Ack, I meant Brion, not Gregor.
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posted @ Sun, Oct 2, 2022 4:08:19 pm EDT from 74.74.246.146

Some development is obviously being set up for Gregor's awareness of what's really going on with Zviad and the Infinitors but it might be fully played out in Targets before Season 5.
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posted @ Sun, Oct 2, 2022 12:40:53 pm EDT from 74.74.246.146

That's some good points. And is unfortunate that it's mostly the extreme cases that get depicted in media.

This is a close subject to me, not just because of my own neurodivergence but because my grandmother taught Special Ed. And sadly, the stigma hasn't gone away in our time anymore that it did in hers.

I've chosen to be a bit more prudent with theories. I have plenty of them, but what I've guessed and what's turned out have rarely been anything close. I thought season 4 was going to be wildly different from what happened.
Matthew
Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!
posted @ Sun, Oct 2, 2022 12:23:21 am EDT from 64.85.245.77

That's an interesting headcanon on Rocket, and I would like to see something like that on the show, but... well, that's the problem, that we have so little insight into how she ticks and how this situation played out, what kind of past might have explained how she got to the rather negative present. Also, while I agree that people can't be split into positives and negatives, and that most traits are just neutral, my problem is that the framing of the show as I read it disagrees. Traits I would consider neutral or understandable are inconvenient and annoying to the characters, traits I would consider negative but just a part of being human are made monstrous or childishly pitiable. I agree that the rage is an extension of the autism-coding, but having a character be coded autistic where an enormous part of that coding is uncontrolled violence, when that kind of stereotype gets autistic people killed, is inexcusable to me. Especially when the narrative doesn't provide any other autistic New Genesians, or indeed any other autistic characters capable of speaking for themselves, unless you count Metron (whose emotionless pure-logic characterization wouldn't exactly help as far as avoiding stereotypes goes.) Basically, I was hoping for more than 'character takes 4 episodes to extend their gracious tolerance to a guy living his own life, and don't think about how she might have treated any autistic co-heroes before now' (the League and Team and Outsiders definitely have more than 40 people, so statistically there's got to be at least one.) It's like if instead of Khalid and Halo and Madia talking about their faith, we got 4 episodes of a random Muslim very patiently waiting for Nightwing to wrap his head around the idea that Islam's not inherently oppressive, or if instead of the various queer characters just being out and proud we had to watch Connor and M'gann slowly work out that being gay or nonbinary isn't morally suspect and that dealing with homophobia sucks. I wish we had gotten a story where the POV and authority on autism was an autistic character, basically, and that we'd gotten that without Rocket's character flaws around her priorities being tied to ableism.

(also, I still kind of want to reach through the screen and shake her when she says that Amistad shouldn't get an aide because of stigma, because while that wouldn't help with stigma, I would bet dollars to donuts that every single one of his classmates and probably some of the teachers have singled him out as that weird kid who doesn't play right and talks funny and yells at stupid stuff. The stigma's already a done deal there, and her total lack of awareness or interest in either her son's time in school or basic human social dynamics boggles me, and I don't think she comes to realize any of that even with her grand 'I see you' moment, that completely elides her own biases and how she's acted on them. I doubt it was intended, but there's a reading you could do of the last exchange between her and Orion to say that having to be responsible for an autistic kid instead of a 'normal' one is a struggle equivalent to actually being autistic and dealing with ableism, like a space-based version of those awful and never ending autism-mommy blogs about what a noble form of martyrdom it is to be responsible for an autistic kid. Again, I don't think that was the intent, but the thing about stereotypes is that it's awfully easy to play into them on accident, and I'm not sure the writers were even aware of the pitfalls they should be trying to steer around or address. Anyways.)

As for theories... yeah I don't know. I'm still holding out hope for the Markov Reunion Bash. That's basically my only theory, and I have absolutely no expectation it'll happen, I'm just eternally hopeful.
Karrin Blue
posted @ Sat, Oct 1, 2022 10:49:53 pm EDT from 68.9.88.39

Also yeah the title was misleading. I totally expected the legally unavailable Kit Walker to be present in S4.
Antiyonder
posted @ Sat, Oct 1, 2022 8:42:16 pm EDT from 107.77.205.140

Speculation is all well and good, but there's not much point to it right now.
Matthew
Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!
posted @ Sat, Oct 1, 2022 6:42:53 pm EDT from 64.85.245.77

I don't bother speculating without any information to base it on.
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posted @ Sat, Oct 1, 2022 10:39:17 am EDT from 74.74.246.146

What will The 5th Season of Young Justice be called?
zareth jones - [zarethjones29 at gmail dot com]
zareth jones
posted @ Fri, Sep 30, 2022 3:41:32 pm EDT from 73.48.77.99

Will The Doom Patrol gave Flashback Scenes about how they met & formed as a Team & how Mento & Elasti-Woman met & fell in love in The 5th Season of Young Justice?
zareth jones - [zarethjones29 at gmail dot com]
zareth jones
posted @ Fri, Sep 30, 2022 3:40:16 pm EDT from 73.48.77.99

What are your Young Justice season 5 theories?
John Paul Gontor - [jrgontor at gmail dot com]
gontor
posted @ Thu, Sep 29, 2022 11:13:50 pm EDT from 192.190.140.23

Thanks, everyone, for the birthday wishes!

Also, today is the 28th Anniversary of the GARGOYLES World Premiere (at Disneyworld). My boss, Gary Krisel, and I went down there with Keith David, Salli Richardson and Marina Sirtis. We rode on the also premiering Tower of Terror ride, and screened the movie version of "Awakening" on two screens at the Pleasure Island multiplex.
Greg Weisman
posted @ Thu, Sep 29, 2022 12:45:27 pm EDT from 70.227.91.143

To you as well!
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posted @ Thu, Sep 29, 2022 9:59:40 am EDT from 74.74.246.146

Happy Michaelmas.
Todd Jensen
posted @ Thu, Sep 29, 2022 9:28:17 am EDT from 70.176.217.135

Happy Birthday Greg Weisman.
Antiyonder
posted @ Thu, Sep 29, 2022 1:18:53 am EDT from 71.84.183.196

This is a tricky subject and one that I'm not sure I've articulated well.

To begin with, I'd like to discuss Rocket. As I've mentioned before of the season 1 cast she got the least development so bear in mind, what I'm writing about her is what I've extrapolated and my personal headcanon.

From what she said about being the one to push Icon into public heroics, she comes off as someone who takes the life quite seriously, in fact in all things in life, super heroism makes the most sense to her. So when they time came that she was nominated for a position with the League, she jumped at the chance. I'd say her marriage to Noble was a good one, for a time. But it eventually became clear to the both of them that despite their feelings for each other, their marriage would be secondary to her heroics. So they parted amicably.

The complication came with Amistad. She loves her son, but there came a point when it became clear that he was more than just precocious, he was on the Spectrum. She's not negligent, but a large part of her doesn't know how to adapt to that while still maintaining a serious super hero career. So in her mind, it was better for Amistad (not easier for her), to have him stay with Noble during her periods with the League and whatever they need, or what she believes they need from her. Her unwillingness to deal with these situations as seen with her conversation with Noble isn't a case of willful ignorance, it's because she didn't prioritize a lot of things in her personal life, big or small, that needed her attention. Whether that be her marriage, or recognizing what could set Amistad off and making sure he had a way of calming himself down.

When it comes to her and Orion, it's important to consider how she treats him versus how people who know him treat him. Lightray may not be the most sensitive of New Gods, but he knows about Orion's claustrophobia and exactly what he needs to calm down and center himself. He receives nothing but support from High Father and Avia. This contrast between how Rocket and her son works versus how the New Gods and Orion works shows in a way how Rocket needs to improve.

When it comes to Orion's traits I remember what John Elder Robison wrote, that there are positive and negative traits. But for the things that are a deep part of us, they aren't good or bad, they simply are. How good or bad they are depends on what they do to you and what people perceive them as. For instance, not looking at people when you talk to them? Not a negative. The rage? Well, I actually treat that as an extension of his autism-coding but, I feel treating things that are beyond our control as entirely a negative.

Now as Alex pointed out with M'comm as a victim of racial and caste prejudice, that does not a complicated villain make. As Linkara put it, "there's a difference between having a sympathetic backstory and being sympathetic", with M'comm being the former. His introduction in season 3 basically shows all we need to know about him; despite his talk about throwing off oppression, he doesn't care about the Bugs at all and how many may die in a fight against the New Gods. He plays the troubled victim card just so he could get a cheap shot in on his sister and when that fails he murders the two metas just to spite her. He plays the victim card on Mars even when his parents and sister try to reconcile. After his genocide plans fail he cowardly abandons his followers when M'gann's wrath comes knocking. He's knocked away every chance of betterment or just walking away from his path of villainy. He's not meant to have transition from sympathetic villain to full blown murderer, he showed up as a full blown murderer and now the drama is to take him down. But I'll get into what I think is going to happen after the last arc is covered.
Matthew
Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!
posted @ Wed, Sep 28, 2022 11:06:14 pm EDT from 64.85.245.77

Hello all. Happy Birthday to Greg.

So, I don't know if you talked about this, but I saw the article up on Dynamite Comics that showed some of the artwork for the new Gargoyles comic. To be honest, it did not impress me all that much, especially when compared to what we got with the SLG comics. Just my opinion.
Adam
posted @ Wed, Sep 28, 2022 9:36:37 pm EDT from 208.87.237.201

Happy birthday to Greg, and many happy returns!

>Matthew: Good points. I can't read minds, so I don't know what rubbed you the wrong way, but: it might be that Amistad's something like 5 or 6, but Rocket is only just now learning that in fact he is a kid who needs her to be in his corner? Or that this is the longest consecutive screentime she's gotten, and it's mostly about her not having learned that yet, whereas nobody else on the Team has had to learn that people in various minorities are people too, let alone had that as 90% of everything they've done in the entire show.

Agreed on the anti-Team having little screentime. They're great fun to watch bounce off each other, but we have hardly any time with them. Same with Zod and co. Especially compared to the previous seasons, this one feels more distracted antagonist-wise.

... I'm really trying to not make a huge wall of text here, but it is still disappointing to me that, while Orion's definitely autism-coded, and of a sort that doesn't usually get much play, all of his autistic traits are negative. I recognize the curtness and mannerisms, but it still really feels to me like the audience isn't supposed to see themselves in him, they're supposed to see themselves in Rocket, and have the same slowly-dawning-empathy realizations as her - and it's doubly dismaying to me that the thing that makes him 'worth' befriending is that he's trying to 'overcome' those traits. Since he has few autistic traits that aren't 'bad,' that don't annoy audience-standin Rocket or kill everyone else's fun, the result of that whole 'you're Overcoming Your Problems' spiel is that it seems like what makes him good is that he's trying to not be autistic. Which kind of sucks (also that those traits are verbally connected to him being Darkseid's kid, something abnormal instead of just... sometimes people have get frustrated easily.)

I get that that probably wasn't the intention, that he's supposed to be an autistic person who also has anger and self-worth issues, but I don't think the actual text of the show draws that distinction well, and given how little good autistic rep there is, I wish we'd had a character who was just proudly not neurotypical without feeling like they had to justify how their brain works to anyone. Or at least some scenes of Lightray or Vykin working with Orion and relying on him so we can see that they know what they're talking about when they say that Rocket is misjudging him.

I don't know, it just doesn't feel like a plot that was meant to be seen by autistic people first and foremost, as opposed to neurotypical people who have to be guided through 'if you're responsible for an autistic kid, that kid's not having meltdowns to annoy you, also they're still a person.' And being reminded that other people need to be walked through that, and that it's so common for people to think that way, is not really what I'm looking for in my superhero story. I don't need a story about Nightwing learning not to be a homophobe, I don't need a story about Zatanna learning racism is bad, I didn't really need a story about Rocket learning ableism isn't ok.
Karrin Blue
posted @ Wed, Sep 28, 2022 7:40:41 pm EDT from 68.9.88.39

Today is Weisman's birthday,
So ring the birthday bell,
Time to tap antennae,
Upon the birthday shell!

Today is Weisman's birthday,
Bugs know just what to do,
Forage birthday grubstakes,
And Foragers will too!

Today is Weisman's birthday,
Great time to be aliiiiive!
And to celebrate Greg,
With every bug in hiiiiiiivvvve!
Matthew
Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!
posted @ Wed, Sep 28, 2022 5:05:09 pm EDT from 64.85.245.77

Happy Birthday, Greg Weisman!

I think the take on Orion was great, I had some aesthetic issues maybe, it was a good voice for the character and well performed but I would have liked to see some more subtle layers in the acting.

I think largely the purpose of the "arcs" in YJ Season 4 are misunderstood. The season is definitely not an anthology story like some of the others are. Weirdly. Despite the way it's structured. The overarching plot is really supreme here. We just see aspects of it from different angles through each arc. Like in season 3 while everything leads to the overarching plot, generally speaking the sort of incidental stories are much more ascendant I'd argue.

So looking at it that way, I think is better really. I also think the focus is less on the OG team members and more on a concept. First arc is about Mars, second about the League of Shadows, third about Dr. Fate, fourth about Atlantis, and then largely this arc is about New Genesis itself.

The neurodivergent stuff in the story I find kinda hard to talk about. The main plot is so far removed from earth and Raquel's family that the two plots feel *so* disconnected. The portrayal I don't have strong feelings about, it felt respectful and not overdone to me, like I said, it was downplayed and that made it feel *real* to me. There's no great crisis in Raquel's life, she's just dealing with stuff that a lot of people have to go through. But that isn't really connected to what she's going to go through on New Genesis, largely because Orion is only kind of peripherally there, and even Raquel is only kind of peripherally there. Neither is core to the battle. Forager (Purple) and Tomar-Re are really the ones who get big damn hero moments at the climax of the story.

And again, I do genuinely think it's *adorable* that Orion and Raquel bond, and that in the next arc Orion specifically asks after her. But that's it, it's just cute. And that, again is *fine* really. I don't think your core/POV character needs to be the hero, or the focal point, but the sort of framing of the story is "Raquel doesn't get her son" - "Raquel goes into space" - "Raquel comes back and understands her son better". And that just is not the *core* of the story really. The core of the story at this point is the stuff going on with Superboy and the Green Lanterns and Metron. Which Raquel has almost nothing to do with, other than being our gateway of sorts into those elements. She has no especially significant relationship with Connor, and she doesn't really know the Green Lanterns, the Foragers or Metron nor is she really thematically tied to them.

I'm not sure I agree with you Matthew, I don't think the framing of the story is that she needs to learn to be a good mom, she treats her son with compassion. If anything, if she were a worse mom the arc would be a lot clearer and easier. She's a bad mom, she goes into space, comes home a good mom. But that's not what the story is, and I think the show would be worse if it was.

M'Comm I think is vicious enough, but by making him a victim of like caste and racial prejudice, and by sort of ending his story with him getting a sympathetic ending of sorts, it kind of dilutes his role. There's also a few scenes which are pretty obvious attempts to humanize him, but they're kind of stuck in-between where sometimes he is a sympathetic victim of racial prejudice and sometimes he's a mean bully who wants to kill people. Rather than being both and him sort of transitioning into becoming more and more sinister through out the season. I think... I think what it comes down to is I wanted to be disappointed that he was helping subjugate the people on Apokalips or setting genocide bombs and I wasn't even surprised.

I think he worked a lot better in season 3 where he came across as kind of an innocent who was trying to make himself seem bigger and crueler than he actually was.

Ironically, I think Lor-Zod kind of hits that spot better. He is both an understandable character (not sympathetic obviously) WHILE being a vicious bully. That's the best way I can characterize it at least.
Alex (or Aldrius)
Check out my anime podcast "Two Gays One Episode" on Spotify or YouTube!
posted @ Wed, Sep 28, 2022 2:57:57 pm EDT from 70.48.44.13

Hau'oli La Hanau, Greg!
Masterdramon - [kmc12009 at mymail dot pomona dot edu]
"Inside of every demon is a rainbow." - Charlie Morningstar
posted @ Wed, Sep 28, 2022 1:22:13 pm EDT from 98.150.138.224

A very Happy Birthday indeed, Greg!
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posted @ Wed, Sep 28, 2022 10:13:34 am EDT from 74.74.246.146

Happy birthday, Greg!
Todd Jensen
posted @ Wed, Sep 28, 2022 9:53:01 am EDT from 70.176.217.135

Been meaning to post how much I enjoyed reading those premises and springboards for Disney's Hercules. A bummer most of it was rejected, but hey, they really make me excited about what we might see in future flashbacks with the upcoming Gargoyles comic, and perhaps even a spin-off (separate comic, specific arcs in the main title, I'm not picky!) like TimeDancer and New Olympians.

And what better time than today -- Happy Birthday, Greg Weisman!! Best wishes for today and in this next trip around the Sun :-)
Phoenician
Gus: "I always forget you're there." Hooty: "I forget I'm here toooooo."
posted @ Wed, Sep 28, 2022 3:42:05 am EDT from 54.219.90.27

So now we come to Rocket's arc and to New Genesis. A part of me really likes this arc because we get an even bigger and better look into the politics and conflict of the New Gods, but a part of me thinks this also encapsulates some of the bigger issues of the season.

For starters there's Rocket herself and her place in the story setting. The has been a common occurrence for season 4, despite it ostensibly being each characters' arc, it feels more like they're just along for the ride rather than an active part. Rocket may have volunteered to be part of ambassador party for the heroes, but unlike Forager she doesn't have that big of a stake in the New Genesis politics nor that of the galaxy as a whole. And unlike Jay, she doesn't really do much to endear herself to them either, at least at first.

Rocket was introduced in the penultimate episode of season 1 and got little characterization in comparison to the others. This isn't helped when at the start of season 2 she's the with the Justice League and therefore separate from the heroes of the Team. Even in season 3 when the story has shifted away from focusing solely on the young heroes of the Team, she's still largely absent from the overall story. So this marks the first time she's taken center stage after being a bit player for so long.

Having her arc be focused on learning a lesson is....risky. And I'm still not sure on how well it worked. I'm not going to say no to characters learning better awareness, overcoming prejudices or moving past ignorance and getting a better sense of understanding. But I don't know if using such an established character for a learned lesson story was the right one, like she needed to have this adventure for her to start taking being a mother to a child on the Spectrum seriously. Something about it just rubs me the wrong way and I can't quite put my finger on it.

The next big issue comes in the form of our antagonists, the "Anti-Team" as Alex put it. Lor-Zod wastes no time showing what kind of petty, violent, double-dealing b@$t@rd he is and that falls in well with M'comm who's pretty much the same. I actually have to say that M'comm is in fact vicious enough that I take pleasure when he's taken down (more on that in the future). He's a spiteful, sadistic bully who has no problem throwing the ordinary citizens of Apokolips to the wolves if it means getting closer to Darkseid's inner circle. This I have no problem with. What I have issue is that it takes until episode 18 for the villains of the season to really make their presence know. Compare this to season 1 where the Light remained in the shadows for the most part, but their presence constantly loomed. The Reach likewise stayed in the back but there was a presence to them and a chunk of season 2 was unraveling exactly who the Light's partner was and what they're after. Zod, his son and their followers make for compelling villains, but they needed to have an early presence to them, even if just a few scenes rather than just dumping them right into the second to last arc.

On a final, positive note. I think that "Encounter Upon the Razor's Edge" was a great way to honor YJ's sister series Green Lantern the Animated Series. If the show continues on through this or through the companion comics, I won't have a problem at all. I also found the Forager/Forager romance kind of sweet, there's been a lot of relationship drama throughout the series so to have these get together without any major hang ups was refreshing. And finally there's Orion, who I argue was not just the highlight of the arc but one of the best new characters of the season. It's pretty rare to show an adult character on the Spectrum that isn't trying to imitate Rain Man or Sheldon Cooper. His mannerisms, blunt, curt manner of speaking and berserk rage once he gets to boiling point are an insightful look into the Spectrum that I don't think gets the fairest representation. If we do get to continue this series, I would not be opposed to seeing him take a spot on the League.
Matthew
Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!
posted @ Wed, Sep 28, 2022 2:30:59 am EDT from 64.85.245.77

Ah, New Genesis time. Honestly, I'm of two minds here. On the one hand I can recognize that a lot of this story is very well done. On the other hand, the subplot about Amistad is still very disheartening to me, and since it's the core of Rocket's emotional progression, it makes it hard to enjoy a lot of the story. But I'll assume others here don't want to relitigate that (my reasons haven't changed from what's in the archives, and any 'I'd feel better about this if we had an actual active plot-driving autistic character' is a moot point with season 5 in limbo) and move on. The high point of the story for me is still the GLTAS tribute - which feels a bit unfair since it's taking time out of Rocket's arc and basically leaving her with 3 episodes to everyone else's 4, but it's still just so nice to get to see Razer again, and have the culmination of his arc. It's also just very pretty, too (and I'm fond of how 'well, Razer went to meet this guy called Metron-' is the only thing the New Gods need to hear to go from 'what the heck, why is our city being destroyed by the lantern YOU brought here' to 'oh, that's perfectly understandable, say no more, who could blame him').

Forager and Forager... honestly I did find that subplot a bit grating, but whatever. Her becoming a lantern was cool, and I liked Tomar-Re's sacrifice. That brief Lantern fight was very cool, too. Conner and the House of Zod are great.

Also, seconding missing the self-contained stories. The four-episode arcs really make me miss one offs - they're fun in their own way but sometimes you just want a lower decks episode, or a bottle episode, or whatever.
Karrin Blue
posted @ Tue, Sep 27, 2022 10:01:39 am EDT from 72.10.127.194

Arc 5 "Rocket" Ramble

Another really great arc for me. Loved Rocket, loved the family angle, loved the way the New Gods were handled, I liked seeing Lor-Zod and his team as sort of an "anti-team", the Metron stuff was great, I LOVED the Green Lantern stuff, it pretty much single-handedly got me to watch the entirety of the Green Lantern Animated Series, and that was good too so. All around great arc.

I love the take on some of the New Genesis stuff here. This is sort of a difficult subject to incorporate because it's been done quite a few times before, and I think very successfully in terms of the Superman: The Animated Series. The New Gods mythology also requires a *plethora* of lore and exposition. I watched this with my cousin, who knows very little about the New Gods. And he was a little confused, we watched the Superman: The Animated Series episodes featuring Orion & Apokalips & Darkseid, and they opened up their New Gods storytelling with the Mother Box showing Superman a little short infotainment video about the history of Apokalips & New Genesis and I think that helped a bit.

Not a big issue for me, though, all things considered. I've honestly always liked that Young Justice doesn't hold hands about arcane comic lore, a lot of it is pretty easy to just infer from visuals and personalities. White-haired man dressed like a shepherd is good, man with fiery eyes who looks like he hangs out in hell is bad. It all works.

M'Comm continues to kind of be an issue for me. I feel like he hits a weird spot. He's not sympathetic or humanistic enough for me to sympathize with him, and he's also not really outright vicious enough for it to be much fun when he gets taken down. He just leaves me feeling kind of ambivalent unfortunately. And I really *want* to like him. Having said that, I thought his dynamic with Lor-Zod and Mantis was great. Lor-Zod makes a good impression, I think the character was a *little* young for Phil Morris's baritone, but he does a great job with the character.

I can't quite remember which arc had the Superboy stuff where, so I'll just talk about it now. I really liked this for Superboy. This was a cool way to introduce the Phantom Zone prisoners, who have been a bit hokey as far as villains go over the years. They're kind of weirdly archaic in theory. Mostly because they're so associated with Terrence Stamp's portrayal from the second Superman film I think. Beyond that, what do you really do with a team of all-powerful supervillains who want to conquer the world. Well... this. I love the use of cult imagery here, the song is great. I love how Superboy is seduced by Zod, Zod is genuinely persuasive and compelling.

Superboy's mindset is also really clear here and it works really well.

Rocket is another character here who's just kind of like a catalyst or sort of centrepiece for this wacky outer space story about near immortal gods and aliens and space ships. I'm kind of, of two minds on her arc really. To an extent. On the one hand I like how sort of normal her arc is. She's just struggling with life. She's a single mom, trying to co-parent with her ex for a kid who has particular needs that she doesn't necessarily understand. And the opening scene really just sets up that she's not good at it. The closest thing she has to a moment of crisis is that a subway station is closed and it upsets her son.

I LOVE it, because it's so normal. There is no dramatic impetus, there is no light switch that Raquel needs to flip to become a good mom, she's going to go back and keep living her life, but maybe now she'll have a better attitude, some perspective, a bit more understanding of her situation because of her experiences. It's simple, it's nice. But because it's not very dramatic, there's no real engine to drive her story here. There's no clear arc necessarily. It's just kind of a bunch of stuff that happened. Which, as I've mentioned before, I'm really fine with. There's enough other things going on to make up for it.

Orion I liked a lot. I'm sort of unfortunately comparing it in my mind with other versions of the character (in this case, the Superman:TAS/JL/JLU version played by Ron Perlman), which isn't fair, but there's a lot to like about this version honestly, so it's not like he compares badly anyway. I think there was a tone to the New Genesis characters in the DCAU where they felt sort of grand and elegant and truly super-heroic. The boom tube effect in that show was pure white, and it always felt like rays from heaven or something. And the characters themselves felt like characters out of a bible cartoon or something. And they have a lot more grit in Young Justice (and to be fair *everything* has a lot more grit in Young Justice). It's not worse by any means, just different. In regards to Orion, from my limited understanding of Autism I don't think interpreting Orion as an autistic character is even a stretch frankly. He's a lot more brusque in Young Justice than he's been in other shows I've seen him in, but the sort of core of the character is still very much there. Also I'm a sucker for a story where a character overcomes their mental health struggles. Maybe that's not the right terminology or framing exactly, but when a character who has mental health struggles succeeds. It's nice to see.

The Green Lantern episode we got was so cool, as I said it got me to watch the entire series that was based on. This is one of the episodes which felt refreshing because it was such a stand-alone story. I watched it, it was satisfying, it didn't leave me feeling ambivalent. And I sort of missed those strong self-contained stories a bit with this season. Even if it was setting up Metron and some other elements for other stories. Also Razer was a total smoke-show. That's not really substantial, or important, but it made watching the episode more fun.

I was a *bit* surprised Dee Bradley Baker was playing Tomar-Re when he was played by Jeff Bennett in GL:TAS and Jeff Bennett has been a major cast member in YJ as well, but Dee Bradley Baker was cool and I suppose Bennett may have just been unavailable or there was some good ol' cost-cutting double-casting going on with Baker.

Oh, and the Foragers... I'm indifferent. It was cute. Reciting Shakespeare with third person pronouns was cute. I really liked that femme Forager became a Green Lantern. That was a cool surprising twist.

I think that's everything. It was great. Thoroughly enjoyed watching all four episodes.
Alex (or Aldrius)
Check out my anime podcast "Two Gays One Episode" on Spotify or YouTube!
posted @ Mon, Sep 26, 2022 11:38:14 pm EDT from 70.48.44.13

We got another unused "Hercules" pitch from Greg, this time about Poseidon's sons (and with a sort of crossover to another Disney animated movie) - with one of them being Theseus, whom Greg did get to write a "Hercules" episode for, though in a different direction (the one that made him a sort of Greek mythology-era version of Batman).
Todd Jensen
posted @ Mon, Sep 26, 2022 8:48:45 pm EDT from 70.176.217.135

And I get the feeling most of these comments asking/speculating about Season 5 are from the same person despite using different handles.
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posted @ Mon, Sep 26, 2022 3:56:19 pm EDT from 74.74.246.146

And it's a bit silly to ask about the fifth season as Young Justice's future is still very much in limbo at this point.
Matthew
Ain't nothing crazy 'bout me but my brain!
posted @ Mon, Sep 26, 2022 3:50:30 pm EDT from 64.85.245.77

This isn't the question queue, and also, that entire question is very clearly a spoiler request, so it shouldn't go in the question queue either.
Karrin Blue
posted @ Mon, Sep 26, 2022 2:39:25 pm EDT from 72.10.127.194

Will Scott Menville & Hynden Walch voice another Animated Superhero Couple & Mento & Elasti-Woman in The 5th Season of Young Justice? Will Scott Menville, Khary Payton, Greg Cipes, Tara Strong, & Hynden Walch voice another Animated Superhero Team & The Doom Patrol again in The 5th Season of Young Justice?
zareth jones - [zarethjones29 at gmail dot com]
zareth jones
posted @ Mon, Sep 26, 2022 2:03:46 pm EDT from 73.48.77.99

First.
Todd Jensen
posted @ Mon, Sep 26, 2022 9:05:30 am EDT from 70.176.217.135