Todd: Kind of a reverse King Arthur in Pendragon situation there. I've always loved his shocked reaction "this- is London?" The town he'd left became this sprawling metropolis. Though his use of the name "London" might be anachronistic, I'm not sure.
Jurgan
posted @ Thu, Nov 20, 2025 1:37:07 pm EST from 129.24.53.186

Oh, and sorry again for the double post, but one thing I forgot to mention: in the "American Revolution" documentary-film that I mentioned, they brought up about how, at the time of the Revolution, New York City occupied just the southern tip of Manhattan. If a Timedancing Brooklyn wound up in that era, I'd certainly like to see his response at it being so much smaller than the city he was familiar with (not to mention that a lot of the familiar landmarks wouldn't even have been built yet).
Todd Jensen
posted @ Thu, Nov 20, 2025 8:37:27 am EST from 68.99.93.213

PHOENICIAN - I've had a creativity demon for a while about gargoyles in the "New Amsterdam" era, inspired by Washington Irving.

Washington Irving wrote a humorous re-imagining of New York during the Dutch period (admittedly not as well-known nowadays as "Rip Van Winkle" or "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow"), giving it a sort of mock-epic tone (when the Dutch settlers at New Amsterdam get into a fight - really a skirmish-level event - with some Swedish neighbors, Irving turns it into a Homeric battle, complete with the gods from Mt. Olympus taking sides as they did in the Trojan War). There's a passage in it that could be re-imagined from a "Gargoyles" perspective. Pieter Stuyvesant, the last Dutch governor of New Amsterdam (a colorful figure with a fierce temper and a wooden leg) is leading an expedition up the Hudson river when he and his followers supposedly sight "a gang of merry roistering devils, frisking and curveting on a flat rock, which projected into the river, and which is called the Duyvel's Dans-Kamer to this very day". I had the idea that, in the Gargoyles Universe, Stuyvesant and his men had actually caught a glimpse of some local gargoyles (who obviously didn't survive further European settlement).
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posted @ Thu, Nov 20, 2025 8:20:37 am EST from 68.99.93.213

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posted @ Thu, Nov 20, 2025 12:53:03 am EST from 152.32.100.60

Todd: I certainly hope Brooklyn visits historic Manhattan, if only so we can keep referencing "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" by We Might Be Giants, [SPOILER] "Even old New York was once New Amsterdam" [/SPOILER] XD
Phoenician
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posted @ Wed, Nov 19, 2025 9:47:45 pm EST from 68.2.64.232

Sorry for the double-post, but I was watching the latest episode of the new Ken Burns documentary on the American Revolution last evening, and noticed Keith David in the ending credits for the "voice-overs" (people reading the writings of participants in the American Revolution as if playing them). It felt like a particularly appropriate episode for him to be in, since much of the early action of that episode involved New York City, with even a few of the place-names that Goliath's clan took their names from (like the Hudson River and Brooklyn) featuring in it. (It reminds me of my wondering whether Brooklyn's Timedancing might have landed him in earlier moments in Manhattan's history.)
Todd Jensen
posted @ Wed, Nov 19, 2025 7:51:24 am EST from 68.99.93.213

I remember that book; I bought it many years ago, but didn't keep it long. I donated it, I recall, to the 2001 Gathering (the only Gathering I ever attended). Xanatos getting locked in the lion cage was indeed one of the parts I most remembered. (Another was that it called Owen "Mr. Owen".)
Todd Jensen
posted @ Tue, Nov 18, 2025 6:49:59 pm EST from 68.99.93.213

With the Gargoyles Little Golden Book release a few months ago, I've been thinking back on the other Gargoyles children's books I had as a kid. Most have entries on GargWiki, but one that doesn't seem to is the 'Gargoyles Book and Rubber Stamp Kit,' which came with a small storybook entitled "May the Best Gargoyle Win," where the reader had to put the characters into the illustrated scenes using the provided stamps. Unfortunately, I don't have access to my old copy currently, but it was somewhat interesting as possibly the only Gargoyles book that told an original story (albeit a very juvenile one), as opposed to adapting TV material. I mostly just remember that the story took place primarily in a zoo. I did find Ask Greg Comment Room posts from Todd and Blaise mentioning the book back in March 2009...the main thing everyone seems to remember is the gargoyles locking Xanatos in the lions' cage at the end.
Craig
posted @ Tue, Nov 18, 2025 3:26:55 pm EST from 69.118.30.106

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posted @ Tue, Nov 18, 2025 1:32:27 am EST from 152.32.100.60

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Algae
'Nuff said
posted @ Mon, Nov 17, 2025 11:45:41 am EST from 88.87.179.191

I was watching a short documentary film on the Statue of Liberty on the local PBS station last evening, and it struck me that the Statue might be considered a "symbolic protector-figure statue", the way gargoyle sculptures traditionally are. It looks far more human-like than gargoyles, obviously, but it's still a statue that represents a "protector-figure". And, from that angle, it seems all the more appropriate now that it's made several appearances in "Gargoyles" (aside from the fact that any series set mainly in New York is going to have to include periodic shots of it, to help establish the setting), in the same way so many other statues with that kind of atmosphere have.

(And we've seen a few other examples of more human-like statuary getting a role in the series, such as the statues Oberon animated in "The Gathering Part Two" - two were of basically human-looking figures, with the third being a winged lion. I hope we'll get a discussion of them as part of the next "Voices from the Eyrie" podcast.)
Todd Jensen
posted @ Mon, Nov 17, 2025 8:22:20 am EST from 68.99.93.213

MATTHEW> I knew about everything but the Deborah Strang bit. 'Tis a tragedy that we never got a true coming together of my two fave Marvel shows.
Algae
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posted @ Mon, Nov 17, 2025 5:57:33 am EST from 88.87.179.191

So I was going through the trivia of Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes (one of the better Marvel animated shows before the executives started messing things up) and I found a few things I hadn't seen before.
One of the more well known pieces was that Josh Keaton had recorded lines as Spidey before the character was redubbed by Ultimate's Drake Bell. The common theory was that it was meant to tie-in to Spectacular considering Grey DeLisle reprised her role as Betty Brant and Daran Norris also appeared (though not as J. Jonah Jameson). But what I hadn't discovered until today was that the former showrunner Christopher Yost also wanted Deborah Strang to reprise her role as Aunt May.
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posted @ Mon, Nov 17, 2025 2:59:05 am EST from 184.23.35.150