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I rewatched "The Edge" today - appropriately, since today (October 30) is, according to some sources, Dostoyevsky's birthday, and Goliath was reading his work in the episode.
I spotted more "hunted like animals" remarks (I'm keeping close watch for those in the 25th anniversary review) from Xanatos during his conversation with Goliath at the castle. (I don't recall any of that imagery in "Deadly Force". I think that Macbeth addressed Goliath as "beastie" in "Enter Macbeth", but I'm not certain - if he did, I must have temporarily forgotten my resolve to keep track of that element.)
I also couldn't help thinking, this time around, how convenient for the series it was that Elisa only got a partner *after* the gargoyles moved out of the castle and into the clock tower.
Yeah. It was too convenient, which is why we gave her Matt.
A few things I've been wondering
1)Is Matt considered part of the Manhattan Clan or just a friend?
2)We know Broadway loves old detective movies but what film genres do you think the other members of the clan enjoy most?
3)Do any of the other Gargoyle clans enjoy aspects of human culture like music, books, comics, film or television?
1. An ally.
2. Brooklyn likes swashbucklers. Lex likes SciFi. Hudson likes Celebrity Hockey. Bronx likes anything that's muted.
3. Yes.
In "Revelations," Martin Hacker told Matt "Your job was to get him (Goliath) there (to the Hotel Cabal). It's not your fault if old Mace couldn't hold him." In fact, since Matt gave Goliath the key and physically stopped Mace from shooting Goliath, it was indeed Matt's fault that old Mace couldn't hold him.
Was Martin unaware of Matt's involvement in Goliath's breakout, or was he deliberately lying to Matt?
For now, that's up to your interpretation. Matt assumes that no one but Goliath knows about Matt's complicity. Is he right?
NO SPOILERS.
Is Matt resentful or embarrassed of having been forced out of the FBI and into police work?
At different times, he's either or both or neither.
Was Matt Bluestone's departure from the FBI a forced resignation or was he just fired?
And while on the subject of Bluestone, do you know what years he joined and left the FBI and what year he joined the NYPD?
1. Probably a forced resignation. But in essence, he was fired.
2. Matt joined the FBI in 1987. And left in 1992. By 1994, he was with the NYPD.
Hey Greg
I am a big fan of the Gargoyle cartoon (haven´t read the comics though, just read about some of the things that happens in them online, but I really don´t know much about them, beside the whole time-dancer plot)and I admirer your imagination for creating them.
I got some question about the trio
1. How many gargoyles were hatched in their rookery, and did some leave the clan before the masqare?
2.How close were they to their other rookery siblings?
3.How bad was the masqare effect them and how much do they miss the ones who are dead
4. How much do they miss Scotland and the 10. century (I know it´s clear that they´ve adjusted well to Manhattan and the 20. century, but still)
5. How close were they to anyone outside of their own rookery
6.How close are they to the mutants and Matt Bluestone.
1a. Don't remember the exact number off the top of my head. And I don't have my Gargoyles notebooks here at my WB office.
1b. Yes.
2. Close to some.
3. I'll let you use your imagination for this one.
4. Sometimes more than others.
5. Close to some.
6. Mutates? It's a mix. As for Matt, Broadway's probably closest to him. But they all get along.
Matt's apartment in "The Silver Falcon" and in "Kingdom": Are they the same place?
I'm only asking since a bomb went off and damaged the apartment on Oct. 27, 1995. ("The Silver Falcon")
Then, a little over two months later, Broadway visited Matt and the apartment seemed to look fine on Jan. 4, 1996. ("Kingdom")
It's the same building, different apartment.
Did Matt ever tell Elisa that he was a member of the Illuminate? I ask because in the episode Revelations Matt says that it didnât pay to keep Elisa in the dark about things (speaking about the incident with the Dracons in The Silver Falcon). After going on and on about how they should trust each other in the episode Revelations, it would seem contradictory of what Matt had just been through to not tell Elisa. But then, maybe he has his reasons to keep it a secret. Care to shed some light on the subject?
Thank you for your time and all that you do,
-Charisma82
I do not care to shed light on the subject.
Is the Director of the Redemption Squad aware of Matt Bluestone's long quest to expose the Illuminati? If so, does he know that Matt has already penitrated their ranks?
No comment.
Gargoyles and Politics
I know that you generally like to keep politics out of this site, which is why I hope that this question isn't too out-of-line. All the same, I'm very interested in the role that politics plays in the "Gargoyles" universe.
What, generally, are Elisa's political views? Does she belong to a particular political party? And does she discuss politics with the Manhattan Clan at all?
For that matter, how politically literate are the various members of the Manhattan Clan, particularly Goliath and Lexington? Do they read any political texts? For that matter, does Hudson ever catch "60 Minutes" or any similar shows on television? How much do Elisa's political views (assuming that she shares them with the Clan at all) color their political viewpoints?
I'd also be greatly interested in any information you would be willing to share regarding the politics of other human characters in the series, most particularly Xanatos, Fox, Matt, Renard, and especially Macbeth. For that matter, what does Demona think of human politics (I expect that I can guess the answer to this one, but still)? :)
If you can't tell, this is coming from a prospective Politics major who to some degree or another views all things through a political lens. If you wish to leave these things up to the viewer then I would completely understand, but any information at all would be tremendously appreciated.
Thank you very much for your time, and I eagerly await the widespread release of the two remaining Trade Paperbacks. I've been trying to spread word of them (and of the DVDs) in the Comments section of Gargoyles-related YouTube videos; every little bit helps, I hope.
Based purely on stereotypes of ethnicity and labor and location, I'd guess Elisa's a democrat.
I don't think politics is something that would attract Lex's attention much. I would think that Hudson, who prefers Celebrity Hockey to 60 Minutes, would feel lost rather quickly in political discussions. Goliath is all about the classics. I don't think Elisa's proselytizing much.
Xanatos seems like a likely Republican. At least fiscally. (Don't really see him or Fox as social conservatives.) Matt must be a Dem. Renard is probably a Republican. Macbeth... I don't think he's an American citizen. Demona... come on.
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