MATTHEW> Because Whiro is ****ing metal!
Anonymous
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posted @ Thu, Aug 6, 2015 9:02:31 am EDT from 78.143.161.46

(Refreshes on Maori mythology) So Whiro, the lord of darkness, is an evil underworld dwelling reptile who wants to devour enough dead in order to grow large enough to destroy the world?
Why does that sound like something from an old Jack Kirby comic book.
Matthew
From far, from eve and morning, And yon twelve-winded sky, The stuff of life to knit me, Blew hither: here am I. -A.E. Housman
posted @ Wed, Aug 5, 2015 8:35:09 pm EDT from 71.202.80.122

I didn't know about Whiro until I looked him up this morning on Wikipedia after seeing him mentioned here, but the part of his entry that most stood out to me was the mention that the dead need to be cremated to keep him from feeding on them and growing stronger. It reminded me of the Norse myth about Naglfar, the ship of the dead which will bear a terrible army against the gods at Ragnarok, made from the nails of dead men - and thus, the dead should have their nails trimmed to delay the completion of Naglfar for as long as possible.
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders
posted @ Wed, Aug 5, 2015 8:13:58 pm EDT from 68.231.85.113

MASTERDRAMON> For the record, if Whiro is the villain of Moana that ALONE would be worth the price of admission for me.

Evil Lizard Demon-God who's life mission is to eat enough corpses to grow big enough to destroy the world?

SOLD!
Algernon
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posted @ Wed, Aug 5, 2015 1:17:35 pm EDT from 109.77.166.42

Ah, Maui. One of the few mythological characters who could look at Herakles' Twelve Labours and say "What, ya wimp, that's ALL?" :D

I'll readily admit to being biased, given where I live, but Polynesian mythology is definitely right at the top of my list of pantheons I'd like to see explored more - in the Gargoyles Universe as well as other Fantasy Kitchen Sinks.

It boggles my mind that it doesn't get more play, beyond the occasional (and typically highly inaccurate) incarnation of Pele. Whiro, in particular, seems pretty much TAILOR-MADE to be the Big Bad in a modern fantasy epic.

[FYI, if Whiro ends up being the villain of Disney's upcoming "Moana," I will flip a brick.]
Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"Listen, sempai. I don't really care if you guys recognize me as a boy or a girl. In my opinion, it's more important for a person to be recognized for who they are, rather than for what sex they are." - Haruhi Fujioka
posted @ Wed, Aug 5, 2015 4:38:07 am EDT from 66.27.220.40

Whoops, that should say Maui.
Matthew
From far, from eve and morning, And yon twelve-winded sky, The stuff of life to knit me, Blew hither: here am I. -A.E. Housman
posted @ Tue, Aug 4, 2015 11:19:25 pm EDT from 64.85.229.140

Some characters that I would like to see in the Gargoyles verse besides Vlad Tepes would probably be more trickster characters from other cultures. Like Māui, Loki, Sun Wukong, an ifrit and maybe even Renard the Fox.
Matthew
From far, from eve and morning, And yon twelve-winded sky, The stuff of life to knit me, Blew hither: here am I. -A.E. Housman
posted @ Tue, Aug 4, 2015 5:31:12 pm EDT from 64.85.229.140

London> you may wish to consult the Young Justice: Invasion archives here...

http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/archives.php?lid=664
Algernon
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posted @ Tue, Aug 4, 2015 5:05:20 pm EDT from 109.79.144.11

We're is Artemis and kid flash and why is everything so different it used to be my favorite show but now not so much because everything's different and we have noida why??

Eldest give us some info plz?!😐😐
London - [Londontablet2004 at gmail dot co]
London
posted @ Tue, Aug 4, 2015 4:34:47 pm EDT from 104.139.118.191

If Jane Eyre did ever show up in "Gargoyles", we might have a "compare-and-contrast" between Jane-Rochester-Bertha and Goliath-Elisa-Demona.

I'm tempted to hope for an actual appearance from the Frankenstein monster (assuming it wouldn't be redundant after Coldstone) if he was depicted the way he was in Mary Shelley's book (highly intelligent, articulate, and well-read, familiar with classics like Plutarch's "Lives" and "Paradise Lost") - but I'm a bit cautious about characters who were the definite creation of a specific author showing up in the Gargoyles Universe, as opposed to those who emerged out of myths and legends and were thus not the brainchildren of this writer or that.

I've mentioned this before, but there's a Japanese legend about a young man whose clan had been defeated by a rival clan, who restored its fortunes and recovered his patrimony thanks to the help of the tengu (and we know now that in the Gargoyles Universe, the tengu are Japanese gargoyles); I'd like to see that incorporated into Brooklyn's Timedancing visit to feudal Japan where he meets Katana, serving as the backdrop adventure in the way that the 997 overthrow of Constantine III was the backdrop adventure for Brooklyn's first Timedancer story.
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders
posted @ Tue, Aug 4, 2015 8:56:38 am EDT from 68.231.85.113

My personal top pick would be Jane Eyre from Charlotte Bronte's eponymous novel.

Although I don't really have any greater insight to add apart from just plain liking the character, and being interested in seeing what might've happened to her after Rochester's passing (with the way the book wraps up, I very much doubt he would've outlived her).

Otherwise, in general, I'd rather like to see some more characters from non-Western literature/mythologies. With a handful of exceptions, the Public Domain characters that "Gargoyles" has drawn from thus far have leaned pretty heavily toward the Eurocentric, and I'd kinda rather see Greg try his hands at characters that haven't quite gotten the same spotlight.
Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"Listen, sempai. I don't really care if you guys recognize me as a boy or a girl. In my opinion, it's more important for a person to be recognized for who they are, rather than for what sex they are." - Haruhi Fujioka
posted @ Tue, Aug 4, 2015 5:03:15 am EDT from 66.27.220.40

I doubt that Dr. Jekyll's formula would be a problem in the Gargoyles Universe (at least, not if it's following the original story by Robert Louis Stevenson), since its potency came from one of the ingredients being impure - and Dr. Jekyll had used up all of that particular version of the ingredient for his potion by the end of the story. When he re-ordered it from his supplier, he discovered that it was the regular version without the impurity - and presumably, it would be almost impossible to duplicate that change. (The British fantasy/horror writer Arthur Machen used a similar concept in his "Novel of the White Powder" where a young man taking medicine as a cure for overwork on his studies undergoes a terrible metamorphosis because one of the ingredients had undergone enough exposures to differing temperatures in "a process so complicated and so delicate, that I [thescientist examining the ingredient afterwards] question whether modern scientific apparatus directed with the utmost precision could produce the same result" - p. 81 of the Penguin Books Edition - to transform it into a legendary potion of witches' assemblies.)

Of course, given how in sequels to Hollywood monster movies, something happens to undo the death of the monster, it's possible that if Jekyll and Hyde need to show up in the present-day part of the Gargoyles Universe, we could have a similar revelation that one last sample of Dr. Jekyll's potion survived....
Todd Jensen
Hufflepuffs are really good finders
posted @ Mon, Aug 3, 2015 8:31:23 pm EDT from 68.231.85.113

TEN!

So, kinda spinning off the Dracula discussion from a couple weeks back, I've recently been rereading The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde, and it did start me wondering whether a copy of Jekyll's formula is still floating around the Gargoyles Universe somewhere. I did try searching for "Hyde" and "Jekyll" in the Ask Greg archives without finding anything, but it did remind me of a topic I've been wanting to bring up here...

Apart from obvious (Shakespearean, Arthurian, ect) and those Greg has already confirmed (Jean Valjean, Dracula, ect), what Public Domain Characters would y'all most like to see incorporated into the Gargoyles Universe, and why?
Algernon
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posted @ Mon, Aug 3, 2015 4:17:22 pm EDT from 109.79.157.0

I guess that makes me ninth, my favorite number actually.
Matthew
From far, from eve and morning, And yon twelve-winded sky, The stuff of life to knit me, Blew hither: here am I. -A.E. Housman
posted @ Mon, Aug 3, 2015 3:19:13 pm EDT from 64.85.229.140

(8th)Eight!!!!!!!!
Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]
Mark Twain: "Don't argue with stupid people. They'll take you down to their level and beat you with experience."
posted @ Mon, Aug 3, 2015 1:57:17 pm EDT from 108.238.82.179

(8th)Eight!!!!!!!!
Vinnie - [tpeano29 at hotmail dot com]
Mark Twain: "Don't argue with stupid people. They'll take you down to their level and beat you with experience."
posted @ Mon, Aug 3, 2015 1:57:15 pm EDT from 108.238.82.179

@Brainiac, I wish I could say I'm surprised but I'm not. It actually upsets me reading that story. Whoever picked "it" up from its last destination and stopped in Philly really can't be blamed, but should have thought better.

Like I said earlier, I've been living here for 5 weeks now (have visited countless times in the past) and I don't know how it got the name "city of brotherly love". Don't get me wrong, there are some nice people here, but I've already had my bike stolen so I have a bad taste in my mouth.
Anthony Tini
posted @ Mon, Aug 3, 2015 1:44:49 pm EDT from 148.159.160.51

Sixth.
Matt - [Saint Louis, Missouri, USA]
posted @ Mon, Aug 3, 2015 9:56:59 am EDT from 99.153.193.91

Anthony> Wait...Philadelphia?

Anthony, if anybody comes to ask you about what happened to hitchBOT...

http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/hitchhiking-robot-lasts-just-two-weeks-in-us-because-hu-1721544551

...just take the Fifth.
Brainiac - [OSUBrainiac at gmail dot com]
There is balance in all things. Live in symmetry with the world around you. If you must blow things up and steal from those around you, THAT'S WHAT RPGS ARE FOR!
posted @ Mon, Aug 3, 2015 8:40:52 am EDT from 104.129.196.71

4th in the name of 4+1 weeks now living in Philly.
Anthony Tini
posted @ Mon, Aug 3, 2015 8:21:16 am EDT from 148.159.160.51

Third in the name of Larry Wilmore, who's really come into his own in the last few months.

Nobody will be able to quite replace Jon, but the Nightly Show's evolution has made it clear there's still a reason to stick around Comedy Central on weeknights.
Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"Listen, sempai. I don't really care if you guys recognize me as a boy or a girl. In my opinion, it's more important for a person to be recognized for who they are, rather than for what sex they are." - Haruhi Fujioka
posted @ Mon, Aug 3, 2015 2:15:44 am EDT from 66.27.220.40

SECOND... and this will truly be a depressing week. Jon Stewart will be missed.

But John Oliver was amazing last night.
Greg Bishansky
posted @ Mon, Aug 3, 2015 1:38:02 am EDT from 67.189.178.253

FIRST day for the last week of Jon Stewart's run on the Daily Show :(
Phoenician
"The suspense is terrible, I hope it lasts" -- Willy Wonka
posted @ Mon, Aug 3, 2015 12:12:04 am EDT from 68.231.102.71