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Michael Norton writes...

Another Guess at the 14 clans.

1) Manhattan
2) Clones
3) Avalon
4) Ishimura
5) London
6) Guatemala
7) New Olympus
8) Wyvern
9) Venice, Italy
10) Lochness
11) Camelot
12) Island of Cyprus
13) Easter Island
14) Egypt

Greg responds...

Eight full points. Two half points.

tyca

Response recorded on June 23, 2000

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Bengali writes...

Another Try For The Clans Contest!

1.Manhatten, USA
2.London, England
3.Ishimura, Japan
4.Guatemala, Guatemala
5.Labyrinth, USA
6.Avalon, Who knows?
7.Paris, France
8.New Olympus, Somewhere in one of the Oceans
9.Loch Ness, Scotland
10.Easter Island, Pacific Ocean
11.Xanadu, China
12.Camelot, England
13.L.A., California
14.Queensland, Australia

{This ones your hardest contest yet!}

Greg responds...

("Guatemala, Guatemala"? Gee, where in Guatemala is that?)

Ten full points (including Guatemala).

And maybe a quarter point.

Response recorded on June 23, 2000

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Shari B writes...

Hi Greg!
Thanks so much for answering (one way or another) all of our questions, I really appreciate all the extra time you have put in here. I don't have a question right now, but I am going to participate in the clans contest. Here is my first guess at the 14 clans...

1 - London, England
2 - Ishimura, Japan
3 - Guatemala
4 - Loch Ness, Scotland
5 - Greece
6 - New Olympus
7 - Camelot
8 - Avalon
9 - Manhattan
10 - Labyrinth (Clones)
11 - Paris, France
12 - Antarctica
13 - Shang'rala
14 - Giza

Now I just have to wait and see if my score actually helps me figure anything out!

Greg responds...

Good guess.

Nine full points. Two half points.

tyca

Response recorded on June 23, 2000

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Golem writes...

14 clan contest
1.Manhatten
2.Labyrinth
3.Avalon
4.Guatemala
5.London,England
6.Ishimura,Japan
7.New Olympus
8.Scone,Scotland
9.Egypt
10.Greece
11.Paris
12.China
13.Ireland
14.India

This was accomplished with a lot of logic.

Greg responds...

So is the correct answer.

You got eight full points and one half point.

Response recorded on June 21, 2000

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Anonymous writes...

Here is my guess on the 14 clans.
1.Avalon(Gabriel and Co.)
2.Manhatten(Goliath and co.)
3.Labyrinth(Deliah and the Clones)
4.Ishimura
5.Guatemala
6.London,England
7.New Olympus
8.Paris
9.Cairo,Egypt
10.Greece
11.Ireland
12.China(mentioned in the season 1 bible)
13.Scone,Scotland(one clan left in Scotland and it is probably not the clan at Loch Ness or they would have been seen in Monsters)
14.Canada

Greg responds...

Eight full points. One half point.

But if you list yourself as Anonymous, then how could you win even if you got the answers right.

tyca

Response recorded on June 21, 2000

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F.A writes...

Whatever happened to the Guatamalan Sun Amulet? The last time we saw it Broadway was holding it when he turned to stone.

Greg responds...

Broadway still has it. But eventually I would have had Zafiro come and get it. (Or maybe Jade & Turquesa en route back from Avalon.)

By the way, Elisa Gabrielli who played Obsidiana on Gargoyles is the voice of the Doll Demon in 3x3 EYES, which I just finished voice directing for New Generation Pictures and Pioneer. Watch for it on video and DVD. (And sorry for the plug.)

Response recorded on June 14, 2000

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Craychek writes...

Well, here's a guess at the 14 clans. I don't think all of them are right, but this list is the best I can come up with right now.

1. Manhattan*
2. Wyvern, Scottland
3. London*
4. Guatamala*
5. Avalon*
6. Ishmara*
7. New Olympus*
8. Clones*
9. Xanadu
10. Camalot
11. Loch Ness
12. Cold Trio
13. Paris
14. Rome

Greg responds...

Does spelling count?

Anyway, nine full points and three half points. tyca

Response recorded on June 13, 2000

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Chapter XIII: "Reawakening" (background rambling)

I'm trying something different with this ramble. And because of recent difficulties, I'm going to break the Ramble into two parts. My thoughts on reviewing the episode last Friday night will need to be recreated from scratch. And I'll get to that as soon as I can.

But first I thought you guys might appreciate a little background. What follows is a long memo that I wrote to Story Editor Michael Reaves after receiving the first draft of writer Brynne Chandler Reaves' outline on our thirteenth and final episode of the first season. Pay careful attention to the date of the memo and the title of the episode. I'll comment on both sometime in the next few days...

THE MEMO (unedited):

To: Michael Reaves Date: 4-10-94

From: Greg Weisman Ext: 7436

Re: Notes on "The Awakening" / Outline for 4319-013 of GARGOYLES

GENERAL NOTES
This is a tough one, because in this episode, we have a very specific mission, which is to remind Goliath of his. In order to accomplish this, I'd like to focus both our efforts and Goliath's soul-searching. These aren't simple concepts but I'm gonna try and go through them in baby steps. This is less for our benefit than for the benefit of our audience & Goliath. (Remember, Goliath is a determined thinker if not a quick one.)

Goliath spends the episode searching for the true meaning behind the gargoyle motto, "A gargoyle can no more stop protecting the castle than breathing the air."

We begin by defining our terms. Goliath first needs to understand the following equation: "Castle = Home = Family = Community". He more or less learned the Castle through Family section in "ENTER MACBETH", but we'll need to reiterate the lesson in some way for our audience. Then we need to take him the final step from Family to Community.

After that (or perhaps simultaneously), he needs to decide on what is meant by "protect". Protect what? The physical structure he lives in? No. Again, Home leads into Family which leads into Community.

Protect why? To survive in a hostile environment? Ultimately and by the end of the episode Goliath decides/remembers that to survive is not enough. Coldstone and Demona provide cautionary proof; both of them are abominations of a sort, created in the name of "Survival". Survival ("breathing the air") is important, but clearly survival isn't enough. Goliath and his clan need purpose. They need to return to the mission: Protect the castle (i.e. protect the community).

This dovetails nicely w/Elisa's mission as a cop: "To protect and serve." And leaves us, at the end of our first season, with a more pro-active group of heroes.

SPECIFIC NOTES
Just a few specifics that aren't covered in the beat outline that follows.

Page 1.
--The trio saw snow last episode. Let's make the winter weather the backdrop to the action. Not part of the story.
--I don't think we want to light any fires in the clock tower.

Page 2.
--We no longer need Madame Serena in this story. Plus she adds another new element to a pretty full plate.
--Remember this is one of the spells that Demona ripped from the Grimorum back in "Temptation".

Page 3.
--Coldstone wouldn't name himself. It's not gargoylean thing to do. And he hasn't been awake long enough to know he needs a name. Let Demona do it.

Page 7
--I think we can fit the action of this story into one night, so this is kind of a moot point, but I don't think Demona would risk sleeping as stone in Xanatos' castle. She doesn't trust anyone that much.
--Let's not overplay Matt's conspiracy fettish. It's o.k., but we don't want him to come off as a "babbling".

Page 11
--Remember, unless we're getting biblical here, Gargoyles weren't "created". They have very strong territorial and protective instincts. These instincts are as strong as their survival instinct. But I want to make sure we don't imply that they were magically created by someone or something who gave them a mission.

Finally, if I could recommend a title change... how about "Re-Awakening" instead of "The Awakening". I think it's a bit more appropriate all the way around.

ACT ONE
1. Prologue #1 - Present Day Manhattan - All-Nite Grocery - Winter Night
--It's snowing in Manhattan and will continue to snow until the last scene.
--A lone thief holds up the owner of a small and otherwise empty All-Nite grocery store.
--Thief tells the owner: "I guess we just live in dangerous times.

2. Prologue#2 - Flashback to 994 A.D. Scotland - Castle Wyvern - Night
(Note this scene happened off-camera during part one of the five-parter, somewhere around page 24 of script #4319-001.)
--Goliath informs Hudson that they must leave to harry the vikings far away.
--He'll need Hudson's tracking skills.
--Demona and "pre-Coldstone" gargoyle (Goliath's rookery brother) are also present.
--Magus comes thru and says or does something obnoxious.
--Demona, secretly desperate for Goliath to bring them all along, asks why they bother protecting the human's castle at all?
--Pre-Coldstone agrees: "Let them keep the castle, we can survive anywhere."
--(We see he is of a semi-simlar mind-set to Demona, which explains why she uses him 1000 years later for Coldstone.)
--Hudson firmly states the gargoyle mission statement: "A gargoyle can no more stop protecting the castle than breathing the air..."
--Goliath instructs his rookery brother to stay w/Demona and protect.

3. Present Day - Winter - Clock Tower - Night
--Goliath's been daydreaming (at night) about old memories.
--Trio are going to a movie; they invite Hudson along.
--Hudson's a couch potato. He'll wait to see it on cable. Besides he's got to guard their home.
--Trio: We live over a police station. What could happen? We don't have to guard the place every night.
--Hudson tosses off gargoyle truism: "A gargoyle can no more stop protecting the castle than breathing the air..." (But that's just an excuse to be left alone.)
--Goliath reacts silently, realizing their mission has lost meaning for the gargoyles, even Hudson. Maybe even himself.
--Trio leaves ("We don't even live in a castle anymore...")
--As Elisa enters.
--She wants to know how gargoyles are "surviving" the cold weather.
--G says they're fairly immune... to the elements.
--Elisa starts to leave for her shift w/offhand remark: "Time to do a little of the old 'Protect and Serve'."
--G stops her to find out what she means.
--Police motto.
--But what does it mean? Protect who?
--(Maybe Elisa can get us from Castle to Family here.)
--Goliath decides to accompany Elisa on the night shift.
--Which is a bit problematic now that she has a partner.

4. Castle
--Demona has talked a reluctant Xanatos into another attempt to destroy Goliath.
--Xanatos & Demona use science & sorcery to revive creature made from cybernetics and mismatched gargoyle parts. (The head is that of Goliath's rookery brother, our pre-Coldstone, augmented by cybernetic-eye & etc.)
--Demona names him Coldstone.
(--Perhaps she represents Xanatos as her servant. Perhaps he allows it.)
(--Note: in this episode, I think we want to sense a tension between X & D, but I don't think we want to bust them up here. It's distracting and we have enough to deal with.)
--Coldstone's confused. Last thing he remembers is Goliath & Hudson leaving the castle. Then came sunrise and oblivion.
--Demona: "Goliath abandoned us to the mercy of humans."
--He has been seduced by their beliefs.
--It is because of him that you look like this....
--It's mirror time.
--Does audience see him or do we save that revelation?

5. Manhattan Streets / All-Nite Grocery / Rooftop across the street.
--Elisa & Matt are driving in her car.
--Goliath is following them from above. (She's given him a walkie-talkie or headset or something. She's basically wearing a wire so that he can be on her shift with her.)
--They investigate All-Nite grocery store robbery from scene 1. (Not a crime in progress. Remember, they are detectives, not beat cops.)
--While Matt questions the owner...
--Goliath, watching from above, is able to talk quietly w/Elisa.
--We get from Family to Community.
--Elisa: No one wants to live a prisoner of their own castle anymore. We live in a community. The whole community needs to work together...
--G: "To survive." (He still hasn't gotten it yet.)
--Radio call: "All available units."

6. Times Square.
--That tortured soul, Coldstone, is going bonkers.
--(He hated "Cats". No, wait... he hates humans.)
--(Physical strength only. No robotic weaponry yet.)
--Morgan and other cops are just securing the perimeter, keeping people clear.
--From a distance, Goliath surmises another Xanatos robot ploy. (He sees the occasional metallic glint. The rest is in shadow.) He won't be dragged into another of Xanatos' schemes.
--Elisa & Matt don't have that luxury. They approach the thing. Tell it to cease and desist, etc.
--Coldstone prepares to throw a small car at them or something.
--As Goliath reacts, we fade out.

ACT TWO
7. Times Square.
--With Elisa endangered, Goliath doesn't hesitate to intervene and save her and a flabergasted Matt.
--Now Coldstone really goes ballistic. Literally. Barrel rises from robotic arm and fires.
--Goliath dodges or maybe he is hit, but Coldstone is too shocked to notice. --He didn't know he could do that.
--(Xanatos had a pre-programmed battle mode built-into his circuitry.)
--While C is figuring this out, Goliath comes in and smashes him.
--It's only in close that Goliath realizes he's not fighting a robot.
--(Is this the audience's first full look at Coldstone too??)
--And it's only now that Coldstone recognizes G.
--But all this convinces Coldstone that Demona was telling the truth.
--Goliath is attacking his own rookery brother to defend a human.
--But Goliath is out-matched, and soon losing.

8. Inside Orpheum Theatre (Times Square).
--Trio are watching movie from balcony.
--(As Broadway did in "Deadly Force").
-- "There sure are an awful lot of explosions in this movie."
--But are those explosions coming from outside?
--Suddenly movie stops. House lights come up.
--On ground level, Morgan is ushering people out the back entrance, calmly and for their own safety.
--Trio exit to see what's going on.

9. Times Square.
--Trio arrive in time to save Goliath from Coldstone.
--Coldstone surrounded by all four gargoyles.
--Looks like the tide of battle might have shifted.
--We see gargoyles thru Coldstone's robot POV.

10. Castle.
--Matchcut to Xanatos office monitor.
--Seems he gets a direct feed on whatever Coldstone sees or hears.
--X to D: Looks like sonny-boy's having trouble making friends.
--(No indication that they're going to help yet.)

11. Times Square.
--Goliath does not attack; he's still trying to put everything together.
--Could this abomination really be his rookery brother?
--At first, Goliath doesn't talk to Coldstone, rather he speaks about "it".
--Which of course doesn't endear him to Coldy one bit.
--G tries a kinder, gentler approach.
--Might even be starting to reach him.
--G: What happened to you, pal?
--From off-screen Demona says: "We did."
--Goliath, trio and Coldstone turn to see Demona, Xanatos in Gargoyle armor and a Steel Clan Robot. Fade to black.

ACT THREE
12. Times Square.
--Stand-off.
--Demona: If you're going to bring your whole clan, you can't expect me not to bring mine.
--G: You call that a clan?
--Coldstone is torn, confused. What should he do?
--Demona: "Destroy Goliath. Destroy him, and we survive."
--Coldstone looks down at his cobbled-together form: "Is this survival?"
--Demona tells him not to be fooled by appearance.
--Goliath and the others have been corrupted by humans.
--"We are the only real gargoyles left."
--Travis Marshall pulls up in newsvan.
--While cameraman is setting up, Elisa uses "wire" to warn Goliath.
--Goliath appeals to Xanatos
--(Probably doesn't yet know that Xanatos IS one of the robots.)
--(G thinks he's talking by radio-link via the robots.)
--G: It's your city, X, shouldn't we reconvene someplace less fragile.
--Demona doesn't like the idea, but Xanatos insists.
--(She's not ready to sever their partnership yet).
--Xanatos quietly names a spot that only Goliath (and Elisa via their wire) can hear.
--The eight combatants fly off, severally.
--Marshall only gets the tail end on camera.

13. Clock Tower.
--Hudson sees Marshall's report on t.v.
--Discusses dilemma (theoretically w/Bronx, but he's really talking to himself).
--Goliath told them to stay and guard the tower.
--What should he do?

14. George Washington Bridge.
(Or whatever bridge is closest to Times Square.)
--Your basic battle royale...on the bridge, in the air. Among other things...
--Brooklyn goes after Demona.
--He's still mad at her from "Temptation."
--Which allows Goliath and Coldstone to continue their face-off.
--The Steel Clan robot is destroyed.
--Xanatos is forced to unmask.
--But generally, the bad guys are winning, if barely.
--Coldstone & Goliath plunge into the icy river.

15. The River.
--Coldstone's got a built-in breathing apparatus that extends over his mouth and nose automatically.
--As they struggle underwater, Goliath's losing air and consciousness.
--G. hears Hudson's voice: "A gargoyle can no more stop protecting the castle than breathing the air."
--Suddenly, Goliath is pulled out of the water... by Coldstone.

16. An Ice flow.
--As G. gasps for breath he sees that a battered Demona and Xan have the drop on an even more battered Trio. The fight is over; the good guys lost.
--Demona's glad Coldstone saved G. for her to finish off.
--But Coldstone wants some answers first.
--Coldstone: "You said if Goliath dies. We would survive."
--Again, he indicates himself: "Is that all there is... surviving?"
--Demona's almost tender with him, but what she says is something like: "That's all that counts."
--But Goliath has finally figured it out. Surviving is not enough. To merely survive at all costs is not the gargoyle way. Gargoyles protect the way gargoyles breathe. To forget that leads to true corruption. Not the corruption of humans, or even Coldstone's metallic corruption. But the bitter fanaticism of Demona's corrupt soul. Or something like that.
--Of course, Demona's not just gonna sit there and let Goliath speechify forever.
--She takes aim.
--Coldstone leaps between them, takes the blast and is blown off the ice into the water. He does not resurface.
--Goliath immediately dives in after his brother.
--Demona fires into the water at both of them.
--She is furious at Coldstone's betrayal.
--Trio try to take some advantage of situation, but Xanatos won't allow it.
--Suddenly, the ice seems to be hit from above by a cannonball that sends everyone reeling.
--That was no cannonball that was Bronx. Hudson dropped him from on high.
--Again, the tide has turned. And it's all Xanatos can do to grab Demona and rocket her out of there.
--Goliath comes up for air. There's no sign of Coldstone.
--Goliath has lost his only surviving brother.

17. Epilogue #1 - Bridge.
--The six gargoyles are climbing back up the bridge. (They'll need some height to glide home.)
--Hudson apologizes for abandoning their home, the clock tower.
--Goliath points toward Manhattan and says something like: "The clock tower is where we sleep. But our home is that island. Our castle is Manhattan. And gargoyles always protect their castle... and anyone, human or gargoyle who resides within."
--Elisa pulls up in her car. It took her awhile to get clear of Matt.
--Are they o.k.? Do they need anything?
--Goliath: "I need a detective."

18. Epilogue #2 - All-Nite Grocery - Dawn.
--The thief from scene 1 comes in again.
--The owner is scared at first but the thief is very contrite.
--He gives back all the money and asks the owner to call the police so that he can turn himself in.
--When the flabbergasted owner asks why, the frightened thief replies: "Six monsters and a cop told me to."

19. Rooftop across the street from the All-Nite Grocery - Morning.
--In the cold early morning wind amid hazy sunlight, Elisa stands on the roof across the street from the grocery store amid six horrific stone gargoyles.
--Elisa watches, as Morgan (at the end of his shift) takes the thief away in his squad car.
--Elisa: "Well, it's a start. Xanatos, Demona, you two are next."
--The sun breaks through the clouds, shining brightly on a beautiful winter's day in Manhattan.
--E: "You know, guys, the city feels safer already."
--She leaves them there to sleep and heads home after a long night.
--FADE.

End of memo. My real Ramble should come soon.


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Lexy writes...

Hey Greg!

OK so you planned on making Sora Yama's mate?? well then..

1) I know that you stated that there wasnt anything really in the episode Bushido to show that one way or the other. But I did notice that When they went to roost, Kai and Sora were next to eachother while Yama was way on the other end. Was that just an accident? Or at the time were you (or others) leaning twords her being Kai's mate?

2) Since you were planning on for sure making Sora Yama's mate, then how do you think you would have explained the fact that Yama was going to leave to do the whole 'BadGuys' thing? Was he just gonna be like, "Well, I gots to do what I gots to do, seeya babe." Or..would she come along for the ride or..?:)

and 3) Dose Kai have a mate?
3.5) Did we see her in the Ep?
4) Or was she just ..well not designed yet?

Oh..and if something like this was explained during that lil pencil animated thing at the gathering (for Badguys) forgive my stinky memory. Thanks

Greg responds...

1) No. I was never leaning toward Kai being Sora's mate. Kai is one of her rookery-fathers. And Yama was just in a bad mood.

2) Yama was banished by the clan as a result of "Bushido"... until he could redeem himself. ("The Redemption Squad" was my original name for BAD GUYS.) That enforced distance between Yama and Sora would create some nice romantic obstacles. It makes for good stories.

3) I'm not sure.

3.5) I'm not sure.

4) I'm not sure.

Response recorded on April 07, 2000

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Michael Norton writes...

Another guess at the 14 clans

1) Manhattan
2) Clones
3) Ishimura
4) Guatemala
5) London
6) Avalon
7) New Olympus
8) Moray Scotland
9) Berlin
10) New Zeland
11) China
12) Mexico City
13) Easter Island
14) Nigeria

Greg responds...

FULL POINTS: SIX!

half points: two...

tyca

Response recorded on April 07, 2000

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Michael Norton writes...

Another guess at the 14 clans

1) Manhattan
2) Clones
3) Ishimura
4) Guatemala
5) London
6) Avalon
7) New Olympus
8) Moray Scotland
9) Greece
10) France
11) Ireland
12) China
13) Australia
14) Norway

Greg responds...

FULL POINTS: SIX.

half points: three...

tyca

Response recorded on April 07, 2000

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El Kevino writes...

1.Goliath and Gang(manhattan) 2.Ishimura 3.Guatamala 4.London 5.Clones 6.Avalon 7.New Olympians 8.Babylon(good old Pyramus and Thisbe) 9.Underwater 10.Scotland 11.North Pole 12.Greece 13.Africa(Nigeria perhaps?) 14.Australia
(Yet another feeble attempt to combat with your wonderful imagination, I'd appreciate a number rating, please, even though it will be low, but oh well)

Greg responds...

REMEMBER, I'm looking for clan LOCATIONS, not who's in them.

FULL POINTS: FIVE.

half points: three...

tyca

Response recorded on April 05, 2000

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Lexy writes...

..you get the idea

1) Manhatten
2) Avalon
3) Guatemala
4) London
5) Ishimura
6) New Olympus
7) Clones
8) China
9) Italy
10) Paris
11) Greece
12) Rome
13) Scotland
14) Easter Island

*apologies in advance if you are only allowed to guess a certain number of times*

Greg responds...

Lexy, you can guess as often as you like. But if you don't wait for feedback. I'm not sure how your guesses will get any closer.

Anyway...

FULL POINTS: SEVEN.

half points: three...

(See. It doesn't seem to me that your getting any closer. And since Rome is in Italy, where specifically did you have in mind for your Italy guess?)

Response recorded on April 05, 2000

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lexy writes...

Nuther clan guess..

1) Manhatten
2) Avalon
3) Ishimura
4) London
5) Guatemala
6) New Olympus
7) China
8) Clones
9) Paris
10) Rome
11) Greece
12) Italy
13) Camalot
14) Easter Island

Greg responds...

FULL POINTS: SEVEN.

half points: three...

tyca

Response recorded on April 05, 2000

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Lexy writes...

Dear Greg,

When you say 'clans' you mean a clan right? In other words..you are not ONLY including Gargoyles right? I mean, when Goliath invited Derek to join his clan, Derek responded saying that he now had his own. And The New Olympions have gargs..but they arent pure either. I just was wondering if it was within the bounderies of the contest to ask this question. Define clan for this contest. Gargoyle only?

Greg responds...

Gargoyle clans.

That doesn't mean that these clans don't have honorary members (as Elisa is to the Manhattan clan).

But I'm not sure what your referring to with regard to the New Olympians. Unpure?

Response recorded on April 05, 2000

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Stupid aka lexy:P writes...

AHHHHHHH!!! DISREGAURD my last post on the clans..GEEZ I thought I put Ishimura down..what a dork..

OK here we go again!!

1) Manhatten
2) Avalon
3) ISHIMURA (geez)
4) New Olympus
5) London
6) Gutemala
7) clones
8) Paris
9) Greece
10) Rome
11) China
12) Italy
13) Camelot
14) Scotland

Greg responds...

FULL POINTS: SEVEN.

half points: four...

tyca. But check your spelling.

Response recorded on April 05, 2000

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Lexy writes...

For the Clans contest..

London
Manhattan
China
Avalon
Guatemala
New Olympus
Paris
Easter Island
Lochness, Scotland
Camelot
Clones
Rome
Greece
Italy

Greg responds...

FULL POINTS: SEVEN.

half points: three...

Response recorded on April 04, 2000

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Vashkoda writes...

another try:
London, Ishimura, Guatamala, New Olympus, Avalon, Manhattan
Paris, Camelot, Easter Island, Loch Ness (Scotland), Antarctica, Wyvern (Scotland), Rome (Italy), Mars

Greg responds...

(I do know that Rome is in Italy.)

Full points: Nine.
Half points: Two.

tyca

Response recorded on April 04, 2000

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Vashkoda writes...

14 clans?:
London, Ishimura, Guatamala, New Olympus, Avalon, Manhattan
Paris, Camelot, Easter Island, Loch Ness, Antarctica, Wyvern (Scotland), Clones (Manhattan), Rome

Greg responds...

I'll give you a full point for Guatemala, even though you misspelled it.

Full points: Nine.

Half points: Three.

The best score yet, I believe.

Tyca.

Response recorded on April 04, 2000

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Brandeewine writes...

Another guess at the 14 clans:

1. Manhattan
2. Avalon
3. Japan
4. London
5. Guatemala
6. Mutates
7. Scotland
8. Clones
9. Steel Clan
10. China
11. "Cold" trio
12. Australia
13. Africa
14. New Olympus

Greg responds...

Full points: Five.

Half points: Four.

(Is this the exact same guess from two posts ago?)

tyca

Response recorded on April 03, 2000

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Brandeewine writes...

Here I go again...
14 Clans:

1. Manhattan
2. Avalon
3. Japan
4. London
5. Guatemala
6. Mutates
7. Scotland
8. Clones
9. Paris
10. China
11. "Cold" trio
12. Australia
13. Africa
14. Steel Clan

Greg responds...

Full points: Five.

Half points: Four. Again, "Japan" receives only a half point, because what we know is more specific than that.

And "Clones" -- c'mon kids, that's not a location. I've been giving it a half point, but I really shouldn't even be that generous.

(I'm giving more hints, cuz this contest is so impossible.)

Response recorded on April 03, 2000

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Jay writes...

A guess at the clans:

1.London
2.Ishimura
3.Guatemala
4.New Olympus
5.Xanadu, China
6.Rome
7.Paris
8.Avalon
9.Manhattan
10. The Labyrinth (Mutates & Clones in Manhattan)
11. Steel calan New York
12.Journeying around the globe (Cold Stone, Steel, & Fire)
13.Easter Island
14.SpaceStation

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Erin responds:

123456789

You did a good job, but you got some wrong. Although you got many points.

Greg responds:

Nine full points. Good job. tyca

Response recorded on April 01, 2000

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Brandeewine writes...

The 14 Clans:

1. Manhattan
2. Avalon
3. Japan
4. London
5. Guatemala
6. Mutates
7. Scotland
8. Clones
9. Paris
10. China
11. "Cold" trio
12. Australia
13. Africa
14. New Olympus

Am I anywhere close?

Greg responds...

You get six full points. Plus three half points -- including a half point for "Japan", since a more complete answer would be Ishimura.

Response recorded on March 31, 2000

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Pyro X writes...

Clones:

1) Manhattan
2) Ishimura
3) Guatamala
4) London
5) Clones
6) Avalon
7) Xanadu, China
8) Paris
9) Lochness
10) Greece
11) South Pole [Antarctica]
12) Australia
13) Space somewhere
14) Isreal

Hmmm... someone's gotta win this soon...

Greg responds...

I think you meant to head this entry with the word "Clans" not "Clones". Cuz there aren't that many clones out there.

Anyway, eight full points and two half points for a total score of nine.

tyca

Response recorded on March 31, 2000

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Michael Norton writes...

Another guess at the 14 clans.

1)Manhattan
2)Clones
3)Ishimura
4)London
5)Guatemala
6)Avalon
7)New Olympus
8)Wyvern,Scotland
9)China
10)Greece
11)Loch Ness
12)Paris
13)Rome
14)Moscow

Greg responds...

Very good guess. Nine whole points. Two half points. Three complete misses.

tyca

Response recorded on March 25, 2000

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Anonymous writes...

Mr. Weisman

1. Did you give names to ALL the Ishimura gargoyles?

2. At the time of the shows stoppage, (season 2) Ishimura was the best of the 5 clans population/stability wise?

3. Is ishimura the oldest Clan? If not, What is? 'sides manhattan

Greg responds...

1. No.

2. Not necessarily.

3. What do you mean by "oldest"?

Response recorded on March 24, 2000

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Anonymous writes...

Dear Greg...

Topic Doggoyles Beasts:

1) Did you plan to have an Ep all about Bronx?

2) What was the name of the Beat in Ishimura?

3) Was there a beast in Guatamala and London?

Greg responds...

1. You mean in addition to "Hero of Ulster"? Yeah, sure.

2. I don't know.

3. Not in Guatemala, but yes, in London. (Or rather, just outside London.)

Response recorded on March 24, 2000

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Michael Norton writes...

Greg, thank you for your time and patience.

1)when Kai yells at Yama and Goliath "Gargoyle must not fight Gargoyle!", was he just expressing his personal belief or a Gargoyle custom?

2)If it is a custom, is it a custom of the Ishirmura clan only?

Greg responds...

1.Both.

2. No, theoretically, gargoyles would frown on this everywhere.

Of course, the main thing we were doing there was echoing the "Ape has killed Ape" line from Battle for the Planet of the Apes.

Response recorded on March 24, 2000

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Anonymous writes...

Clan thingy guessing game...

For hardness, on a scale of 1-10, is this contest a 10 for hardness?

1) Manhattan
2) London
3) Guatamala
4) Avalon
5) Clones
6) Ishimura
7) Xanadu, China
8) New Olympus
9) Australia
10) Ireland
11) Wyvern
12) Space somewhere
13) Under Da sea
14) Upstate California

Just guesses!!!

Greg responds...

I think this contest is all but impossible. But I'm not big on quantifying things.

Oh, by the way, you scored an 8.5. :]

tyca

Response recorded on March 24, 2000

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Tana writes...

Greg,

I was just reading some of your responses, and came across one response which made me crack up:

"I think Angela was a virgin even at the time of "The Journey". (Broadway too for that matter.) Not so sure about Ophelia. "

I don't know how many other fans have read Hamlet, or even seen it performed (personally I think reading should be done before viewing). But as it's one of my favorite plays, I found the comment about Ophelia absolutely marvelous. Now I don't read fanfiction, nor do I really write it (I am working on one story as more of a roast towards Stephen Sobatka and Wyrmwolf); but I tell you that one little comment does get the ideas flowing. Like who is our young "hamlet"??

I've always enjoyed all of the Shakespearian refrences, and this little one about Ophelia's purity has definately made a good day out of a bad week. Thnx!

Greg responds...

Uh, Ophelia's mate is Gabriel. Haven't I mentioned that?

Response recorded on March 22, 2000

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Madison writes...

Were you eve planing on putting any other gargess's on the show besides Demona and Angela?

Greg responds...

You mean besides Ophelia, Obsidiana, Sora, Turquesa, Una, Tachi, Delilah and Katana?

Response recorded on March 22, 2000

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Lawrence Stone writes...

Another guess on the 14 Clans
1)Manhatten
2)Avalon
3)London
4)Guatemala
5)Ishimura
6)Clones
7)New Olympus
8)Scotland
9)Ireland
10)Egypt
11)China
12)Greece
13)India
14)Ohio

Greg responds...

Six full points. 3 half points.

tyca

Response recorded on March 21, 2000

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Michael Norton writes...

Is it safe to assume that there are more Gargoyles in London clan than the three that have appeared so far? If so could you give us a ballpark figure of how many there are? Thank You

Greg responds...

There's a whole clan living on an estate just outside London. It's a good-sized clan.

Response recorded on March 19, 2000

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Todd Jensen writes...

Something that I recently realized and which quite puzzles me. There is a very sharp "overall appearance" difference between the Scottish gargoyles of the sort that produced the Wyvern clan, and the English gargoyles that we met in "M.I.A." The former look like "conventional gargoyles" with leathery batlike wings; the latter look like heraldic animals with feathered wings. This very radical difference in physical appearance is astonishing, given that these two varieties of gargoyles live so close to each other, on the same island, in fact. Indeed, the difference in physiognomy between Scottish and English gargoyles is much greater than that between Scottish and Guatemalan or Japanese gargoyles, which is all the more incredible given that Guatemala and Japan are much further away from Scotland than England is.

So how did the English gargoyles, living right next door to Scotland, develop such a dramatically different physical appearance from their Scottish kin?

Greg responds...

Uh... Odd migration patterns.

I'll figure out the details some day. (It feels like one of those things that'll come to me eventually, as further proof that I'm tapping into the Garg Universe.)

Response recorded on March 19, 2000

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Michael Norton writes...

Why didn't the gargoyles on New Olympus reveal themselves to
Goliath and Angela? The rare discovery of other clans was my favorite part of the series so I would have loved to see them.

Greg responds...

Good question. And I'm honestly not sure I have a good answer, other than the truth that there wasn't time in the episode to cover THAT too.

Eventually, I'd have had to come up with an answer. Were they present at Elisa's trial? Do they live "in town"? Is they're leader unprepared to make contact with three gargoyles who are making a LOUD point to defend a human being? I haven't decided yet. But now you've got me thinking.

Response recorded on March 17, 2000

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Zeliard writes...

If it's not to late, the 14 clans contest.

1.Manhattan
2.Avalon
3.London
4.Guatemala
5.Ishimura
6.New Olympus

7.Tibet
8.Bali
9.India
10.Paris
11.Loch Ness
12.Valley of Kings in Egypt
13.Wyvern
14.Ireland

Greg responds...

nine points

tyca

Response recorded on March 17, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

What's the general feeling among the Avalon Gargoyles concerning Oberon and his children's coming to the island? I'd expect there'd be quite a bit of resentment, especially given Magus' death at the hands of the Sisters...

Greg responds...

I think that there's much uneasyness both ways. But I also think the Children like having a few mortals around. And the clan may simply be glad that they have both a roll (i.e. honor guard, i.e. protection) and the support of Oberon.

I tried, in that little scene in GATHERING PART ONE between Oberon and Katharine to indicate that a pleasant detante had been reached.

Response recorded on March 11, 2000

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Greg "Xanatos" Bishansky writes...

1.Arthur
2.Merlin
3.Lady of the Lake
4.Perceval
5.Garlon (the invisible knight from Le'Morte de Arthur)
6.Morgana
7.Blanchfleur
8.Nimue

Greg responds...

Seven.

tyca

Response recorded on March 11, 2000

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Triston Pethybridge writes...

Are there any plans to add clans not corvered in the first four seasons?

Greg responds...

Four seasons?

And, yes. Check the "Clans" archive below.

Response recorded on March 09, 2000

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Todd Jensen writes...

Una and Griff, as we know, look very much like a unicorn and a griffon. In your opinion, are there actual unicorns and griffons out there in the Gargoyles Universe, or were the legends about them founded on sightings of London gargoyles of that sort?

Greg responds...

Probably the latter, unless some fae were goofin' on folk.

Response recorded on March 09, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

With everyone trying to guess at the survivors (ofcourse I hope I have already discovered them :-) let me now try to guess at the clan again...
1.London
2.Ishimura
3.Guatemala
4.New Olympus
5.Greece (yay! :-)
6.Xanadu, China
7.Paris
8.Avalon
9.Manhattan
10.Clones
11.Loch Ness
12.Camelot
13.Easter Island
14.Bermuda Triangle

Not much hope I'll be close... but hopefully we'll get an extra clue... :-)

Greg responds...

10 points. Or rather nine full points and two half points.

(I really give too many clues to these things.)

Response recorded on March 09, 2000

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Lawrence Stone writes...

How large would the clan be by 2158?

Greg responds...

Which clan?

Response recorded on February 24, 2000

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Michael Norton writes...

How are the two Gargoyles and the vegetation from Guatemala faring on Avalon?

Greg responds...

I imagine the vegetation is fairing well. But Jade and Turquesa are no longer on Avalon. They were needed back on Guatemala, so I think they left Avalon A.S.A.P. Of course, we all know that Avalon sends you where you need to be. So I'm sure they had a few adventures of their own. But I imagine their back in Guatemala by now.

Response recorded on February 20, 2000

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Joshua writes...

Ok, Clan Contest

1. Manhattan
2. Ishimura
3. Guatemala
4. Avalon
5. New Olympian
6. London
7. The Clones (I'm guessing they count)
8. The Bermudian triangle clan ! =)
9. Loch Ness clan
10. China
11. A station revolving around the earth
12. the moon
13. mars
14. Underneath the ocean

Greg responds...

8

Response recorded on February 20, 2000

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B5 Mark writes...

Ok, here's my guess for the clans contest:
This post has 2 lists, one with my reasons, and one straight list in case my reasons are too close to story ideas.

Known Clans:
1. London, England
2. Ishimura, Japan
3. Guatemala
4. New Olympus
5. New York
6. Avalon
7. The clones

8. Tibet (It's full of rocks and secretive monks)
9. The Congo (Where Mokele-Mbembe supposedly lives)
10. The North Pole (you said you had a story to tell about Santa Clause)

2 new clans by 2159:
11. Scotland (it has close connections to the N.Y. and Avalon clans)
12. California (why not)

2 new clans by 2259:
13. Underwater (75% of Earth's surface: yeah it's vague, but it's all I could think of)
14. BABYLON 5!!! (Our last, best hope... for Gargoyle-kind) <G>

London, England
Ishimura, Japan
Guatemala
New Olympus
New York
Avalon
The clones

Tibet
The Congo
The North Pole

2 new clans by 2159:
Scotland
California

2 new clans by 2259:
Underwater
BABYLON 5!!!

Greg responds...

What good is publishing these two lists on the same post. If one got kicked, they'd both get kicked. We can't kick half-a-post.

Anyway...

6.5

Response recorded on February 20, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

A guess at the clans...

1.Guatemala
2.London
3.Ishimura
4.New Olympus
5.Paris
6.Transylvania
7.Xanadu, China
8.Avalon
9.Manhattan.
10.Clones
11.Greece
12.Camelot
13.Easter Island
14.South Pole

Greg responds...

9.5 points, which doesn't mean you got nine completely right and one half right.

Response recorded on February 20, 2000

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Michael Norton writes...

My guess at the 14 clans.

1) Manhattan
2) Manhattan (Clones)
3) Ishimura
4) Guatemala
5) London
6) Avalon (from Wyvern)
7) Avalon (from Guatemala)
8) Moscow
9) Rome
10) Paris
11) Athens
12) New Olympus
13) Los Angeles
14) Jerusalem

Greg responds...

7 and 3/4 points.

Thank you; come again.

Response recorded on February 17, 2000

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lisa writes...

HI GREG!

My guess's for the 14 clans

1.london
2.ishimura
3.guatemala
4.montreal, canada
5.venice, italy
6.outer space
7.illuminati clan {having something to do with the illuminati}
8.avalon
9.manhatten
10.moray, scotland
12.paris. france
13.loch ness, scotland
14.cairo, egypt

Greg responds...

seven points

try again...

Response recorded on February 17, 2000

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Aris Katsaris writes...

Is Boudicca the only gargoyle beast of the Avalon clan? And does the fact that gargoyle beasts seem even rarer than normal gargoyles mean that their species is in an even worse danger of extinction?

Greg responds...

No, she's not. But the beast species is, generally, in even greater danger of extinction than gargoyles.

Response recorded on February 10, 2000

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Todd Jensen writes...

How did the Avalon gargoyles learn how to glide? After all, their human foster-parents were obviously in no position to teach them themselves how to do it.

Greg responds...

Trial and error.

Response recorded on February 09, 2000


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