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Comments for the week ending July 12, 2015

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MATT - Yes, I especially still really like Goliath's line about how "Human problems become gargoyle problems" - and indeed, so many of the misfortunes the gargoyles face throughout the series stem from human problems, whether quarrels over the succession to the Scottish throne or a man shooting his brother and, burdened with guilt but unable to accept responsibility for his action, taking it out on a group of winged scapegoats....
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

Never noticed the broaches. I'll have to watch for that. Good catch, Todd.

I've also loved the "tea scene". One of the moments of the series where I can recite the dialogue by heart. I believe Greg once said that he used to use the scene when he taught writing to best illustrate four different character motivations in a short amount of time or something like that. Good stuff.

Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]

I'd wondered about that as well. I suspect that the "family crest" is more likely, since Leo and Una were shown wearing it in 1940, before Griff's disappearance (which would have been the most likely cause of their representing him specifically on their brooches, as a way of commemmorating him).
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

TODD> I wonder if the Griffin themed neck-clasp is meant to represent Griff specifically or something more along the lines of a London Clan "family crest"?
Algernon84
"Welcome to my house! Enter freely. Go safely, and leave something of the happiness you bring!"

Watched "M. I. A." today, since according to my "today in history" desktop calendar, July 10 is the anniversary of the beginning of the Battle of Britain. Noticed a couple of things this time around:

1. In the first scene in the magic shop, Una's writing something with a quill pen. Definitely old-fashioned.

2. Leo and Una's hooded robes have brooches with a griffon's head (presumably modeled on Griff's) upon them. (Since they're wearing those brooches in 1940 as well as in the present-day, it can't be a way of commemmorating his loss in the war.)

I still like the little touch of the London clan having tea and Una apologizing for no sugar because of rationing.

Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

Todd Jensen> Correct. It was Verdi's tenth opera, originally released in 1847 but expanded and redone for Parisian audiences in 1865.

I'm not sure if you'd want to track down both versions or not, but it might be difficult; the revised version is the preferred choice for modern performances.

Brainiac - [OSUBrainiac at gmail dot com]
"It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

Only Macbeth adaption I've seen is a filmed version done by the London Shakespeare company which had Ian Mckellen and Judi Dench as Macbeth and Lady Macbeth, it was alright.
Matthew
From far, from eve and morning, And yon twelve-winded sky, The stuff of life to knit me, Blew hither: here am I. -A.E. Housman

I'd like to see the Patrick Stewart adaptation all the way through - I only saw parts of it when it aired on PBS a couple of years ago. I really ought to check at the library to see if they've got the DVD. (For those who haven't seen it, it resets the play in what looks like Russia in the 1940's, with the Weird Sisters as nurses.)

Not exactly Shakespeare's version, but based on it, was an opera adaptation I saw parts of on the BBC in the late 70's; it was actually a performance of an opera based on the play (I'll have to look up to see who made an opera of "Macbeth" - probably Verdi). Being a television adaptation, it included a few special effects, like Macbeth's castle melting away after Macduff kills him (I gathered that it was conjured up by the Witches), leaving only a bare skull-like hill.

Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

What do you guys think is the best Macbeth film adaption?

Orson Wells... Roman Polanksi... there's Throne of Blood by Kurosawa...

I've only yet seen the one with Patric Stewart, I will watch the others eventually, just want to find what may be the top priority.

Inland
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Ninja Turtles (1987) Gargoyles Season Three AU Crossover Space Invaders Chapter Three: You Are Cordially Invited now posted -

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10782624/4/Ninja-Turtles-Gargoyles-Season-Three-Space-Invaders

enjoy

Celgress - [m44tu at unb dot ca]

I've heard about the upcoming King Arthur film, it's going to be odd hearing Charlie Hunnam speak in his natural accent after all these years listening to him put on an American accent.
Matthew
From far, from eve and morning, And yon twelve-winded sky, The stuff of life to knit me, Blew hither: here am I. -A.E. Housman

I learned this a couple of weeks ago, and really should have shared it here sooner, but:

A fellow named Guy Ritchie is making a six-movie series about King Arthur. He's evidently taking liberties with the story, since in the first movie, reportedly, Arthur is doing battle with Vortigern (who, in the medieval accounts, died years before Arthur was even born, overthrown by his uncle Ambrosius, Uther Pendragon's older brother) - but what makes this relevant (kind of) to "Gargoyles" is that Vortigern reportedly will be played by Jude Law, whom Greg Weisman had mentally cast as the voice of Peredur for the Stone of Destiny story. Meaning that Jude Law gets to play an Arthurian character for real rather than in Greg's fantasy casting.

Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders

Welp, that was a quick count, now we just need something to talk about to last the rest of the week.
Algernon
"Welcome to my house! Enter freely. Go safely, and leave something of the happiness you bring!"

AtTENtion, Comment Room: The count has reached two digits.
Paul - [nampahcfluap at yahoo dot com]

(Ate 9 or 10)Ninth!!!!!!!!!
Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]
Mark Twain: "Don't argue with stupid people. They'll take you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Eighth!
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]

We just celebrated the events of SEVENteen SEVENty six!
Jurgan - [jurgan6 at yahoo dot com]

Happy July SIXTH everyone!
Anthony Tini

Five, Seven, then Five
Syllables mark a haiku
Remarkable oaf.

Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"Listen, sempai. I don't really care if you guys recognize me as a boy or a girl. In my opinion, it's more important for a person to be recognized for who they are, rather than for what sex they are." - Haruhi Fujioka

Yesterday was July FOURTH!
Matthew
From far, from eve and morning, And yon twelve-winded sky, The stuff of life to knit me, Blew hither: here am I. -A.E. Housman

Third!
Chip - [Sir_Griff723 at yahoo dot com]
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. ~~C.S. Lewis

I'll second that, Phoenician.
Brainiac - [OSUBrainiac at gmail dot com]
"It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

FIRST! Hope everyone in the States had a safe and happy 4th of July :)

Also, I knew Greg Weisman was going to be doing the second arc in the Star Wars: Kanan comics, but its cool knowing he'll be writing it till (hopefully, at the least) issue 11 :)

https://twitter.com/Greg_Weisman/status/617557259426508801

Phoenician
"The suspense is terrible, I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka