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Anonymous writes...
Mr. Weisman,
Just so that I can understand this correctly, the Justice League and the Team will never know that Ocean-Master had been killed by Lady Shiva and they probably think he still out there somewhere after getting out of prison in Atlantis (in which I assume that he had escaped in secret without anyone noticing)?
Greg responds...
They know he escaped prison. (The cell is empty. I'm sure they've noticed.) But they don't know Shiva killed him.
Anonymous writes...
Mr. Weisman,
In the Young Justice Wiki, Gretchen Goode's designation in The Light was confirmed to be L-11. But you've recently said in a response posting that this is now Ultra-Humanite's designation in The Light. Is this actually true, or is Ultra-Humanite's designation is supposed to be L-12 and Zviad Baazovi's designation is supposed to be L-13? The next question I want to ask is why The Brain is no longer a member of The Light? Finally, my last question is why was Black Manta expelled from the Light?
Greg responds...
1. The first thing to keep in mind is that the L-Designations for the Light aren't really in-Universe. We needed something to identify members of the Light in the credits during Season One before we revealed their identities. The fans latched onto them, understandably, but I haven't quite tracked them in the same way that I've tracked the heroes' designations. Then there was that goody bag created for SDCC, which seemed to enshrine the L-Designations and/or etch them in stone. But I'm not even certain they were correct on that bag. (I have it in storage somewhere, but I can't get to it this minute.) So let's try to work 'em all out now:
L-1 Vandal Savage
L-2 Ra's al Ghul
L-3 Lex Luthor
L-4 Queen Bee
L-5 Ocean-Master
L-6 The Brain
L-7 Klarion
L-8 Black Manta (replacing Ocean-Master)
L-9-11 Deathstroke (replacing Ra's al Ghul)
L-9-11 Ultra-Humanite (replacing The Brain
L-9-11 Gretchen Goode (replacing Black Manta))
L-12 Zviad Baazovi (replacing Gretchen Goode)
The obvious problem is that Deathstroke, Ultra-Humanite and Gretchen all joined at approximately the same time. And since there's no in-universe L-Designation, any of the three could be L-9, L-10 or L-11 - though Zviad is clearly L-12. I gather from the YJ Wiki that the San Diego bag assigned Deathstroke as L-9 and Gretchen as L-11, but that Ultra-Humanite's L-11 came from a somewhat half-hearted answer here at ASK GREG. So let's, for the hell of it, correct that answer, and make Ultra-Humanite L-10. Cool? So, now...
L-1 Vandal Savage
L-2 Ra's al Ghul
L-3 Lex Luthor
L-4 Queen Bee
L-5 Ocean-Master
L-6 The Brain
L-7 Klarion
L-8 Black Manta (replacing Ocean-Master)
L-9 Deathstroke (replacing Ra's al Ghul)
L-10 Ultra-Humanite (replacing The Brain
L-11 Gretchen Goode (replacing Black Manta))
L-12 Zviad Baazovi (replacing Gretchen Goode)
2. As with Ocean-Master's "unfortunate incarceration," the Brain being in prison (especially a prison like Belle Reve) makes it difficult to serve effectively.
3. Ditto.
Matt Itelson writes...
When did Leslie Wills become Livewire?
When did Andie become Mist?
When did Lia Briggs become Looker?
When did Tula become Aquagirl?
When did Cassandra Sandsmark become Wonder Girl?
Greg responds...
1. Team Year Seven or Eight.
2. Team Year Seven or Eight.
3. Team Year Nine, when she joined the Outsiders.
4. Team Year One, when she joined the Team.
5. Team Year Five.
Michael Broder writes...
When did Artemis and Wally get Brucely?
How did Lucas Carr become associated with the Team?
Why is Scarab incompatible with boom tubes and Apokoliptan tech?
How did Jim learn he was a clone?
What did Superboy mean when he said he could "relate" to Appellaxian husk wanting to "end its pain?"
How is Icon familiar with intergalactic law?
Greg responds...
1. Team Year Four
2. Lucas was already associated with the League. If you're asking me to tell the story of how he specifically became involved with members of the Team in their super-hero capacity, that's not what ASK GREG is for. No spoilers.
3. Reach tech and Apokoliptan tech aren't compatible. Like American hairdryers and European electrical outlets.
4. Again, I'm not going to tell a story here.
5. Beyond the obvious that none of ever ask to be born, I'll leave that to your interpretation.
6. He's an alien and a lawyer. Do the math.
Marvelman writes...
I could've sworn I had asked this question before, but I can't find it in the archives, sooo....
Lian originally made-up the name "Auntie Mouse", her nickname for Artemis, because as an infant she couldn't pronounce Artemis correctly, right? Was that your idea?
Greg responds...
Yes and no. "Mouse" was also Lian's mother's nickname for Artemis. (As in, Jade was the cat, and Artemis was the mouse.) So I'm sure Lian heard her mother - before Jade left - refer to Artemis as Mouse on occasion. This sunk in and in her mind, the name "Artemis" became Auntie Mouse.
All things are true.
Anonymous writes...
Does the Term Princes All the first episode of season 3 happen to be some kind of literary reference because I always found this phrasing a little unusual, so does this term have some deeper significance or was it just an arbitrary choice.
Greg responds...
It is a literary reference I suppose. It certainly wasn't arbitrary. But the phrase, "They were Princes all." is fairly common.
Liam writes...
1: Were mammoth and shimmer recruited to the kobra cult because they were twins? Or was that just a out of universe decision on your part due to kobra connection to twins?
2: How does Shimmer feel about mammoth transformation?
3: How long were they members of the cult?
3b: Did they leave the cult over his transformation or did they remain members?
4: How long has the current incarnation of suicide squad been operating?
4b: Is it the first incarnation of tast force x?
5: Was rick flag jr's father a member of the original task force x/suicide squad?
Greg responds...
1. I might say neither. Or both. But the question seems to be taking something for granted from the comics, and thus the premise of the question is problematic, as we don't promise that in YJ.
2. She seems fine with it.
3. They joined in 2009.
3b. They didn't leave over his transformation, but they did leave.
4. No spoilers.
4b. No spoilers.
5. No spoilers.
So that's seven questions. The fact that you're using the 3 and 3b trick doesn't actually fool me. Let's keep it to five questions per post max, please, as per the rules. Your Mammoth & Shimmer questions and your Suicide Squad questions should have been on two separate posts. We've been loose with the rules recently. But given the length of the queue, if this keeps up, I'm going to instruct our moderator to enforce them more religiously.
Anonymous writes...
When were Ra's and Sensei deposed by Deathstroke and Lady Shiva?
Greg responds...
They weren't deposed. Ra's decided to take a different approach. He resigned from the Light and decided to place the League of Shadows under the Light's purview. The Light chose Deathstroke and Shiva to run things.
Anonymous writes...
With Superman and Lois Lane's marriage, that means Superboy is Lois' brother-in-law and Jonathan's uncle, correct? And that also means Jonathan and Martha Kent are Lois' father-in-law and mother-in-law too, correct?
Greg responds...
Yeah. Was any of that in question? Jonny even refers to Superboy as Uncle Conner.
Anonymous writes...
1. If Roy asks Ollie to get rid of his goatee, will Ollie do it?
2. Do the members of Arrow family like the chili Ollie make?
3. Are Dinah and Babara good friends?
4. What was Green Arrow doing in Season 3, he let Arrowette work with the Bat Team but what was he doing in the season?
5. In the very first episode, why would Green Arrow tell Red Arrow (still speedy at that time) the Hall of Justice isn't the real base instead the watchtower is?
Greg responds...
1. The question feels moot to me because why would Roy do that?
2. Um... sure.
3. I would think so.
4. He was also working with Batman's group. And doing his own thing. And successfully reconciling with Dinah.
5. Information is power. The rest I'll leave to your interpretation.
Anonymous writes...
In "Rescue Op" Barbara's computer finds a match for something which she considers "intriguing". What was it?
Greg responds...
You're testing my memory. Hold on...
Okay, I'm back. It was the info about Jaqqar Marlo's manner of death. I thought that was fairly obvious from the episode.
walkie writes...
Hi, wanted to say that I'm a big fan of YJ!
My questions mostly relate to season 3 continuity stuff, specifically the whole Batman reading Slade's micro expressions thing, and more specifically Atremis's knowledge of it.
She said that "we" have known since before they found her, implying that Nightwing/Batman told her what batman had seen. Does that mean that she was aware of the whole anti-light thing too, and if so was she made aware specifically because of that reason? (since she didn't know that Nightwing was talking to Oracle in the first episode, I assume she wasn't aware of it at that time, and since she's never named among the conspirators). Also, if she didn't know, did she just get told that Tara is a mole because Batman saw Slade's micro expressions so without asking why Batman was involved with Tara in the first place? And where was she during the episode where Jefferson basically blew the lid on the whole plot? I assume that if she wasn't already fully aware of the whole plot, she was made so before the full reveal to the rest of the team and league at the end of the season?
Sorry for the long paragraph, I just have been unsure on the depth and duration of Artemis' knowledge of the whole anti-light thing for a while.
Greg responds...
1. No. Artemis didn't know about the Anti-Light. But it's not surprising for her to hear that Batman told Nightwing something useful.
2. No one thought Batman went out of business. The fact that he was on Santa Prisca, investigating the League of Shadows' new base fit with the cover story that he had quit the League.
3. She clearly knew by the time of the big meeting in the Watchtower, where Nightwing officially spilled the beans. Almost everyone knew by then. I'm not sure exactly when she found out, but it was sometime between when Jeff figured it out at the Premiere Building and when Nightwing made it official at the Watchtower.
Anonymous writes...
1) When did Fire become a superheroine on Earth-16?
2) When did Magog become a superhero on Earth-16?
3) When did Steel become a superhero on Earth-16?
4) When did Wildcat become a superhero on Earth-16?
5) When did Dinah Drake become a superheroine on Earth-16?
Greg responds...
1. Beatriz da Costa debuted as a heroine during Team Year Six.
2. Team year Six.
3. Team Year Six.
4. 1942.
5. 1964.
Steve Hockensmith writes...
Why is Barbara going by "Oracle" now?
When Will asks Dick who he's here to recruit this time, who did Dick recruit the other time and for what?
When did John Henry Irons become Steel?
When Jaculi murdered the king and queen was there a control chip on him?
When was Gabrielle Doue hired at the palace?
Greg responds...
1. She has a different role, and the name suited her.
2. No spoilers.
3. Team Year Six.
4. Nope.
5. Team Year Seven.
Paul writes...
Is Looker Scottish or Irish? It sounds as though she has a Celtic accent, but I can't place which one it is (sorry)!
Greg responds...
Scottish.
Marvelman writes...
In Outsiders, was it your intention for Khary's voicing of Amistad to be comedic?
Greg responds...
Yes, in that moment. Anyway, it made me laugh.
Paul writes...
1. In the latest episode, "Artemis Through the Looking Glass", it appears as though El Dorado has the designation D-07. Since he was never a member of the Team, did he ever have a B-designation?
2. Since Cyborg was never a member of the Team, did he ever have a B-designation?
3. Regarding the D-designations (for the Outsiders), were these created/implemented immediately after that squad was formed (December of Team Year Eight)? Or was it a while before they came up with the idea to have their own group of designations with their own assigned letter?
Greg responds...
1. He did briefly. He also had an A designation for a while before that.
2. He did briefly.
3. Not instantly. D-designations went into service on February 25th of Team Year Nine.
Anonymous writes...
So In Overwhelmed when Robin and Kid Flash are using the word "Ject"(They use this after using ejected,subjected,rejected) would it mean the same as the Latin word ject meaning throw or is there some other Wordplay I am missing.
Greg responds...
I think the connotation is 'nailed'! Or gotcha!
Michael Broder writes...
I've got some questions about "Triptych."
What did Shade do to Stagg?
What is the "meta-human fail safe" really for?
What "significant incentive" did Cheshire receive to release Shade?
Did Dr. Stone ever figure out the Reach device?
Greg responds...
1. It seems obvious to me, but I prefer to leave it to your imagination, as the episode did.
2. No spoilers.
3. Nothing. Just because one character says something doesn't mean she's right.
4. It blew up. That made it more difficult to analyze.
Jason R Carter writes...
Where was the real Orion while M'comm was impersonating him?
Greg responds...
Off-world.
Fisher writes...
Is Eduardo Dorado Jr. out to his father? If so, what team year did he come out?
Greg responds...
1. Yes.
2. I haven't thought about that, honestly.
Curious Canadian writes...
When episodes from seasons 3 and 4 air on television in Canada (or other non-streaming locations around the world), do you get to decide when commercial breaks are inserted or is that decision made by the broadcaster?
(PSA: I hope all my fellow Canadian Young Justice fans are remembering to support Season 4 on Teletoon every Sunday!)
Greg responds...
I hope so, too.
We have suggested Act Breaks in our scripts, but I doubt anyone is looking at those. I'm not even sure how they could.
We made a decision to present the best possible version of the show for first-run streaming in the U.S., knowing that down the road, things like commercial breaks and/or the series being edited for content and/or for time to fit in a specific time slot (with commercials) could happen.
Family writes...
How long has Iris been hosting the get-togethers of heroes and their kids?
Does Lobo live on Rimbor?
Has he fought the League before?
Did he attend the six Leaguers' trial?
How did Queen Bee know that he failed to kill Forager?
Greg responds...
1. I don't know. A while now. It began after the twins were born, more informally.
2. He's more of a nomad.
3. Members of the League.
4. No.
5. The Light has observers.
Steve Hockensmith writes...
I've got some questions about membership.
Are Lia Briggs and Livewire on the Outsiders?
When did Robin and Windfall join the Outsiders?
Is Mist on the Team?
Greg responds...
1. Looker and Livewire are indeed members of the Outsiders.
2. Robin and Windfall joined the Outsiders in Team Year Nine. Though months apart.
3. Yes.
Anonymous writes...
1. How old is Hart?
2. How old is Hauser?
3. How old is Jeremiah?
4. How old is John Smith?
5. How old is Karen?
Greg responds...
1. Hart was born in 1985.
2. Hauser was born in 1974.
3. Jeremiah was born in 1990.
4. I'm not sure how to answer this one. Red Tornado was first built in 1948. The android John Smith body was first constructed - as you saw - in Team Year Zero. If you're asking how old John appears to be, I suppose the answer is subject to interpretation, but I'd say about 35.
5. Which Karen? Karen Beecher and Karen Conlin were both born in 1995. Karen, the genomorph-troll was born in 2009.
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