's "kinky!" remark in "The Reckoning."

Well, I just got some good news. In a sense. I knew that if we kept bitching, Lucasfilm would do something to shut us up. On the one hand, I hate giving George Lucas my money, but on the other hand, my Widescreen VHS tapes are going to fall apart someday. Nature of the beast, then.

http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/release/video/news20060503.html
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"Does anyone have any aspirin? I think I'm coming down with a cold." -Jim Henson
posted @ Sun, May 14, 2006 1:00:18 am EDT from 69.174.3.196

Reno : They've been showing it since the Gargoyles marathon back in '02.
Spen
"Why do people always use sport's metephores when they want you to do something stupid?" - David Swaine
posted @ Sat, May 13, 2006 5:39:52 pm EDT from 216.248.119.208

HoE: *in a Charleton Heston voice* Get your stinking hand off me you damn dirty Egon Pax! Seriously though, does T-D even show that ep anymore? It's...horrible doesn't go far enough. Though I did notice they play Deadly Force now, have they for some time? Because I thought they didn't show it because, well, Elisa gets shot and that's a T-D no-no.
Reno
I see you've playe knifey-spooney before.
posted @ Sat, May 13, 2006 4:56:58 pm EDT from 24.205.105.243

HoE> fifth grade?
King Cobra3 - [KingCobra_582@hotmail.com]
"Got it!" -Lexington, Awakening IV
posted @ Sat, May 13, 2006 2:08:11 pm EDT from 209.239.132.72

Patrick: Hopefully, it tells one how to cook that damn dirty Egon Pax.

King Cobra: DTaina showed them to me last night. I don't know whether to thank her or punch her. I mean, on the one hand, you can choose your cliche (be it knowledge is power or those who forget history). But on the other hand, just like fifth grade, I have to live with it in my mind now.

Anyway, if you ask her, I'm sure she'll e-mail them.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"I'm a three-line whip, I'm the sort of thing they ban, I'm a walking disaster, I'm a demolition man..." -The Police ("Ghost In the Machine")
posted @ Sat, May 13, 2006 11:43:29 am EDT from 69.174.3.196

Just a heads-up to anyone who might be headed to A-kon (http://www.a-kon.com/) in Dallas, June 9-11 --- I'm co-hosting an A-kon Devmeet on both Friday, June 9th 3-4 pm and on Sunday, June 11th 2-3 pm. It's open to anyone who happens to be on Deviant Art and to anyone who would like to be.

Hope to see you there!
Spike
posted @ Sat, May 13, 2006 10:15:49 am EDT from 70.251.81.241

Greg stops by here from time to time.

Re: "To Serve Mankind" - "It's a cookbook! A COOKBOOK!!!"

9 days left to reserve hotel rooms.
21 days left to pre-register for the convention.
41 days left until The Gathering 2006 in Valencia, California!
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2006]
"Nobody, but NOBODY eats the Simpsons!" - Homer, "Hungry are the Damned" (Treehouse of Horror)
posted @ Sat, May 13, 2006 7:32:09 am EDT from 68.250.129.27

does anyone know if greg still accesses this site?
Excalibur - [force5seal@comcast.net]
Tim
posted @ Sat, May 13, 2006 2:54:37 am EDT from 69.253.4.65

Realize that Australia was responsible for some Aladdin episodes and the Direct to Videos (as well as other cartoons) so because of this, "Seeing..." was very cartoony in style, but I loved the animation regardless due to some really nice touches they did. Also, the two studios that did the bulk of TGC never animated a Disney show before let alone Gargoyles and they had a short amount of time to turn them around. Lastly, the last episode will never be fixed even though major retakes were done. I get a big kick out seeing the two cops escort myself (Castaway) into the helicopter spot light only to disappear. Gotta' Go TTFN
Castaway, John Castaway
posted @ Sat, May 13, 2006 1:56:22 am EDT from 69.234.121.176

HoE> I second that comment.

Jurgan> Congrats. We'll see ya there.
kingcobra_582 - [KingCobra_582@hotmail.com]
King Cobra3
posted @ Sat, May 13, 2006 1:37:44 am EDT from 209.239.132.93

Patrick > Thanks for that. I really do appreciate any help you can give me.
Chameleongirl - [<-- Come to the Gathering!]
Chameleon may change her spots, but she refuses to do plaid
posted @ Sat, May 13, 2006 12:56:37 am EDT from 202.87.162.31

I actually thought the plot of "Seeing isn't Believing" was okay. If only the animation wasn't so awful. And yes, "To Serve Mankind" was the episode that introduced he-who-must-not-be-named.

Now, for the big news: I'm now officially going to The Gathering! Weeeeeeeee! I'm still not entirely sure how I'm going to afford it, but I've got the registration, the plane tickets, and the hotel reservations, so I can't back out now. Yahoo!
Jurgan - [jurgan6@yahoo.com]
posted @ Sat, May 13, 2006 12:43:02 am EDT from 68.59.43.150

Guandalug> At least he had fun with it! Now I can ease up a little on it -- it's not like he had multiple episodes animating Elisa. It's been so long since I've seen that episode, I can't even remember if there was anything good about it other than Proteus again. And, what happened in "To Serve Mankind?" Is that the one with E-- P--?
Asatira
posted @ Fri, May 12, 2006 11:44:22 pm EDT from 68.117.246.81

D. Taina: <That's too bad; I was hoping they'd make that reporter's head stay on and Goliath's talon turn to stone with him...>

WHAAAAAAA? Oh, man, if you have screenshots of that, PLEASE let me know.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"I'm a three-line whip, I'm the sort of thing they ban, I'm a walking disaster, I'm a demolition man..." -The Police ("Ghost In the Machine")
posted @ Fri, May 12, 2006 9:02:38 pm EDT from 69.174.3.196

Notwithstanding Jasminelisa and the contorted look goliath made when Proteus/Elisa was acting slinky towards him in the ep. I did like the flowing animation in the episode copaired to the the rest of the rushed animation Nelvana had given us in the previous 11 episodes. Just remembering the flowing movement of the piece of paper Elisa picked up off of her car seat - I thought overall it was pretty cool. Sure the characters were off model, but it was still interesting to see. And then there was the Elisa/Goliath Hug ^_^
Wingless
posted @ Fri, May 12, 2006 8:30:04 pm EDT from 70.27.173.142

D. Taina> "And watch To Serve Mankind?! I'd rather hold cold water on the tooth, which was sensitive because the filling had fallen off, and experience excruciating pain before watching that ABOMINATION AGAIN! :P Just... eee! Never again! Never again!!"

Ah, so you hated the episode then? :P

"I was planning to put together a section on my site with all the bloopers in Gargoyles, especially in the Goliath Chronicles (I will show NO MERCY), once classes are over. So don't worry, you'll see the list of bloopers, and their screenshots, eventually. ;) So yeah, watch out for that!"

Will do. URL, please?
kingcobra_582 - [KingCobra_582@hotmail.com]
King Cobra3
posted @ Fri, May 12, 2006 7:17:37 pm EDT from 209.239.132.230

Jasminelisa was only the most glaring example of the complete inconsistency of the animation in TGC from one episode to the next. I had issues with that CGI intro they added, too. It totally did not mesh with the style of the show.

Chameleongirl > For Gathering 2001, the total attendance recorded was 375, including guests, give or take a few. I'd have to do some digging to come up with numbers for the other conventions.

10 days left to reserve hotel rooms.
22 days left to pre-register for the convention.
42 days left until The Gathering 2006 in Valencia, California!
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2006]
"I hate every ape I see, from chimpan-a to chimpan-zee." - Troy McClure, "Planet of the Apes: The Musical"
posted @ Fri, May 12, 2006 5:49:46 pm EDT from 68.250.129.27

Harvester: Heh heh, I never made a list of the animation errors in TGC, but I have them all in my head. Most of them were corrected for later viewings, but the retakes don't air on Toon Disney, and, for some reason, Angels in the Night doesn't have any retakes. That's too bad; I was hoping they'd make that reporter's head stay on and Goliath's talon turn to stone with him...

I was planning to put together a section on my site with all the bloopers in Gargoyles, especially in the Goliath Chronicles (I will show NO MERCY), once classes are over. So don't worry, you'll see the list of bloopers, and their screenshots, eventually. ;) So yeah, watch out for that!

And watch To Serve Mankind?! I'd rather hold cold water on the tooth, which was sensitive because the filling had fallen off, and experience excruciating pain before watching that ABOMINATION AGAIN! :P Just... eee! Never again! Never again!!
D. Taina - [<-- Gargoyles Imagery Resource]
"Orday rewindum tapus!" - The Heroes Awaken Game
posted @ Fri, May 12, 2006 2:56:15 pm EDT from 172.130.132.158

Guandalug la'Fay - I would appreciate getting an email response from you to an email that I sent over a week ago about an addition to the gfw website.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happenned to simplicity? Looking for a roommate for the gathering.
posted @ Fri, May 12, 2006 1:01:23 pm EDT from 63.232.250.129

Jasminelisa: hah, I've read that little snippet by the animator before. We can't really blame the animators as it seems they didn't have much time to take reference from the show-especially from "Seeing isn't Believing"

I think that ep is animated very well aside from the fact that the characters are off.
Purplegoldfish - [skydragonn@aol.com]
Pimpin' my DA gallery
posted @ Fri, May 12, 2006 11:45:44 am EDT from 152.163.100.14

Regarding JasmineElisa .... I actually received an email about THAT by Jozef Szekeres, the animator of Elisa in that "Seeing isn't believing" episode..... click my link or go to the review section of the GFW and see for yourself.
Guandalug la'Fay - [guandalug@gargoyles-fans.org]
It has been said that the world is a strange place. This is not true. The world is a VERY strange place.
posted @ Fri, May 12, 2006 8:37:16 am EDT from 80.145.2.21

I think DTaina's got a list of animation slip-ups perpetrated by the Goliath Chronicles. True, the first 65 episodes were not without their faux pas, but at least they still looked good. Did anyone else think the "stone" gargoyles in the Goliath Chronicles looked ridiculous? If she wants to point any more things out, I'll let her. She knows those episodes better than me. Speaking of which, if your tooth still aches, Taina, why not watch "To Serve Mankind" or "A Bronx Tail"? That'll take your mind off the pain. I hear the CIA uses them during training, to help their operatives build up a resistance to torture.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"There's just one chance to get away. I'll catch up with you another day. Close my eyes and count to ten, and come right after you again." -Ian Anderson.
posted @ Fri, May 12, 2006 6:12:11 am EDT from 69.174.3.196

JasmineElisa :lol: geez, what is she? some Jasmine-Jessica Rabbit-Miranda Wright expriment gone wrong? :eek: guess Lil Antom wasn't the only creation Sevarius was working on :p
Starlioness
posted @ Fri, May 12, 2006 1:25:23 am EDT from 70.58.67.109

Can anyone here help me with a school project?

I need to find out what the Gathering attendence figures were, for as many years as possible.

If you can help me out I'd be really greatful :D
Chameleongirl - [chameleongirl79@yahoo.com]
posted @ Fri, May 12, 2006 12:43:35 am EDT from 210.15.242.68

"Jasminelisa" that's the ONE THING that MOST bothered me about psuedo season 3. I AHTED that elisa. *Shudders*
Battle Beast - [Canada]
GO OILERS GO
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 8:56:26 pm EDT from 198.53.28.99

Matt: Happy Birthday! Don't do anything I wouldn't do. Or would, for that matter. Unless you see a corpse, in which case... I think we all know the rest. ( ;

Warcrafter: Can't say I'm familiar with the game, but I hope for your sake that they do it justice. Generally, movies based on video games only have the potential to be good for the people who like the game. I myself loved "Silent Hill," but anyone who had never played the game would have been scratching their heads (and possibly vomiting towards the end, when the gore got really disturbing; I myself wasn't bothered, simply because graphic and disturbing imagery is a part of the "Silent Hill" series, and so would have been disappointed had it been toned down). Do you know who'll be directing "Warcraft"?

Reno: In the end, both endings suck, but the ending we saw was still much better than the ending they would have done, had Greg not headed them off at the pass.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"I've got contacts in my book and in my eyes. My good connection on the telephone never lies." -The Police (Regatta De Blanc).
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 8:50:00 pm EDT from 69.174.3.196

Warcrafter> Aye, I knew about the movie, too:) Just wanted to show the garg fans that garg-like critters are out there in force and gaining number lol. Not that some of us don't PLAY WoW:)... Just not everyone. And this is a garg comment room.
Jade Griffin
Weee! Foood!
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 8:43:02 pm EDT from 71.83.112.202

Happy birthday, Matt!

Patrick> I'm glad someone else noted that Elisa looked like Jasmine in "Seeing...". Gods, I hated that episode solely because of that!
Asatira
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 8:24:40 pm EDT from 68.117.246.81

So it was the Australian animators who are responsible for Jasminelisa in the "Seeing..." episode of TGC? Crikey!

11 days left to reserve hotel rooms.
23 days left to pre-register for the convention.
43 days left until The Gathering 2006 in Valencia, California!
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2006]
"I'm working on an unauthorized autobiography. When it's done, I'm going to sue myself." - Stephen Wright
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 5:40:50 pm EDT from 70.229.220.6

Happy Birthday Matt!! I'll be 24 in a few months. Feel any different ;)

Gathering 07'-I'm glad there is a gathering next year, though I had little doubt. There's so many dedicated fans who would do anything to keep this thing going :)

Gathering '07- Tennessee's pretty far, but not nearly as far as LA. I will certainly make it my goal this year to attend it. I'm determined now, lol. *goes in search for a job*
Purplegoldfish - [skydragonn@aol.com]
Pimpin' my DA gallery
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 12:48:46 pm EDT from 64.12.116.8

Patrick -- good point. It had the dealer fooled, though (me too, of course :) ). I'm just happy to have the copies on order, and on their way.
Ellen
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 8:50:46 am EDT from 64.12.116.8

MATT - Yep, it's true; I live in the Central West End.
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 7:29:54 am EDT from 4.244.208.130

*Eyes the change to her post options*
Posting in the Chat room alters our cookie?
Was wondering why I had to retype my sig and link.
Chameleongirl - [<-- Come to the Gathering!]
Chameleon may change her spots, but she refuses to do plaid
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 3:42:03 am EDT from 202.87.162.31

Harvester > I own pretty much everything listed in that Heinlein bibliography (cost me a pretty penny too ^_^)

His short space adventures are always a fun read, but my favourite short has got to be 'The Man Who Travelled In Elephants'.

If you're looking to start with one of his novels, you can't go past 'The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress'.
Chameleongirl - [<-- Come to the Gathering!]
Chameleon may change her spots, but she refuses to do plaid
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 3:39:30 am EDT from 202.87.162.31

Happy Belated Birthday, Matt.
Battle Beast - [Canada]
GO OILERS GO
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 2:25:32 am EDT from 198.53.28.99

Hello all. I thouhgt I'd make a little comment while I'm up... watching the hockey hockey game... 2-2 in the THIRD OVERTIME PERIOD... it's 12:30 Mountain 2:30 EST...

I'm dead tired but the game is so intense... my heart is racing...

ARGH.
Battle Beast - [Canada]
GO OILERS GO
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 2:24:17 am EDT from 198.53.28.99

Castaway: My goodness you're right, sorry to the folks in OZ for the mistype...I was actually thinking that Angels in the Night was beautiful as well, but I just can't stand the happy-go-lucky ending. So, sorries for that and good show. (even if the script was, well, I'll just say I didn't think it was all that great) Is the studio in Australia still open?
Reno
Yeah, use the force Lex...
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 2:21:00 am EDT from 24.205.105.243

I'm 24.

Don't worry about the plan tickets, just joking of course. In fact, it'd be hard to get away from my job to go at this point anyway. I'm starting as a zookeeper at the St Louis Zoo in a couple weeks. Hey Todd, I don't think I told you, I'm moving to the CWE, isn't that where you live? I think of all the regular posters in here, you and I may be the two that live the closest!
Matt - [Cape Girardeau, MIssouri, USA]
"I sometimes go to my own little world, but that's okay, they know me there." - Joel Hodgson
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 2:04:09 am EDT from 150.201.66.47

Happy Birthday Matt *leaves you a cake* not sure how many candles to put on it though.

Can't help with the plane tickets unfortunatly...but if someone's willing to go the distance for you, I'd take a set very greatfully ^_~
Wingless
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 1:58:31 am EDT from 70.27.173.142

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MATT!!!!!!! So, how many times do I have to sock you. Im just kidding....or am I. I would pay for your plane tickets but im having trouble paying for rooms as it is. How about a hug *Hugs Matt and gives him a complementary punch in the chest for good measures*
Warcrafter - [grafixfangamer1@sbcglobal.net]
IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 1:30:11 am EDT from 69.234.6.13

Well, today is my birthday. Anyone want to buy me some plane tickets for the Gathering '06?
Matt - [Cape Girardeau, MIssouri, USA]
"I sometimes go to my own little world, but that's okay, they know me there." - Joel Hodgson
posted @ Thu, May 11, 2006 1:25:43 am EDT from 150.201.66.47

There is something else you forgot to announce Jade. In today's paper of the Orange County Register, there was an article about an upcomming live- action movie based on the highly popular "Warcraft" series. And with me being a huge "Warcraft/World of Warcraft" fan (Tiss my name being Warcrafter) and can't wait for it to be in theaters.
Warcrafter - [grafixfangamer1@sbcglobal.net]
IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted @ Wed, May 10, 2006 11:54:02 pm EDT from 69.234.6.13

Reno, I'd like to give props where props are do: "Seeing Isn't Believing" was done by Walt Disney Animation Australia, "Angels in the Night" was done by Walt Disney Animation Japan. The latter show still airs without retakes :-)
Castaway, John Castaway
posted @ Wed, May 10, 2006 11:49:43 pm EDT from 69.234.153.160

Just a quick announcement. For those who play World of Warcraft, there appear to be a new Alliance race announcement that resemble gargoyles without wings. Wee!!:) Just check out www.worldofwarcraft.com for more info
Jade Griffin
Weee! Foood!
posted @ Wed, May 10, 2006 9:58:50 pm EDT from 71.83.112.202

"Backorder" may just indicate that there's no stock available - in this case because the comic has not yet been released. It probably has not gone to print yet. They won't print it until they're ready to ship it. Stockpiling stuff in a warehouse for weeks on end costs money.

And here's hoping Greg or the guys from SLG have some advance copies of the comic on hand at The Gathering 2006.

12 days left to reserve hotel rooms.
24 days left to pre-register for the convention.
44 days left until The Gathering 2006 in Valencia, California!
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2006]
"Look, you're British, so scale it down a bit." - Eddie Izzard
posted @ Wed, May 10, 2006 5:26:34 pm EDT from 70.229.220.6

I finally got over to the local comic store to order a few copies of the Gargoyles comic. While there, I learned that Slave Labor Graphics is listed in the preview catalogues under the name "Amaze Ink." (I was getting concerned when the dealer kept looking for Slave Labor/SLG under "S" and coming up empty.) So, in the event anyone's retailer is having trouble finding the listing for the Gargs comic, that's where to look. The catalogue also confirmed the release date as June 28 (I saw it printed on the page myself, in black and white).

Now, here's what I think is the best part. When the dealer entered the ordering information into the computer, the message came up, "Backorder Only." The first print run has sold out! I don't care if I have to wait forever and a day for my copies; I was thrilled to hear that news.
Ellen
posted @ Wed, May 10, 2006 3:23:40 pm EDT from 152.163.100.14

GREGARIUS - Sorry about giving the wrong impression about "All You Zombies"; I should have proofread last evening's post a little more carefully to make it clear that it was a short story by Heinlein, rather than inaccurately suggesting that it was a novel.
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Wed, May 10, 2006 7:27:03 am EDT from 4.244.209.97

And Reno: I'm not so sure about the out-acting Sevarius thing. Sevarius's bitching and moaning seemed out-of-place. It's not like he was Thailog's slave or anything. As we saw in "The Reckoning," he was being paid pretty damn good. Which made Sevarius's desire to kill him seem more like a case of Saturday-morning-villain-itis.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
posted @ Wed, May 10, 2006 6:53:05 am EDT from 69.174.3.196

Ahhhh, "Go, Dog, Go." The gripping tale of the immortal struggle between canines, automobiles, and finding just the right party hat.

I recently did a search on Robert Heinlein (the link contains a bibliography). Are there any more stories off the list that anyone more familiar with him might recommend? I don't know when I'll get around to purchasing some. After I finish "The Game Players of Titan," I'm taking a break from Philip K. Dick to read Tolkien's "Unfinished Tales," and I'd also like to finally get around to the other six Chronicles of Narnia. But I'm always looking for new stuff to go on the list.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"But I believe in this and it's been tested by research. He who [Egon Pax]es nuns will later join the church!" -The only band that really matters.
posted @ Wed, May 10, 2006 6:47:44 am EDT from 69.174.3.196

Gorebash: Just giving you a head's up to inform you that I sent you an email (well two, actually, since I wasn't certain if the first got to you) regarding a TGS CR update. Please let me know if you haven't received my email(s) and if you need any additional information. (My email address is: lm at mysticstorm dot com.) Thank you!!! :)
Lady Mystic
Admin of TGS CR Information
posted @ Wed, May 10, 2006 6:10:35 am EDT from 68.73.11.95

Robert Heinlein - Isecond the motion. Everyone should read him at least once in their life :D

"All You Zombies" is one of my favourite of his shorts storys :)
Chameleongirl - [<-- Come to the Gathering!]
Chameleon may change her spots, but she refuses to do plaid
posted @ Wed, May 10, 2006 5:43:19 am EDT from 202.87.162.31

I'm gonna throw my name out as someone who is also looking for a roommate. I would prefer someone who has already booked a room and is looking for another roommie. I'm also planning on being in LA Thursday night (and possibly Wed. night) and Monday night. Email me if interested.
Blaqthourne & Crimson Fury - [qrimson_fury@yahoo.com]
"I'm with crazy!" "That biography was unauthorized."
posted @ Wed, May 10, 2006 3:38:31 am EDT from 4.230.255.11

Greg Bishansky > Wouldn't it stain the skin through the stone? Anyway, it was kind of a joke...
Battle Beast - [Canada]
that is all I will say.
posted @ Wed, May 10, 2006 2:08:53 am EDT from 198.53.28.99

Dragomir: yeah, he's neat that way. He tricked Xanatos and got his freedom (and some cold hard cash) he stabbed Demona in the back with her own plan (and got some cold hard cash...I assume) and he out-acted Sevarious. (And saved some cold hard cash) He's actually my favorite antagonist of the gargoyles, because he's just so...cool.

HoE: Alive, sure, but he's still got one heck of a headache from not having any depth perception for all these years...
Reno
Yeah, use the force Lex...
posted @ Wed, May 10, 2006 1:40:29 am EDT from 24.205.105.243

All You Zombies>> I know of the short story, but not of any novels entitled "All You Zombies."

Anyhow, "All You Zombies" can be found in the volume _The Fantasies of Robert A. Heinlein_. Why not check your local library for it the next time you go?
JJ Gregarius
Like the man said, "There are no problems; only solutions!"
posted @ Wed, May 10, 2006 12:40:50 am EDT from 4.247.131.1

Next years gathering is at Pigeon Forge huh. Well, im just happy that there IS a gathering next year.

Room Rates> Does anyone know if the hyatt hotel room prices shown on the gathering website is the gathering group rate? If it isn't, can anyone tell me what the price will be on the gathering group rate?
Warcrafter - [grafixfangamer1@sbcglobal.net]
IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted @ Wed, May 10, 2006 12:40:22 am EDT from 69.234.6.13

Yea, I'm finally finished writing my summary of The Green for the gfw. All I have to do is type it and email it. Hopefully I can finish that by the end of this week.

Guandalug la'Fay - I sent an email last week about another possible addition to the gfw by me. I would like to receive a reply. If you lost that email, I still have a reply.

h.o.e. - <Guandalug: Speaking of synopses, did you get my e-mail a few weeks ago?> Just out of curiosity, was that a reference to you sending the synopsis for "Ill Met by Moonlight" to Guandalug? I'm just curious because that will leave it down to Renee, Bard, and Demona Taina to finish their stuff for the gfw for things to be completed.
dph_of_rules
Whatever happenned to simplicity? Looking for a roommate for the gathering.
posted @ Wed, May 10, 2006 12:39:04 am EDT from 63.232.248.94

Asatira - Gatlinburg is just up the road from Pigeon Forge, so depending on which side you're coming from, it's either just a little more time or a little less time from that. Give or take about 15 minutes between the two. So yeah. Just a liiittle bit of a difference.

Crzy, Kyt, & Chameleongirl (And everyone else giving congrats, while I'm at it..)- Thanky! :)
Y2Hecate - [y2hecate@gmail.com]
Shh. You can't see me.
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 10:08:51 pm EDT from 172.163.178.208

Todd> I am familiar with the first two, if not read them. I started "Le Morte" but couldn't finish it. To be honest, I barely started it. It's what a friend calls a book to own in order to finish type of book. I have read White's series, but I can't recall "The Book of Merlyn." I do know I loved the first two at least. Read "The Crystal Cave," but none of the others, and I'm told they aren't quite as good as the first. "Wicked day" sounds interesting. Saving the list.
Asatira
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 8:33:30 pm EDT from 68.117.246.81

ASATIRA - Well, I remember the Arthurian books that Greg Weisman's listed as having read (I know that he had a similar list of detective books, but I can't remember its contents at the moment, other than that I'm certain that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was on it). That would be:

Geoffrey of Monmouth's "History of the Kings of Britain" (the earliest extant start-to-finish account of Arthur's story, though missing many familiar elements; Merlin drops out of the story just before Arthur's birth, there's no Sword in the Stone, no Lancelot, no mention of the Round Table, the Quest of the Holy Grail, or Camelot, etc.)

Sir Thomas Malory's "Le Morte d'Arthur (the traditional big Arthurian work, though Greg's admitted to not being that fond of it).

T. H. White (his works being "The Sword in the Stone", "The Once and Future King", and "The Book of Merlyn" - Greg especially likes the scene with Arthur and the hedgehog in the last one).

Mary Stewart (author of the Merlin Trilogy, "The Crystal Cave", "The Hollow Hills", and "The Last Enchantment" - plus a sequel to it, "The Wicked Day", which does for Mordred almost what "City of Stone" did for Macbeth).

John Steinbeck's "The Acts of King Arthur and his Noble Knights" (an unfinished retelling of Malory which gradually becomes more detailed; if you read nothing else in it, read Steinbeck's letters to a couple of his friends about the Arthurian legend and Malory - they're a true delight).

Roger Lancelyn Green's "King Arthur and his Knights of the Round Table" (a retelling for young readers, which Greg has made one of his primary sources for the Gargoyles Universe take on King Arthur; it's the source, in particular, for his take on Percival and Blanchefleur).

Thomas Berger's "Arthur Rex" (a rather interesting Arthurian novel, covering his story start-to-finish - but be warned, that it's very adult - "adult" as in "Christine Morgan fanfiction").

Norma Lorre Goodrich (a non-fiction writer on King Arthur, who attempts - not especially convincingly, IMO - to locate the entire story in southern Scotland - which, admittedly, might be appropriate from a "Gargoyles" perspective).

Other books that I remember Greg Weisman having read are several by Robert Heinlein (including "All You Zombies" - a true timeloop case), some by William Faulkner (whose Yoknapatawpha County was an influence for the "universe of characters" tone of "Gargoyles), "The Hobbit", "Go! Dog! Go!" (a book for beginning readers), Tom Stoppard's "Arcadia", books on Greek and Norse mythology by the d'Aulaires, and, of course, William Shakespeare.
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 6:55:42 pm EDT from 4.245.20.79

Well, I'd been wondering when someone would make a parallel between my name and Odin. Damn, that took a while. But Odin is still alive, so I can't touch him.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"When angels are forced to leave heaven, they become devils. You agree, don't you, Spike?" -Vicious.
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 5:30:59 pm EDT from 69.174.3.196

Hecate - I'm so glad you stepped up to bat on the Convention. I'm really looking forward to seeing you make some magic! I'm also very flattered that you've asked some of G2006's survivors to join you. I have faith in you, girl!

::MUCHO LUVS::
Jennifer "CrzyDemona" Anderson - [<--- Gathering of the Gargoyles]
"We lived innocently as children... but like all children, we grew up" -- The Magus
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 5:12:59 pm EDT from 71.133.212.66

Stone skin explodes off them, they wouldn't be covered in bird droppings
Greg Bishansky - [<---- The Tenth Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles]
Each year, the Rainforest is responsible for over three thousand deaths from accidents, attacks or illnesses. There are over seven hundred things in the Rainforest that cause cancer. Join the fight now and help stop the Rainforest before it's too late.
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 5:06:29 pm EDT from 68.202.14.214

G07> I'm 80% sure my partner and I can go. It's only about a day or two of driving from where we live, if that.

Pigeon> Why do I have this weird mental image of Pre-Mirror Demona waking up covered in bird droppings? :P
King Cobra3 - [KingCobra_582@hotmail.com]
"Got it!" -Lexington, Awakening IV
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 4:50:22 pm EDT from 209.239.132.7

Waking up covered with Pigeon dropping stains every night...lovely. Probably why gargoyles roost so high up away from the range at which pigeons can go.
Dragomir
"Don't hate me because I'm devious," Demona cues as she strikes an enticing pose for her adoring fans!
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 4:05:07 pm EDT from 71.192.76.212

Well, I need to check, but I doubt it's more of a drive from where I live than Gatlinburg or Nashville. So, I'll most likely make it (I don't know what my plans will be in a year, so I may or may not be in the area at that time). Still, it should be fun.

Off topic: can anyone point to me a list (I think there were more than one) of books that Greg was influenced by? I was just thinking about how I enjoyed the books in our short lived book club, and I'd like to read some more. I know they're somewhere in the "Inspirations" archive, but there are a lot of inspirations to go through and "book club" brought up nada.
Asatira
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 2:26:28 pm EDT from 24.214.68.215

I wonder, Do pidgeon droppings stain Gargoyle's stone skin?
Battle Beast - [Canada]
that is all I will say.
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 12:04:15 pm EDT from 198.53.28.99

I think there are things to do in pretty much any place--the change is going to be the nature of the attractions. If NYC has famous landmarks and Vegas has casinos, Pigeon Forge might well have nature trails or some such.

The point of the Gathering is 1. to get together for the Con thing and 2. to visit a place you might otherwise never have gone to see.
Stormy
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 12:02:30 pm EDT from 142.167.217.222

Pigeons in the Forge! - For the record, I don't think there are many (if any) pigeons in Pigeon Forge. They released a bunch of hawks and falcolns, because the pigeons were destroying stuff. Originally the town was named for the Little Pigeon River, and a forge that Isaac Love built. And the river was named after the huge flocks of Passenger Pigeons that would hang around 'cause of the Beech Trees.
But I hear Passenger Pigeons are now extinct. So I don't think any gargoyles have to worry about them around here.

Chameleongirl - Kyt might not.. but I'll make you wear a Dolly wig if I can find one.
Y2Hecate - [y2hecate@gmail.com]
Masochist.. I mean.. 2007 con-chair.
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 11:11:57 am EDT from 65.41.165.200

Chameleongirl-- Dolly wig?? And you're calling ME the dork? **Snickers** No, but I will drag you along with me. **Stuffs Chameleongirl in her pocket and sneaks off with her** ;D
Kythera of Anevern - [kythera (at) gmail.com]
I do not suffer fools, gladly or otherwise.
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 10:41:44 am EDT from 24.126.11.109

Harvester> I love how Thailog was bad to the very end as well, even though I hate how he and the clones end up as green sore covered statues in the end (don't think genetic engineering works that way, even when botched up). I liked the idea of a super clone, but that Anton monster was just dumb looking and he shouldn't have had Demona's hair or coloration because she wasn't there to contribute her DNA to the creature (pretty sure Sevarius used up her DNA to make Delilah for Thailog). I thought Thailog's remote controlled jet powered gun was cool as well, and I enjoyed his final line, "Farewell Goliath, how I enjoyed making you suffer." Though I don't know if Sevarius would really mourn over yet another lost test subject, he's pretty heartless and much more likely to simply run away while his enemies were busy.

Reno> thailog's a jerk alright, but its okay in his case (he's like Lex Luthor or The Joker, he's the bad guy you love to hate). Plus you to admire how he's outwitted nearly every other major villain on the show, despite only being a recurring baddie (still hope Demona kicks his butt again if he ever returns, I liked them as a couple, back stabbing creep...). I too hate how the relationship between Demona and Angela was handled, lets hope it improves in the comics. (:
Dragomir
"Okay, okay, I'm going to count to three and when I open my eye I expect the guilty party who stole my other eye to step forward," declares Odin as he shuts his one good eyeball. Harvester and Puck smile mischievously as they quickly push a startled Raven forward.
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 9:45:55 am EDT from 134.241.91.237

Heccy!! go you!!
I will definitely *definitely* be trying my hardest to get there next year :D (Kyt wil kill me if I miss another one 0_0)

The town has a pop of ~5000? Damn, it'll be just like home but without the ocean :D

And Kyt? Dork.
Dooooooork :P
(You're gonna make me wear a Dolly wig, aren't you? ^_^)
Chameleongirl - [<-- Come to the Gathering!]
Chameleon may change her spots, but she refuses to do plaid
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 9:20:04 am EDT from 202.87.162.31

I'm told they don't actually forge pigeons in Pigeon Forge. NYC is still the main breeding ground.

G2007 would be about an eight-hour drive for me if I do it by car. And Cincinnatti is just over midway for a nice stopover point.

G2008: Baghdad? Iraq and roll, baby! Yo, this con's gonna be da bomb. :P

13 days left to reserve hotel rooms.
25 days left to pre-register for the convention.
45 days left until The Gathering 2006 in Valencia, California!
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2006]
"Get on the plane? Screw you, I'm getting IN the plane." - George Carlin
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 8:48:55 am EDT from 24.106.128.24

Speaking of pigeons, I've sometimes wondered just how seriously we're supposed to take Greg Weisman's statement that gargoyles don't like pigeons. After all, the pigeon droppings (which would be the most probable basis for that antipathy) wouldn't be on the gargoyles proper so much as on the stone skin that they send flying in all directions when they wake up, meaning that they don't directly experience the humiliation.

Though I still find it amusing to imagine Bronx chasing pigeons about, barking at them furiously. (Good thing that he didn't visit Trafalgar Square during the time that he spent in London in "M.I.A."!)
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 7:24:09 am EDT from 4.244.215.148

Greg, I'd go to a gathering in Baghdad as well. AND do touristy stuff. Like pick up a class 3 firearm....err...an RPG is still class 3 right? j/k...or am I? You know, they say you can't trust a redhead with a rocket launcher.
Reno
Yeah, use the force Lex...
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 5:11:53 am EDT from 24.205.105.243

Spen>> Pigeon Forge is about 45 minutes to an hour from Knoxville, a considerably larger town with plenty to do.

G'07>> Just when I thought my hours-long marathons down I-81 would be a thing of the past in a matter of days, along comes a reason to make the trek one more time.

Except unlike each time these last three years, I'll actually enjoy this one and am very much looking forward to it.
Alex Garg - [<-- Frappr Gargoyles Fans]
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 2:03:06 am EDT from 216.145.68.246

Greg Bishansky>Haha actully I know a some people who do tourist stuff and attend the gathering. So there are some :P
shara
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 1:55:26 am EDT from 4.246.215.240

I'm 95% sure I'll be attending G'07. TN is certainly doable and nice to have it somewhat close.
More than that though, I'm glad there will BE a G'07, and thank all those responsible.
Matt - [Cape Girardeau, MIssouri, USA]
"I sometimes go to my own little world, but that's okay, they know me there." - Joel Hodgson
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 1:14:22 am EDT from 150.201.117.211

Can imagine the Gargoyles reaction to the new gathering location - "we're going to a place with Pigeons!!! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo" Mind you, it would keep Bronx busy.

Just kidding ^_^ couldn't resist.
Wingless
posted @ Tue, May 9, 2006 12:49:19 am EDT from 70.27.173.142

Okay, show of hands for anyone who actually does touristy stuff when they go to the Gathering?

Nope, didn't think so. Except for in Vegas, but there was money to be made ;)

I'd say, be grateful that there is a 2007 Gathering. Nikki, I applaud you for being willing and able to take on this assignment. Thanks.

Hell, I'd go to Baghdad for a Gathering.
Greg Bishansky - [<---- The Tenth Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles]
Each year, the Rainforest is responsible for over three thousand deaths from accidents, attacks or illnesses. There are over seven hundred things in the Rainforest that cause cancer. Join the fight now and help stop the Rainforest before it's too late.
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 11:54:35 pm EDT from 68.202.14.214

Williamsburg, VA doesn't have a very large resident population either, but the fandom had a pretty nice convention there in 2002. I'm looking forward to having a con like that again. We'll try to make sure the hotel for G2007 is a little bit closer to a pancake house, though. ;)
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2006]
"Look, you're British, so scale it down a bit." - Eddie Izzard
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 11:44:53 pm EDT from 70.229.220.6

Personally, the where of the Gathering is incidental... it's more the kick of getting to see friends I don't get to see anywhere else- go to panels, etc- I don't think I've left the hotel much in years past. (Exception would be 2001 where you *had* to go to the Citywalk to find food.) In 2002 we had a generally small con in Virginia and it was the best gathering, imho, because it was laid back and friendly and you weren't distracted by anything bigger than very lovely ihops.

Unless it's too expensive to go, those of us who try to make it every year are going in support of the fandom; side attractions are icing on the cake- the Gathering IS the cake.

All I ask for is a Dennies, or some other food place that stays open til dawn.
Mara - [baranotenshi@hotmail.com]
"That's the beauty of it" - Reverend Thrower
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 11:39:47 pm EDT from 69.154.241.6

Gee, Spen... I'm kind of glad we're having a Gathering 2007 at all (and that it's got a dedicated person like Hecate at the helm), so I think I'll do some celebrating and start saving a little from each paycheck now instead of at the last minute, so that I don't have to gripe about the cost of plane tickets and hotel later.

Congrats, Hecate! I'm sure Pidgeon Forge 2007 is going to kick ass and take names! I'm looking forward to taking a side trip to Dollywood, myself...
Kythera of Anevern - [kythera (at) gmail.com]
I do not suffer fools, gladly or otherwise.
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 11:33:41 pm EDT from 24.126.11.109

Spen - Look a little farther into the location before coming to any conclusions. It's definitely grown a lot since 1994, and I don't just mean the population. 2000 census was over 5,000, I think, and the hotel count is over 100 for the area. Not to mention the cabins and condo type places. It's mostly tourist attractions and businesses. Not many people live there, but a LOT of people visit (and make return visits). :)
Y2Hecate - [y2hecate@gmail.com]
Masochist.. I mean.. future con-chair.
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 11:28:32 pm EDT from 65.41.165.200

Holy carp, the Gathering is going to be held in a town with a population of 3,027? (At least, that was the pop. in '94.) Ye gods, does the place even have a hotel?
Spen
"Why do people always use sport's metephores when they want you to do something stupid?" - David Swaine
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 11:12:18 pm EDT from 216.248.119.208

Todd - Pure coincidence. It's just the big, fun, touristy, location of the area. :)

HoE - Hope you can make it! We're trying to make it as unexpensive as possible to stay there, so that hopefully it offsets the travel costs at least a little.
Y2Hecate - [y2hecate@gmail.com]
Masochist.. I mean.. future con-chair.
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 11:02:30 pm EDT from 65.41.165.200

King Cobra> "Dying of the Light" and "Seeing Isn't Believing." The first because, well, I just enjoy it. Good premise, not too heavy handed, generally well done and subtle. The latter is visually beautiful, shame that WDJ closed shop...they'd put out some stunning animation work. Also, Proteus was cool and I liked the inclusion of the New Olpymians, thought the staff took on something big and they actually did well with it. Of course they bungled the Demona/Angela relationship like a blind ski jumper...*grumbles*

HoE>Thailog's a jerk. But he's also resiliant and motivated. He'd sell his own fathers to...well I think everyone's seen "Double Jeopardy" have they not? ;)
Reno
Oh yeah, you and what starfleet?
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 9:02:09 pm EDT from 24.205.105.243

Hmmmm, Tennessee. That just might be doable. If I could find some Gargoyles fans in my area to help me split the cost of fuel... (I can only imagine what its price might rise to next year).

Dragomir: Wouldn't say I'm lucky just yet. As I said, usually when you preorder something, they ask you for a phone number. This guy never did. Besides, I went looking for his place at the Four-Mile Fork Shopping Center off Jefferson Davis Highway and never found it. And it's where both Mapquest and my phone book said it would be.

Reno: Ugh, that's why I don't remember it. Still, one thing I did like about that episode was how Thailog remained a son of a bitch to the very end. His last act on this Earth was to try and inject the virus into Goliath. And somehow, Goliath still manages to shed a tear for him. What a guy.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"When angels are forced to leave heaven, they become devils. You agree, don't you, Spike?" -Vicious.
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 8:34:23 pm EDT from 69.174.3.196

Reno> Well, now I'm curious. What are the other two TGC episodes?

And you're welcome, BTW.
kingcobra_582 - [KingCobra_582@hotmail.com]
King Cobra3
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 7:50:17 pm EDT from 209.239.132.4

So does the choice of Pigeon Forge for next year's Gathering have anything to do with the "Pigeon" part of its name, or is that just a coincidence? :)
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 6:50:41 pm EDT from 4.245.17.133

King Cobra3: ah thank you! "Genesis Undone" is about one of three TGC eps that I can stand to watch. Some of them are just....*shudders* anyhoo, thanks for the correction. ;)
Reno
"I TOLD you to save our daughter!"
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 5:43:57 pm EDT from 24.205.105.243

Reno> Actually, that was Angela's line.
King Cobra3 - [KingCobra_582@hotmail.com]
"Got it!" -Lexington, Awakening IV
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 12:48:43 pm EDT from 209.239.132.159

Comic> An employee of a local shop that I tried reserving my copy(ies) at promised to e-mail me a "free subscription information" so I can be assured that there'll be always 1 copy set aside for me. As far as I know so far, I have not gotten that email yet. I may have to call the place back.

G2007> Heh. Awesome. Kickin'. :0) It's gonna be a bit of a drive, but (assuming my other and I sign up for G2007, of course) I think we can make it for that one.
King Cobra3 - [KingCobra_582@hotmail.com]
"Got it!" -Lexington, Awakening IV
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 12:47:50 pm EDT from 209.239.132.159

HoE: it's from the TGC episode "Genesis Undone" when Thailog gets pissed about being double crossed and goes after Sevarius. I believe either Lexington or Hudson says it, can't remember. Thought it might be more kid-friendly than my NY, NY one. ;)
Reno
"I TOLD you to save our daughter!"
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 12:47:37 pm EDT from 24.205.105.243

Dragomir > I have to correct you just slightly. While Andrea was introduced in TGS, she only became Demona's lover (and eventually her mate) in the spinoff fanfic universe of Madame Destine.

Todd > It's near Knoxville. It's the home of Dollywood. You can check on Mapquest. ;)
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2006]
"It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it." - Stephen Wright
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 12:19:51 pm EDT from 24.106.128.24

Lucky you Harvester! What was the name of the place you ordered from? Please do tell us when you finally get your order. (:

Everyone> Here is a list of my fave fanfic characters.
1) The Twins (because they're soooo cute! Especially Ari-chan, love it when she gives people the sad puppy dog look, can't wait to see how much trouble she causes for Brook once she grows up and starts noticing males...good thing his hair is already gray. Wish Brook had a comic book daughter instead of a son.)
2) Andrea (Demona's artistic human friend and lover from TGS)
3) Sata, cause she's an honorable sword swinging warrior and hot to boot, though not as hot as Demona of course.
4) Umbriel the Halfling, poor guy...hate Madoc
5) Jericho (I love the concept of an evil son of Demona and Goliath, even if Jericho was a truly creepy and messed up character, but NEVER boring)
6) Godiva...do I really need to say why?(still not as hot as Demona though, but love her shallow and flirtaceous nature)
7) Ventura, an evil Angie, what could be better?
Dragomir
Maybe my niche can be the inquisitive crazy man of the comment room? No? Okay...~Dragomir
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 9:06:42 am EDT from 134.241.91.226

There's an actual town or city out there named Pigeon Forge? Just when you thought that place-names couldn't get any more peculiar....
Todd Jensen
"Gargoyles" - did for monstrous-looking statues what "Watership Down" did for rabbits!
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 8:53:47 am EDT from 4.244.211.155

And that should have said that the link is on the Gathering 2006 home page. B'dur. Coffee... must find coffee.
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2006]
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 7:57:33 am EDT from 24.106.128.24

The Gathering of the Gargoyles is pleased to announce that a location has been selected for next year's convention! The Eleventh Annual Gathering of the Gargoyles, The Gathering 2007, will take place in the city of Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. For more information, please visit the Gathering 2007 web site (link can be found on the Gathering 2007 home page). Pre-registration for The Gathering 2007 will begin at The Gathering 2006 in Los Angeles, California, with special rates available to all Gathering 2006 attendees.

The Gathering 2006 has added a number of new guests, including voice actors from "Gargoyles" and "W.I.T.C.H." and the creators of "Kim Possible." Visit our web site for details.

14 days left to reserve hotel rooms.
26 days left to pre-register for the convention.
46 days left until The Gathering 2006 in Valencia, California!
Patrick - [<-- The Gathering 2006]
"The early bird gets the worm but it's the second mouse who gets the cheese." - Stephen Wright
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 7:55:50 am EDT from 24.106.128.24

Ted: Don't know if you're aware of this, but there's a comic coming out soon. First new Gargoyles stories by Greg in ten years.

Reno: Just wondering: where does the "Thailog... helping us?" quote come from?

Speaking of comics, I MIGHT have preordered mine. The guy I spoke to on the phone said that they can preorder anything that's listed in their directory. He got my name and the title and distributor of what I wanted to order, but he never asked me for my home number. He simply said they'd put in an order. Well, I'll call them back the day it comes out.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"When angels are forced to leave heaven, they become devils. You agree, don't you, Spike?" -Vicious.
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 6:47:45 am EDT from 69.174.3.196

I started watchin Gargoyles against on Toon Disney for the first time in about 10 years. I forgot how they captured the Twin Towers and Manhattan. The story is still interesting and engrossing to me as an adult. Thanks for the great cartoon!!!
ted - [tedcoppel@aol.com]
Good work Greg and Crew
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 5:07:14 am EDT from 64.12.116.8

Tenth!

Moving right along...
Alex Garg - [<-- Frappr Gargoyles Fans]
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 2:20:06 am EDT from 216.145.68.246

Nine!
Kythera of Anevern - [kythera (at) gmail.com]
I do not suffer fools, gladly or otherwise.
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 1:42:13 am EDT from 24.126.11.109

*Plants a flag*
I claim this number 8 in the name of .. well, me :D
Chameleongirl - [<-- Come to the Gathering!]
Chameleon may change her spots, but she refuses to do plaid
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 1:41:46 am EDT from 202.87.162.31

7th.
Matt - [Cape Girardeau, MIssouri, USA]
"I sometimes go to my own little world, but that's okay, they know me there." - Joel Hodgson
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 1:06:32 am EDT from 150.201.118.168

sixth!
Is the comic only going to be sold in specialty shops? Does anyone have a borders or a Waldenbooks near them that you know are going to be selling them? I might have to oreder them online...
Purplegoldfish - [skydragonn@aol.com]
Pimpin' my DA gallery
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 1:06:06 am EDT from 152.163.100.14

5th.
Leo
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 1:00:07 am EDT from 68.107.154.71

4th
oneuke
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 12:58:23 am EDT from 69.3.208.88

Oh, right, the top ten thing. Third, I guess. Slow one this week.

I tried to preorder the comic the other day, but the man told me that, at that store, they don't do preorders except for regular subscribers who got several titles. He said they wouldn't reserve a copy of just one specific book. However, he also said that they were going to order quite a few copies, and that "a lot of people have been asking about it." That's certainly encouraging. So, as long as I'm there the day it comes out (and, if I keep checking here, I'm sure I'll know when that is), I shouldn't have any problems.
Jurgan - [jurgan6@yahoo.com]
"Die, die, we all pass away/ But don't wear a frown, 'cause it's really okay./ You might try to hide, and you might try to pray/ But we all end up the remains of the day." -"Remains of the Day," from Tim Burton's Corpse Bride
posted @ Mon, May 8, 2006 12:45:59 am EDT from 68.58.253.131

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