Comment Room Archive : Gargoyles : Station Eight

Hey, Todd. I liked your essay.

Masterdramon> Can't wait to read yours in it's entirety.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
"For every two dozen Phantom Menaces, there is a Return of the King. For every two-bit Shyamalan, a Stanley Kubrick is born. For every poor soul who groans during an Adam Sandler-funded Rob Schneider vehicle, there is a child crying life-affirming tears when Bambi's mom is shot. Somewhere out there, a film student is finding out what Rosebud means for the first time. A man is pausing as Fredo prays the Hail Mary on a boat over Lake Tahoe. A woman grasps her heart as Bogie's love flies off into the foggy night. All it takes is one moment to change a person. And that one moment... no matter how fleeting... is worth a thousand Transformers."
posted @ Sat, Dec 8, 2012 7:14:22 pm EST from 24.185.74.60

COMET - I've even seen the spelling "MacBeth" applied to the original character in Shakespeare - though, thankfully, not that often.

MASTERDRAMON - Best wishes on your essay. I once wrote an essay on "Gargoyles" for an anthology on the Middle Ages as depicted on television (which, unfortunately, was cancelled when it didn't get enough submissions), but it was much simpler, I fear - more an introduction to the series (with the emphasis on its medieval roots - Castle Wyvern, Macbeth, King Arthur, etc.) than the philosophical approach you took.
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are great finders
posted @ Sat, Dec 8, 2012 6:13:12 pm EST from 108.226.1.5

http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=991

Sounds like something that should have been pitched to Adult Swim because it sounds like something that would air on there. One being Space Ghost Coast to Coast comes to mind.
Green Lantern's Nightlight
posted @ Sat, Dec 8, 2012 2:49:33 pm EST from 94.172.200.83

http://gargwiki.net/Misconceptions_and_urban_legends_about_Gargoyles
Hm, maybe there should be a paragraph about Macbeth's name. I've seen it misspelled so often now... most people write MacBeth, some even Mac Beth.
Now I think that this seems to be clearly something for that article. (I don't have editing rights, though)
Comet
I'm shipping off...to find my wooden leg!
posted @ Sat, Dec 8, 2012 1:46:09 pm EST from 80.187.110.148

Masterdramon> Very cool. I don't know if you went here in your paper, but I wonder: All those things are not clear by calling him "Hudson", but in time, for both us humans and the gargoyles, "Hudson" does start to mean all those things. Within a few days even, the people that know him hear "Hudson" and think not of the river, but of the personality and appearance and adventures of the gargoyle.

It reminds me of gandalf in "The Hobbit": "You do know my name, though you don't remember that I belong to it. I am Gandalf, and Gandalf means me!"
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"Thats three down and two to go..." -Sevarius, "The Reckoning"
posted @ Sat, Dec 8, 2012 5:36:17 am EST from 99.92.109.252

Oh yeah, cool. So at least I hadn't imagined it.
Supermorff
posted @ Sat, Dec 8, 2012 5:19:38 am EST from 86.162.30.245

Supermorff: Thanks!

Both versions of the line were used before the joke was cut, actually. To whit:

In that same scene, Hudson gets named for the river. I love that scene, as I loved the scene where Tom, Brook and Lex are talking about names. Of course, the desire not to name most of the gargoyles until we got to NYC '94, was mostly pragmatic. It allowed us to use those fun, cool NY names for most of the characters. But once we came up with the rationale for it, and once I managed to explain it to everyone, I really fell in love with the concept. Hudson's lament, here, that humans don't think something is real until they've put there stamp on it, is, to me at least, so damn true. And Elisa's response is so feeble and circular. "Things need names." Pathetic. But I'm no different. <SIGH> I'm such a human. But I aspire to gargoylosity. Anyway, after Hudson points to the river, and Elisa basically tricks him into taking that name, she used to have a line, as I may have mentioned before, where she said (under her breath) "Good thing we weren't facing Queens" -- implication being that Hudson nearly ended up being called Queen, I guess. It was always funny, but S&P didn't care for it, and I couldn't really defend it. So out it went. We tried another version, where she just says, "Good thing we weren't facing East." But it didn't play. So out it went too.

http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=47
Masterdramon - [kmc12009@mymail.pomona.edu]
"You've got to be all mine, all mine...ooh, Foxy Lady..." - Jimi Hendrix
posted @ Sat, Dec 8, 2012 5:16:53 am EST from 134.173.88.59

Masterdramon> I love that analysis, and look forward to reading more some day.

I could have sworn the cut line was "Good thing we weren't facing east", since the river on the other side is the East River (and Hudson was pointing to a river, not a borough). Although, thinking about it, Queens is on that side, so they could have been looking at Queens and still pointed to the East River... I just don't remember any more.

But the analysis is great.
Supermorff
posted @ Sat, Dec 8, 2012 3:58:48 am EST from 86.162.30.245

Harlan: Excuse my caps-lock for a moment, but...

WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD PASS ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT?!!! IT'S COMEDY GOLD!!!!!!!!!

Urgh...ahem...

Re:the paper: I actually will probably submit it to Ask Greg (slightly edited) when the queue reopens. But here's a sample extract for those who were curious...

In You Are Not a Gadget, Jaron Lanier describes the phenomenon experienced by these gargoyles using the term "lock-in." As Lanier puts it, "lock-in…removes design options based on what is easiest to program, what is politically feasible, what is fashionable, or what is created by chance." Furthermore, the process "also reduces or narrows the ideas it immortalizes, by cutting away the unfathomable penumbra of meaning."

Despite originally referring to programming language, this is a perfect description of the process that "Hudson" has been subjected to in the previous scene. Names are a method of defining identity, which necessarily must involve "giving it limits." But in traditional gargoyle culture, identity has greater meaning than that; it is amorphous, and changes with the circumstances.

The gargoyle who first made a compact with the humans at Castle Wyvern is the same gargoyle who mated three times and produced three progeny; he is the same gargoyle who fought the evil Archmage and received a wound that blinded him in one eye; he is the same gargoyle who slept for centuries and once awakened, found himself fascinated with the television show "Celebrity Hockey."

Does one name - Hudson - really encapsulate all of these aspects of his identity?

In-and-of-itself, all it signifies is that the place Hudson awoke in was modern-day New York (a cut line from the episode's script even has Elisa commenting, "Good thing we weren't facing Queens," emphasizing with humor how off-hand and esoteric the choice was).

That name was "locked-in" as the full and entire representation of the character from that point onward, solely because it was politically feasible (it makes dealing with Elisa and later human allies far more expedient), it was fashionable (every other intelligent being in 1994 New York has a name, so why not the gargoyles?), and it was created by chance (quite literally in this case, as the "Queens" quote illustrates).

And the result is that the very meaning of his identity is narrowed. He is no longer capable of being someone at a particular moment, and someone else in the next.

He is always Hudson.
Masterdramon - [kmc12009@mymail.pomona.edu]
"You've got to be all mine, all mine...ooh, Foxy Lady..." - Jimi Hendrix
posted @ Fri, Dec 7, 2012 9:49:22 pm EST from 134.173.88.59

With the newest Ask Greg post, I'd just like to establish Greg Weisman is my favorite person.
Harlan Phoenix
posted @ Fri, Dec 7, 2012 9:27:32 pm EST from 76.2.70.200

Todd: Ah, well that's a different kind of fan-deviant that easily reminds me of the "Why isn't Shocker Herman Schultz?!" days . . .

Masterdramon: The title of your paper is tickling not only my Gargoyles bone but my Poli-Sci minor bone as well . . . Oh, to be in college again, hehe. :)
Phoenician
"The suspense is terrible, I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka
posted @ Fri, Dec 7, 2012 9:10:10 pm EST from 68.231.100.47

Masterdramon> Cool! Any more specific thoughts from it you'd like to share?
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"Thats three down and two to go..." -Sevarius, "The Reckoning"
posted @ Fri, Dec 7, 2012 8:55:15 pm EST from 99.92.109.252

Heh heh.

It might help that the professor in question, Dr. Susan McWilliams, is perhaps best known in national academia for the pieces "On the Marauder's Map: The Political Geography of Harry Potter" and "The Problem of Slavery in Harry Potter."

...Along with a lot of far more serious stuff about de Toqueville and such.

But yeah...awesome teacher, awesome class.
Masterdramon - [kmc12009@mymail.pomona.edu]
"You've got to be all mine, all mine...ooh, Foxy Lady..." - Jimi Hendrix
posted @ Fri, Dec 7, 2012 8:54:36 pm EST from 134.173.88.59

Masterdramon> O_O

Now you've got me wondering if there's some way I can make my M.A. biology research somehow Gargoyles-related...
Ross
"Oh villain! Villain! Smiling cursed villain! That one might smile and smile, and be a villain! Gooo VILLAIN! Whooooo! Yeah!" -- Sally Avril
posted @ Fri, Dec 7, 2012 8:03:35 pm EST from 184.9.242.158

@Masterdramon My head = assplode.
FTBM
posted @ Fri, Dec 7, 2012 6:53:45 pm EST from 74.115.160.146

Yes, I suppose I was too concerned. But I had wondered whether some of the problem stemmed from "Young Justice" being based on a pre-existing property, and those famiiiar with the property being upset whenever "Young Justice" deviated from the comics.
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are great finders
posted @ Fri, Dec 7, 2012 6:53:25 pm EST from 108.226.1.5

Apropos to nothing, I just submitted to my Contemporary Political Theory professor a paper on the sociopolitical implications of the asymbolic communication hypothesized to have been exhibited amongst gargoyles prior to convergent evolution with human language systems.

...Just thought that was kinda neat. XD
Masterdramon - [kmc12009@mymail.pomona.edu]
"You've got to be all mine, all mine...ooh, Foxy Lady..." - Jimi Hendrix
posted @ Fri, Dec 7, 2012 6:15:39 pm EST from 134.173.88.59

Todd> I totally get what you are saying. I've had the same thoughts on the matter myself. But I have to agree with Supermorff. The desire for knowledge isn't the problem, it is the impatience and rule-breaking that bothers me.

Afterall, what is the GargWiki if not the Gargoyles version of an Young Justice Almanac.
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"Thats three down and two to go..." -Sevarius, "The Reckoning"
posted @ Fri, Dec 7, 2012 12:13:37 pm EST from 99.92.109.252

Todd> But that's the benefit of this site. Ask Greg doesn't help you enjoy the shows, which can and do stand on their own merits, but it does help 1) to get a creator's insight and 2) to get a better understanding of the characters and the world in which the TV shows take place.

The big difference between Young Justice and Gargoyles is that, since YJ is based on an existing (and huge) property, then people already know something about the characters who MIGHT appear. People already have their own favourites. They want to know more about the world, so they ask if the person exists.

For Gargoyles, this is how we found out that characters like Prospero, Dracula and Jean Valjean exist in the Gargoyles universe. Even the clans and Arthurian survivors contests played entirely into this mentality of wanting to know about the universe, without wanting to wait for a story to reveal it.

You could argue that YJ is a current series, so people will find out on the show. That's true, but it's just impatience. It doesn't indicate that there's anything different in the intention or thinking.
Supermorff
posted @ Fri, Dec 7, 2012 7:39:41 am EST from 62.25.109.195

HARLAN - Maybe, but still, so many of those questions give me the feeling that what those people really want is, not a television series, but an "Earth-16 Almanac".
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are great finders
posted @ Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:39:37 pm EST from 108.226.1.5

Todd>Good luck finding a property like that, though. I doubt this would be much different if Weisman was doing, say, an Avengers series instead of Young Justice.
Harlan Phoenix
posted @ Thu, Dec 6, 2012 6:41:13 pm EST from 76.2.70.200

I would never have been a good candidate to handle a DC Comics-based project (I'm not familiar enough with the property, for one thing), but seeing the kinds of questions about "Young Justice" that Greg Weisman gets regularly asked at "Ask Greg" has discouraged me from accepting even if someone was mad enough to offer it to me. If I ever work on something based on a pre-existing property, I'll choose one whose fans are less likely to flood me with questions based on the minutiae of the world of the original (is such-and-such-a-character going to appear in your story?, etc).
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are great finders
posted @ Thu, Dec 6, 2012 6:25:25 pm EST from 108.226.1.5

Isn't that a beautiful Fu-Dog? I think he/she/it looks clearly like a Gargbeast.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:StandingMingLion.jpg
Comet
I'm shipping off...to find my wooden leg!
posted @ Thu, Dec 6, 2012 5:07:39 pm EST from 80.187.111.104

I think this is the perfect final word on Mr. Disney

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7ms0h_saturday-night-live-disney-vault-vt_fun
Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
Here's the problem with most fanfic writers: they seem to think Dominique is a second life. It isn't. Demona spelled it plainly in "High Noon." She's a gargoyle. Dominique is just a tool to help her in her goals. She'll use the form because she changes into a human, whether she likes it or not, but Dominique is not another life for her.
posted @ Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:18:02 pm EST from 24.185.74.60

I miss Walt Disney very much. He's one of three people that, if I could go and talk to, I would jump at the chance.

Tini> Yah, I heard that news and I thought the exact same thing. Hears hoping!
Battle Beast - [Canada]
I did it! I watched all 485 Best picture nominees in 365 days!
posted @ Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:15:55 pm EST from 137.186.192.203

Ken: Greg Weisman doesn't answer questions in the Comment Room, except ones which relate to the operation of AskGreg itself (and even then, that is VERY rare). If you want to ask those questions to him, you'll need to wait until the queue reopens.

That being said...I wouldn't recommend doing so, as I can all but guarantee that the only answer you'll get to any of those three is "SPOILER REQUEST. NO COMMENT."
Masterdramon - [kmc12009@mymail.pomona.edu]
"You've got to be all mine, all mine...ooh, Foxy Lady..." - Jimi Hendrix
posted @ Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:05:17 pm EST from 134.173.88.59

Ken>You just made my day.
Harlan Phoenix
posted @ Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:08:29 pm EST from 76.2.70.200

Since I couldn't ask this on Ask Greg, I will ask this here.

1. Does Dan Garrett exist on Earth-16? Because you revealed that Ted Kord was the previous Blue Beetle and that the Scarab was created by The Reach. If Dan doesn't exist, then how did Ted discover the Scarab?
2. Are there other teams on Earth-16 besides the Justice League/Society, The Team and the All-Star Squadron (Like The Outsiders, etc.)
3. Are there any other "rainbow lantern" corps besides the Green Lanterns,like the Red Lantern Corp.?
Ken - [kennyvelez54@yahoo.com]
posted @ Wed, Dec 5, 2012 4:49:47 pm EST from 96.250.239.159

Supermorff> I was wondering the same thing. Interesting.
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"Thats three down and two to go..." -Sevarius, "The Reckoning"
posted @ Wed, Dec 5, 2012 1:50:04 pm EST from 99.92.109.252

Speaking of Disney, Netflix and Disney have signed a deal. I'm optimistic that if we get Gargoyles streaming from Netflix that that exposure may lead to a DVD/Blu-ray release someday.
Anthony Tini - [anthonyotini@gmail.com]
posted @ Wed, Dec 5, 2012 8:58:02 am EST from 159.240.11.122

Today is Walt Disney's birthday. Although he passed on long before "Gargoyles" was created, without him, we'd probably never have had it. So let's give him our thanks.
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are great finders
posted @ Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:47:15 am EST from 108.226.1.5

Umm, did Greg just say that there are plans to do something for Gargoyles' 20th anniversary? Am I misreading it? http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=17383
Supermorff
posted @ Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:43:44 am EST from 62.25.109.195

@GregB - I'm kind of resigned at this point to the unlikelihood of another tv series, but I'm still holding out for more comics at least. (Ihopeihopeihope)
FTBM
posted @ Tue, Dec 4, 2012 9:38:18 pm EST from 74.115.160.146

FTBM> <<I was wondering, when we get to see her "do" something again>>

I'm wondering when we'll get to see anybody in the "Gargoyles Universe" get to "do" something again.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
Here's the problem with most fanfic writers: they seem to think Dominique is a second life. It isn't. Demona spelled it plainly in "High Noon." She's a gargoyle. Dominique is just a tool to help her in her goals. She'll use the form because she changes into a human, whether she likes it or not, but Dominique is not another life for her.
posted @ Tue, Dec 4, 2012 9:09:20 pm EST from 24.185.74.60

@Pterobat - I didn't mean to imply that she was - the opposite in fact. I was wondering, when we get to see her "do" something again, what that something might be. And I know that we will. Hope that makes sense.
FTBM
posted @ Tue, Dec 4, 2012 9:06:06 pm EST from 74.115.160.146

FTBM> There is only so much time that can be given to all characters at any point in a series--Fox might not have been seen much in the comics, but that doesn't mean she's nothing but a "spoiled trophy wife", especially since she and Xanatos have a much stronger relationship than that.

Greg> Interested idea. I always pictured the New Wyvern Clan developing after more major changes to the gargoyle state of affairs happened, but the Coldduo might be around for long enough to see that. Having a cyborg and a robot found a "traditional" clan might be an interesting twist, too.
Pterobat - [incisivis@gmail.com]
posted @ Tue, Dec 4, 2012 8:43:48 pm EST from 174.3.224.115

Anthony Tini> That all depends on two things. First, Demona's intent. Did she kill Macbeth or did the virus do that? Secondly, assuming the former, which magic is stronger, the Weird Sisters' spell or the Praying Gargoyle?

Greg B> Interesting thought. It does seem possible. I always suspected that the bulk of the new Wyvern Clan would come from Avalon as a colony of theirs. Of course, that could still happen with the ColdDuo present.
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"Thats three down and two to go..." -Sevarius, "The Reckoning"
posted @ Tue, Dec 4, 2012 2:09:18 pm EST from 99.92.109.252

@Harvester of Eyes Yep in the archives as you suspected. I didn't know if you looked it up yourself, but I was curious so here's the link:
http://s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=489

Since we are speaking hypothetically, I could picture MacBeth dying from the virus, therefore killing Demona in the process but only temporary as the Praying Gargoyle would revive her and in turn revive MacBeth.
Anthony Tini - [anthonyotini@gmail.com]
posted @ Tue, Dec 4, 2012 1:55:33 pm EST from 159.240.11.254

I think the only thing Demona would have given any thought to was what affect, if any, the virus might have had on her connection to Macbeth (ie, if the virus killed him, would it kill her too?), which I think is somewhere in the Ask Greg archives.

Other than that, I don't think she thought too much about collateral damage, especially since she knew that the gargoyles of the world would be shielded from it.
Harvester of Eyes - [Minstrel75@gmail.com]
"You are superior to us in only one respect: you are better at dying!" -Dalek Sec ("Doctor Who")
posted @ Tue, Dec 4, 2012 12:16:15 pm EST from 71.101.40.185

I just had a thought. Greg once implied that the Coldduo's stay in Manhattan would not be permanent. What if they, ironically they the robot and stone cyborg, end up forming the new Wyvern Clan?

I could see them doing that, wanting peace and quiet, and despite what they are, after defeating Coldsteel, wanting to go back to basics. They already have an emotional connection to the place
Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
Here's the problem with most fanfic writers: they seem to think Dominique is a second life. It isn't. Demona spelled it plainly in "High Noon." She's a gargoyle. Dominique is just a tool to help her in her goals. She'll use the form because she changes into a human, whether she likes it or not, but Dominique is not another life for her.
posted @ Tue, Dec 4, 2012 11:58:10 am EST from 24.185.74.60

I simply assumed that Tommy Terror's greater size had something to do with his now being fully-grown. I actually thought it was pretty clever that he had become larger after five years and his final development into an adult, while Conner (who could impersonate him when they were both physically sixteen with just a costume change and a hair dye) remains the same size due to his "standard blessing and curse".
Chris Adams
posted @ Tue, Dec 4, 2012 5:25:09 am EST from 60.241.126.39

From what I recall, the reason it wouldn't kill the majority of the Third Race is because the plague wouldn't make it to Avalon.
Brainiac - [OSUBrainiac at gmail dot com]
There is balance in all things. Live in symmetry with the world around you. If you must blow things up and steal from those around you, THAT'S WHAT RPGS ARE FOR!
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 11:25:29 pm EST from 174.101.230.22

Didn't Greg address this in a question response once. I seem to remember that he said it might kill some species like chimpanzees and probably would kill many of the New Olympians, but probably not any of the Third Race.

Or so I seem to remember.

And keep in mind that "intelligent" is a subjective term and that humans (and gargoyles) are animals too.
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"Thats three down and two to go..." -Sevarius, "The Reckoning"
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 9:26:36 pm EST from 99.92.109.252

Open question, just because I haven't noticed it discussed around here: Does anyone have any speculation as to what Fox's future character arc will be? I have a hard time seeing her being content with being a spoiled trophy wife and shopping for shoes for much longer, but I can't really put a finger on her as a character (although I'm sure flashbacks in her life would be very interesting). GregW has mentioned quite a few times in the Q&A that her parents' marriage/divorce had a very profound effect on her view of herself/the world, and I wonder how much of that is still unresolved, amongst other things. Thoughts?
FTBM
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 9:26:32 pm EST from 74.115.160.146

Yes, not thinking out the whole implications sounds like Demona. (Imagine if all those dead humans produced a plague that wiped out the gargoyles - at least, any gargoyles near sizable human communities. The Mayan gargoyles, living in the relatively remote pyramid, might have been safe - but the ones in Manhattan and Ishimura, on the other hand....)
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are great finders
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 8:30:01 pm EST from 108.226.1.5

And we're also assuming Demona had fully thought out the consequences of what she was going to do.
Greg Bishansky - [<--- Greg's Blog of Clue-by-Fours]
Here's the problem with most fanfic writers: they seem to think Dominique is a second life. It isn't. Demona spelled it plainly in "High Noon." She's a gargoyle. Dominique is just a tool to help her in her goals. She'll use the form because she changes into a human, whether she likes it or not, but Dominique is not another life for her.
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 8:14:26 pm EST from 24.185.74.60

Masterdramon> Hm, that makes sense.

And by the way, do you think it would have affected Puck in Owen form?
Comet
I'm shipping off...to find my wooden leg!
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 7:43:30 pm EST from 80.187.110.174

Comet: There does seem to be some mystical or quasi-mystical significance attached to the "Three Races," however, for which gorillas, etc. do not qualify.

My guess is that Demona wished for the virus to be virulent against members of the Three Races, and used the Praying Gargoyle to save the First.

Perhaps going as specific as to just target the Second Race was beyond the Spell's parameters, or else Demona figured it probably wouldn't do much against the Third Race, but wanted to give it a shot anyway. She doesn't seem to much care for any of Oberon's Children at present.
Masterdramon - [kmc12009@mymail.pomona.edu]
"You've got to be all mine, all mine...ooh, Foxy Lady..." - Jimi Hendrix
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 7:39:42 pm EST from 134.173.88.59

Here are a few problems that come to my mind now.
- some animals are quite intelligent. For example science proved that Gorillas can have an IQ over 80. But they are still animals. On the other hand there are humans that have a far lower IQ. So simply creating a virus to simply erase all "intelligent" life wouldn't be the best idea - it could wipe out "intelligent" animals and could let "stupid" humans survive...
- If you could select a certain target, for example, in this case, "humans only", the Praying Gargoyle wouldn't even have been necessary.

So there must have been another criterion. But since we will never know what would have happened if she had been successful with releasing the plague we'll probably never know the truth.
Comet
I'm shipping off...to find my wooden leg!
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 7:35:21 pm EST from 80.187.110.174

Greg W.'s established that the Fulfillment Spell grants the user's wish, within certain limits; as such, she could presumably magically tailor the virus to infect only certain targets (or perhaps more likely, only be virulent to certain targets).
Masterdramon - [kmc12009@mymail.pomona.edu]
"You've got to be all mine, all mine...ooh, Foxy Lady..." - Jimi Hendrix
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 7:26:01 pm EST from 134.173.88.59

Probably just "intelligent" beings. (I can imagine many cynics arguing, however, that if Demona's spell was designed to wipe out all intelligent life, it probably wouldn't have rendered humanity extinct.)
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are great finders
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 6:39:00 pm EST from 108.226.1.5

Nice! Now I'll start the week with another question that came to my mind.
Would Demonas "operation clean slate" have affected animals, or only "intelligent" beings? I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have affected the Third Race, though (since they are made of magic).
Comet
I'm shipping off...to find my wooden leg!
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 6:32:21 pm EST from 80.187.110.174

tenth :)
SomeGeek
http://www.squidoo.com/thegeeklens-cartoons
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 6:07:23 pm EST from 69.255.208.193

I'll grab the NINE.
Comet
I'm shipping off...to find my wooden leg!
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 1:41:45 pm EST from 80.187.110.174

Eighth.
Ross
"Oh villain! Villain! Smiling cursed villain! That one might smile and smile, and be a villain! Gooo VILLAIN! Whooooo! Yeah!" -- Sally Avril
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 10:32:23 am EST from 147.226.228.34

Seventh.
Anthony Tini - [anthonyotini@gmail.com]
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 8:47:53 am EST from 159.240.11.57

Sixth.

Lorisa214: I was the moderator who deleted it. A couple of reasons...

- You ask six questions (arguably more than that, depending on how you choose to interpret the first one). The maximum limit for one post is five. Now, I'm usually pretty lenient about posts that only go one over, but I'd already been lenient on a previous post of yours from that same day, and I tend to give less slack when I notice a pattern.

- The last question at least borders on "idea masquerading as a question" territory, since it poses a hypothetical story scenario that has happened in no previous stories and could only happen in a future one (i.e. Superboy needing a blood transfusion).

- A couple of the questions, I can pretty much guarantee, would've earned "SPOILER REQUEST. NO COMMENT" responses from Greg W.

On their own, none of these reasons might be strong enough to kick the post (which is why all of your other ones were approved). In combination, I felt I couldn't be lenient this time.

I hope that explanation helped you in terms of asking questions in the future.

...BTW, it is impossible to edit or delete posts in the Comment Room once they are posted. Sorry.
Masterdramon - [kmc12009@mymail.pomona.edu]
"You've got to be all mine, all mine...ooh, Foxy Lady..." - Jimi Hendrix
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 6:53:57 am EST from 134.173.88.59

Fifth.
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
"Thats three down and two to go..." -Sevarius, "The Reckoning"
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 6:16:17 am EST from 99.92.109.252

...Can you delete my e-maill off my last post when you read this? Didn't realize it was public :(
Lorisa214
BAFM
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:41:59 am EST from 99.250.35.152

Hey! just a question.
I asked a question, but it got deleted, can you tell me what was wrong w it?

After kent Nelson's death, the JL, got a call saying there was a 'death in the family' I'm guessing family means someone from the hero club since Dr. Fate/Kent weren't on the JL yet. I was just wondering out of everyone at the funeral beside Wally, Kaldur'ahm, & Zatanna, has any of them actually met Kent? I understand they would all show up out of respect regardless though.
2) Would Flash (Jay) have ever worked with Dr.Fate/Kent?
3) Why wasn't Superman at the funeral?
4) Did Red Tornado & Flash/Jay work together originally/at all?
5) Does Clark know where the rest of Conners DNA came from yet?
6) If Conner needed blood, who would he get it from?
Lorisa214 - [VanillaAngelCake48@hotmail.com]
Lorisa214
posted @ Mon, Dec 3, 2012 2:39:31 am EST from 99.250.35.152

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