[SPOILER] It occurred to me that there's another echo of "Vendettas" in this one besides the pie guns: Darkwing and Launchpad's discussion of what St. Canard's "Big Apple-esque" nickname might be. "Vendettas" was the episode of "Gargoyles" which brought up that nickname of New York's (with Hudson puzzling over it). [/SPOILER]
Todd Jensen
posted @ Sat, Feb 7, 2026 6:54:57 pm EST from 68.99.93.213

[SPOILER] Matthew recently made reference to the fact that both Darkwing Duck and Gargoyles have a history of pie guns: Darkwing in the episode "Just Us Justice Ducks," and Gargoyles of course in "Vendettas." There was also a pie gun in a Darkwing comic story in 'Disney Adventures' (which, for those who are interested, was recently republished by Fantagraphics in 'The Disney Afternoon Adventures' Vol. 4). It's interesting to me that the Disney TV Animation folks of the '90s were (and still are) so into pie guns, when it doesn't seem to be a particularly prominent trope elsewhere. Obviously, the "pie in the face" gag has a long history dating back to silent films and even before (according to Wikipedia, the very first instance of the gag was in the London music hall scene in 1904, and it was an instant hit...both Charlie Chaplin and Stan Laurel were part of that show). But the specific idea of shooting a pie out of a gun surprisingly doesn't seem to come up much. It SEEMS like a classic Looney Tunes-style gag, but I've racked my brain to think of instances in classic animation, and couldn't come up with any. Indeed, the first Google result for "pie gun" is for Darkwing Duck. There was a Garbage Pail Kids episode with pie guns that predated the 1990s Disney shows. Can anyone think of other examples?
[/SPOILER]
Craig
posted @ Sat, Feb 7, 2026 3:05:24 pm EST from 69.118.30.106

My hardcovers of the Marvel and SLG comics arrived yesterday. I am very impressed! I thought they would be a typical trade paperback size (which was going to be a massive upgrade from the old digest size), but they are actually a fair bit bigger! Glancing through the pages is a little surreal. Like going from famine to feast with some of those later issues that we never saw even normal size. Anyway, they look great and, while they were a long time coming, they were worth the wait. Glad to have them on my shelf!
Matt
"My daughter?! How dare you mock me! I have no daughter." - Demona, 1996
posted @ Sat, Feb 7, 2026 1:25:46 pm EST from 69.229.197.48

Managed to pick up my comics on Wednesday, but it's been a busy week since. Also noticed a few copies of the last crossover and the Winter Special on the shelves as well.

Anyways, a few random thoughts:

[SPOILER]
Fedora Matthew pointed out the interactions between humans and anthropomorphic animals reminded him of Quack Pack, but I was immediately reminded of Bonkers . . . though I doubt Darkwing would consider himself a 'Toon'. Might need to revisit both shows before next week d:

As for the Latin to English, transfigam as 'I will pierce' works for the future conjugation of transfigere, "to pierce".

Demona confirming that Morgana is rejecting her invitation for mischief reminds me of "The Mirror" when she is described as 'Dracula's Daughter' -- of course, Demona won't be stopped at the threshold, lol.

Gotta love the cartoony-hammer space physics of where those pie cannons were stashed. Also love how they are latticed. XD

hehe, the bank robbing mooks sucked gas before Darkwing could even say that line.

A nitpick, but it's one close to home since my folks are in this line of work: 'translate' is when written language is needed to go from language to the next; when spoken the more accurate verb is 'interpret'.

I should have paid more attention to the speech bubble for "The Big Rutabaga!" being said off-panel.

I do wonder if Demona was feeling 'Mirror-lag' during Puck's escapades.

I will be curious if future issues -- if they continue to take place in Manhattan -- will feature any recognizable landmarks besides the Clock Tower.

After all they've seen together, I love Goliath asking Elisa if a 'duck-billed rocket jet' is an unusual sight or not. Good to get your bearings, Big Guy. :--)

One of our street thugs is referred to as 'Kurly' again, something I haven't considered since "A Little Crazy" -- I think I originally chalked it up as a Three Stooges reference. But now, in a non-canon crossover, I'm wondering if "A Little Crazy" gave us more than expected.

I also find it hilarious that the one time the Street Thugs have any moment of success, however brief, it is against Darkwing Duck. I feel like he needs a talk from the Lady of the Lake of all people, to be reminded that this is a "far larger stage".

Elisa's pose when Darkwing quacks for Morgana's return is definitely a visual callback from "Awakening: Part Three".

"By the Broad, Bold Boulders of Gibirdal--!" I first figured something akin to Gibraltar as well. Love how one of his eyes changes color seeing Goliath petrify.

Probably more of coincidence, but the way Demona hints at her pending transformation also reminded me of Madeline Khan from Blazing Saddles. Also, unlike her usual dawn-and-dusk-distortions (alliteration is addictive, I'll have you know), this time she glows with energy while doing so.
[/SPOILER]

Until next issue (and hopefully next week, at that)!
Phoenician
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posted @ Sat, Feb 7, 2026 9:22:11 am EST from 24.117.64.34

CRAIG - [SPOILER] The "Gib" opening (combined with the "broad shoulders" part) made me wonder if this was the "duckverse" counterpart to the Rock of Gibraltar, though the mention of "shoulders" also suggests that Gibirdal is a being rather than a landmark. [/SPOILER]
Todd Jensen
posted @ Sat, Feb 7, 2026 7:32:40 am EST from 68.99.93.213

Todd > [SPOILER] The "Gibirdal" reference has me stumped as well. I don't THINK it's from a TV episode, or not that I remember, anyway. I assume it's an avian pun on something from mythology or comic books, but I'm drawing a blank. [/SPOILER]
Craig
posted @ Sat, Feb 7, 2026 12:53:38 am EST from 69.118.30.106

A question to [SPOILER] those who remember "Darkwing Duck" better than I do - who or what is the "Gibirdal" whom Darkwing mentions in his astonishment at Goliath turning to stone? (Assuming that Gibirdal appeared in the series and wasn't invented specially for this issue.) [/SPOILER]
Todd Jensen
posted @ Fri, Feb 6, 2026 7:15:31 pm EST from 68.99.93.213

I wonder what the odds are of issue 2 actually releasing next week. I'm extremely skeptical, but Midtown Comics seems to believe it will come out. We've had back-to-back Gargoyles releases a few times (most recently with Demona #5 and the Winter Special), but never the same series releasing two weeks in a row.
Craig
posted @ Thu, Feb 5, 2026 9:45:40 pm EST from 69.118.30.106

MATT - [SPOILER] The mirror's similarity to that of Titania and Oberon's Mirrors feels appropriate, since this one's also named after a Shakespearean character (two, technically). [/SPOILER]
Todd Jensen
posted @ Thu, Feb 5, 2026 7:25:33 pm EST from 68.99.93.213

[SPOILER] Oh, no one has yet mentioned that the title was again left off the story, as with Demona #5. Grrr. Gargwiki has it as "Dark-Duck Reflections." I initially assumed the title was the very cumbersome "The Official Darkwing Duck & Gargoyles Disney Afternoon Team-Up Crossover Comic Book Mini-Series Event." [/SPOILER]
Craig
posted @ Thu, Feb 5, 2026 2:08:37 pm EST from 69.118.30.106

Non-spoiler comment: I definitely want to second Matt praising Ciro Cangialosi's art. He's done many Darkwing covers for Dynamite as well as drawing the Negaduck series, and I see that he's also drawn for IDW's 2017 DuckTales comic as well as various overseas Donald Duck comics. So he's a seasoned Disney Duck guy and it definitely shows, but he also does a great job with the gargoyles characters we see, especially [SPOILER] Demona in both her forms [/SPOILER].
Craig
posted @ Thu, Feb 5, 2026 1:01:42 pm EST from 69.118.30.106

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posted @ Thu, Feb 5, 2026 11:40:42 am EST from 205.123.251.62

Gargoyles/Darkwing Duck> I have not had a chance to read everyone's thoughts yet, but I did read it the moment it dropped digitally. A few things that stood out to me:

[SPOILER] - First, I gotta say that the art of this crossover is very very good. Among my favorite of all the Gargoyles artists that we've seen over the years for sure. Both the Gargoyles characters and Darkwing characters look perfectly on model and yet still blend with each other seamlessly. I hope we get to see a lot more of Ciro Cangialosi. Well done.

- I like that interactions between Morgana and Demona. Lot of fun there and I'm looking forward to more.

- The mirror looks a lot like Titania/Oberon's Mirror, but apparently it is not. I had figured it was being used to bridge universes, but apparently, it is just a simple transport device. I find it very strange that St. Canard and NYC exist in the same universe. And that the human/gargoyle world and duck world are one and the same, but I'm not going to let it bother me much. This is all for fun, afterall.

- Darkwing vs. our street thugs is great. Apparently, we get a non-canon name for one of them at last: Kurly!

- And our heroes compare notes and gear up for the next step while Demona moves forward with her plan. It is only slightly bizarre to see these character interact. [/SPOILER]

So, there are my very quick thoughts. Looking forward to the next issue (possibly in less than a week!)
Matt
"My daughter?! How dare you mock me! I have no daughter." - Demona, 1996
posted @ Thu, Feb 5, 2026 11:35:18 am EST from 204.184.178.1

Matthew > [SPOILER] True! Although he did initially refer to Comet Guy as a "hideous alien monstrosity," again making it seem unlikely that a neighboring human-populated city exists in his world. But, again, elastic Darkwing continuity is definitely a thing, and this is all just for fun anyway.

It's worth noting that Carl Barks actually wanted to draw humans into his Donald Duck comic stories, and did for several years, but his editor eventually reined him in and forced him to switch back to the "dognose" characters (who basically are just humans with weird noses and ears that don't even really look like dogs).

Plus, "Twitching Channels" already kind of covered the 'Howard the Duck' beats with Darkwing, so there was no real sense repeating that. [/SPOILER]
Craig
posted @ Thu, Feb 5, 2026 12:41:40 am EST from 69.118.30.106

Craig> [SPOILER] He's sort of dealt with humans before. There was Comet Guy and his whole planet. [/SPOILER]
Matthew the Fedora Guy
You're Gonna Carry That Weight
posted @ Thu, Feb 5, 2026 12:22:44 am EST from 184.23.35.150

Matthew > [SPOILER] Ha, yeah, funnily, I was actually more weirded-out by DW not being horrified by humans, as opposed to the vice-versa.
[/SPOILER]
Craig
posted @ Wed, Feb 4, 2026 10:37:29 pm EST from 69.118.30.106

Craig> As a famous Muppet rat once put it, "Eh, it's New York."
Matthew the Fedora Guy
You're Gonna Carry That Weight
posted @ Wed, Feb 4, 2026 10:24:41 pm EST from 184.23.35.150

Matthew the Fedora Guy > [SPOILER] Actually, the Quackronomicon was in the TV episode "My Valentine Ghoul." I have a bit of trivia about that, but I'm going to save it for a future issue since it's potentially spoiler-ish.

Oh, and technically, Morgana was a villain for one-AND-A-HALF episodes (see "Ghoul of My Dreams"). [/SPOILER]

Todd > [SPOILER] I too was amused/intrigued/perplexed by what appears to be a tribute to F. Murray Abraham in two of the thugs' names.

And like both you and Matthew, I was a bit surprised how blase everyone is about anthropomorphic ducks and humans co-existing; especially since DW once referred to humans as "hideous beakless mutants" when he crossed into our world in the episode "Twitching Channels." But then again, Tad Stones has always been anti-continuity, and the later episode "A Star Is Scorned" directly contradicted "Twitching Channels."
[/SPOILER]
Craig
posted @ Wed, Feb 4, 2026 8:12:33 pm EST from 69.118.30.106

And one little piece of convenient timing about [SPOILER] Murray, Abraham, and Norman's pie guns (including Darkwing preferring banana cream over chocolate for pie flavor) - the very next episode of "Gargoyles" to be covered on "Voices From the Eyrie" is "Vendettas". A review of this issue will be the perfect match for the "deep-dive" of that episode.

And, although I'd already brought it up a couple of weeks ago when discussing the preview pages, I still get a kick out of the name for the magic mirror. [/SPOILER]
Todd Jensen
posted @ Wed, Feb 4, 2026 8:07:57 pm EST from 68.99.93.213

You know with the influx of the bots and the number of delays, I completely forgot a new comic dropped today. So without further ado, here's some thoughts on the latest crossover.

[SPOILER] So right away it's established that both Gargoyles Manhattan and DW St. Canard occupy the same universe, much like the crossover with the Fantastic Four there's no justification given, they just act like it's always been this way. It does lead to some odd though funny moments where humans briefly question the presence of an anthropomorphic duck, but then it's quickly brushed off. I guess this story setting is Quack Pack-like.

Anyway, we get a new magical incantation here and best I can translate it reads as, “With strong will and great need...Thrust through the veil of Dromio’s mirror.” If anyone's Latin is better, feel free to correct. Interestingly enough, the word used for mirror "speculum" is also used in identifying male ducks from females. Apropos for this story, eh? And we get another Shakespeare reference too.

Much like the other crossover it's a villain kickstarting the plot. In this case, Demona kidnapping Morgana. Is she aware Morgana was only doing the villainy thing for one episode? Anyway, said sinister snatching sets St. Canard's stalwart sentinel straight to the City that Never Sleeps...as soon as Eek and Squeak clue him in...and Gosalyn translates for him. I really like the part at the beginning where DW is battling a trio of bank robbers and is thoroughly disappointed that it's just some guys with pie cannons. Mmm, someone should probably tell Dr. Bellum that her pie technology has hit the streets, could be a leak inside of S.H.U.S.H.

The hijinks that ensue really capture the feel of the old cartoon, so full credit to Tad and Greg for their work in plotting. It got to the point that I was busting out my Jim Cummings impression for Darkwing's dialogue just for the full effect. Actually, knowing Jim's history of improv and how the show would just let him do his jokes if they were funnier than the script, I wonder if the two of them approached the writing with a "What Would Jim Do?" mindset. There was certainly a lot more quips on the Gargoyles-side of things, made the tone closer to something like "Vendettas."

So I was partially right and DW was ready to do a "two heroes get into a fight over some misunderstanding" though in this case the reasons weren't selfish and Goliath and Eliza figured things out pretty quickly. But we end on an interesting cliffhanger, the reason for Demona's plot in the first place, she wants the Quackronomicon. I'll have to do a bit of research but I'm pretty sure that was an element from the (sadly) short-lived Darkwing Duck comic which feature F.O.W.L. trying to summon Duckthulu. If that ends up being the case, gargoyles could get it's first encounter with cosmic horror.

Oh, one last thing. I noticed Greg referenced Young Justice again, this time with the "Big Rutabaga" bit. [/SPOILER]

That's all for now. But I'm definitely looking forward to the next issue. Thanks Greg and Tad for the laughs.
Matthew the Fedora Guy
You're Gonna Carry That Weight
posted @ Wed, Feb 4, 2026 7:35:10 pm EST from 184.23.35.150

On the first issue of the "Gargoyles"/"Darkwing Duck" crossover:

[SPOILER] I was a bit surprised that they portrayed Manhattan and St. Canard as in the same world, given that one's inhabited by humans and the other by anthopomorphic ducks and other animals - apparently they're going the same route as the crossover with the Fantastic Four. (Demona's means of grabbing hold of Morgana - transporting her through a magic mirror - had led me to at least half-expect them to be in separate worlds brought into magical contact - though that would have raised the question of how Darkwing, minus access to magic, could travel to Manhattan.) Of course, this is a "just-for-fun" apocrypha crossover, so taking that approach probably made sense.

And, yes, as I'd expected, Darkwing does get into that "confrontation based on a misunderstanding" with Goliath - at least, until the "match called on account of sunrise".

Got a chuckle out of two of the new set of bank robbers in St. Canard bearing the names of "Murray" and "Abraham" (I'm wondering where "Norman" fits into that) - and they're also using pie guns, if with a different flavor (and Darkwing even mentions prefering banana cream). And then the three street thugs are shown as their counterparts in Manhattan.

And, naturally, Brendan and Margot are astonished bystanders as Darkwing motorcycles into town (though at least they don't get into quite as much danger as the last time they were present in a crossover).

Looking forward to #2 (which, I hope, won't run into the same series of delays). [/SPOILER]
Todd Jensen
posted @ Wed, Feb 4, 2026 7:18:23 pm EST from 68.99.93.213

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posted @ Tue, Feb 3, 2026 11:35:42 pm EST from 219.249.150.113

I'm not quite certain that I'm following you. You seem to be suggesting at first that the series should have not given the gargoyles other than Goliath names, but later on, seem to be suggesting instead that it should have done so, but under different circumstances than the way the actual "Awakening" multi-parter did it. Or have I misinterpreted your post?
Todd Jensen
posted @ Tue, Feb 3, 2026 9:41:31 pm EST from 68.99.93.213

Hello, just wanted to ask a question: I once read somewhere that Greg once considered not giving the other Gargoyles of the Manhattan Clan names sans Goliath to really emphasize the difference between Human and Gargoyle but since even something has to be called something thus Hudson, Brooklyn, Broadway, Lexington, and Bronx all eventually receiving their names.

If true, a part of me still believes that concept could have still been possible. Although I do like the way Hudson named himself so banally after he asked what the Hudson River was called and the Trio probably encountered each of their namesakes when they were exploring Manhattan for the first time, I like this idea I have of, through short time skips/as she shows Goliath around Manhattan through multiple nights, Elisa responding to a call and finding each Gargoyle in their eventual namesakes (sans Bronx who gets named by an attempt of the Gargoyles)

Might be asking a too much for the "Awakening" Quint-Opener - especially how it sounds like it's a messy splice of each of member of the Manhattan Clan getting their own spotlight episode mixed in with Awakening, but I dunno, I think of small changes and ideas like that sometimes when I find factoids of cut concepts like that and then seeing how if it can still be applied in contrast to the final product.
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posted @ Tue, Feb 3, 2026 2:56:22 am EST from 136.158.8.218

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And I hope everyone had a good Groundhog Day, and hopefully one that wasn't on repeat.
Matthew the Fedora Guy
You're Gonna Carry That Weight
posted @ Mon, Feb 2, 2026 10:53:32 pm EST from 184.23.35.150

Third!
Phil
posted @ Mon, Feb 2, 2026 11:23:24 am EST from 50.192.123.171

First.

And happy Groundhog Day, everyone!
Matt
"My daughter?! How dare you mock me! I have no daughter." - Demona, 1996
posted @ Mon, Feb 2, 2026 8:56:30 am EST from 204.184.178.1

First.

And happy Groundhog Day, everyone!
Todd Jensen
posted @ Mon, Feb 2, 2026 7:58:38 am EST from 68.99.93.213