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Todd Jensen writes...

One thing that puzzled me in the "Guidelines for Villains" document that you posted just now. When it gave a list of the kind of "silly Batman villains" to avoid, it included Mr. Freeze on the list, alongside the Penguin and the Riddler. Now, the latter two, I can see as "silly", from what I know of them - but Mr. Freeze as portrayed in "Batman:TAS" (which is, admittedly, the only interpretation of the character that I'm familiar with) didn't strike me as silly at all. He seemed more like an effectively tragic figure, a man trapped forever in eternal cold, shut out from warmth and aware of his plight, and wanting vengeance upon the hypocritical businessman who had put him in this condition - with the additional element of his grief over his forever being parted from his wife Nora. I'm at a loss as to how such a figure can be considered "silly" - and can only assume that you must have had a different interpretation of Mr. Freeze in some other "Batman" medium. (Since, as I said, I don't know how he was portrayed outside of "Batman:TAS", it's quite possible).

Greg responds...

I go way back with Batman. And Mr. Freeze, was , by the way a creation -- i'm pretty sure -- of the Adam West Batman series. The cold was a gimmick. There wasn't any tragic element there. I think that Tim Burton actually did a fairly good job, in an otherwise lousy movie, of making the Penguin resonate as a villain for Batman. And I think that Alan Burnett and crew did a damn good job at creating Pathos (if not resonnance) for Freeze in B:TAS. But I'm guessing that at the time I had that conversation with Fred, I hadn't seen that episode yet. And still, I'm bigger on resonnance with the hero, than the villain's own tragedy anyway. Both are important, but I like to start with the resonnance. (Am I spelling resonnance right? Man, am I tired.)

Response recorded on September 25, 2000