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Dear Greg Weisman
When I watched Gargoyles, I couldn't help noticing that you employ a lot of non-white characters in important positions in the series. For Example, in Dracon's mafia like gang, you put a black man (Glasses) as the "brains" behind the criminal organization. You have black men masquerading as ninjas in the episode (Bushido), which is extremely odd since many Japanese do not think highly of people with African Ancestory. And you put a mixed race women as the leading female character (Elisa) instead of a white blond women. In reality Mr. Weisman, a black man is far more likely to be a convicted murderer then the possibility of a black man being a medical doctor. In the epidode Bushido, you created a gargoyle clan which co-exists in harmony with Japanese people, why didn't you place the village in somewhere in Europe where you have Gargoyles peacefully coexisting with "White People". I am confused because when you use a lot of non-white characters, you send a message that white people and European cultures are bad, while non-white people and non-white cultures are good, even though in reality the opposite is true. Also a final comment, I also notice that you are Jewish, I did read somewhere that Jews are high prevailent among those who control the media, and many Jewish writers try to protray non-white characters as noble. inteligent etc, when in reality, such protrays are not realistice. You have to ackknowlege that American Blacks have an IQ of 85 compared to a white IQ of 100, Blacks commit over half of the crimes in the USA, even though you protray many criminals in Gargoyles as being white and evil.
You sound like a virulent and ignorant racist and biggot.
Hey! For a long time now I've wanted to write and tell you how much I loved the 2nd season of WITCH. That show is great! I started watching it when I heard that you were working on the show. I figured if you could make Gargoyles great, WITCH had to be near its equal. The first season was good. It was interesting enough for me to want to continue watching it. I'm glad I did because you all did an awesome job on the 2nd season.
It's been a while since I've seen the show (I've seen them all), but I have to say that I loved how you put the characters Marco and Brenda (referring to Margot and Brendan) in the episode where Cornelia's sister gets her powers. I'm sure all Gargoyle fans appreciated that one. I also liked how some of the bad guys in the middle of the season (I forget their names) looked like gargoyles. I am referring to their wings and tails. One was an ice guy and the other was a fire girl (I remember the girl reminded me of Hyena).
And you can't forget Matt turning into Shagon. That was pleasantly unexpected. What was better was when he went good again and regained his power. Matt's got to be my favorite character. He really has a better story to him this time around. He wasn't a big character in the first season and I'm glad he grew to a regular character seen in the 2nd season. Plus, I really like the guy who plays his voice. He does a lot of character voices and it is easy to point out his voice because it sounds different than others. He is very talented.
I also liked the fact that you gave Will some power in this season. I used to make fun of her in the first season because all she could do was fly around and create portals (and that power didn't come until the end of the 1st season). I also like that the other guardians have new powers too, though I still like their original powers the best. I also love the fact that you find out that each guardian was chosen for a reason. For example, Hay Lin was chosen because of her connection to her grandma being in the guardian generation before them. Also, Cornelia was chosen to help protect the heart of earth, which is her sister. I have no idea why the other three were chosen, and I can't wait to find out.
Well, here's hoping you continue with WITCH and that the next season is just as good if not better than the last one. You've done a wonderful job with this show just as you did with Gargoyles. Keep it going!
Thank you for your time.
Ember (the "fire girl") probably reminded you of Hyena because Cree Summer voiced both roles. Tridart (the "ice guy") was voiced by Jim Cummings, the voice of Dingo. Matt/Shagon was played by the amazing Jason Marsden.
I am surprised that more Garg fans didn't notice Brenda and Marco -- one of the things that made me think that most garg fans weren't watching the show. Heck, there's a character in WITCH called Gargoyle. I'm surprised that didn't get any comments.
I'm afraid I won't be doing a season three though. The show wasn't picked up.
Rather surprising that no post alerting readers that issue two came out... though by the time this is read it may be a post alerting of issue 10 that I'll be looking for:)
I am trying not to review comics on how they read at 2:30Am when I should be long asleep. This time I decided to reread 1 & 2 while fully awake and quite of few of my negative comments melted away. Still, there remained both pluses and minuses.
The most obvious change is the art. It seems to me that the two conflicting styles seen in issue 1 were melded together. Oddly enough the result is something far more reminiscent of the cartoon. Truth be told the art stood out more in issue 1- but so did the off model parts. This was miles away more consistent throughout the issue. There were some images that I took issue with: I don't like the new design for baby Alex, and Elisa looked rather Asian in some frames (more a problem with Dt. Yin over in The Batman) But there were some fantastic moments to more than balance. The facial expressions of Lex when baby Alex was reaching in the frame and playing with his face, or when Xanatos sheepishly admits that he knows it is not wise to annoy the Illuminati were fantastic. Broadway and Angela's scene was just lovely. And, of course, the full page of Goliath and Elisa when they first hit the ground. (also a nice frame when he is first hit by the hammer and she ducks.)
For some reason I just loved it when Elisa threw away her remaining shoe.
Some of the fighting was a little dark and muddled to my (sleep deprived) eyes. When Elisa stands above the mercenaries who had just talked about kissing their salary goodbye, I knew I was seeing a moment like Demona's, way back in Awakenings, when she appears saying, "no, you lost it all.", but I didn't feel it in my gut. (I reserve the right to feel it in my gut when I reread issue 2 with issue 3 and hopefully that night do so before midnight.) There was one very clever composition, where the hammer light swoosh and sound effects swooped through 4 levels of frames on one page. Problem was, some of the sound effects seemed a little too even. The helicopter sounds were correctly all the same, but organic sounds looked that way too. (I checked and didn't see that in #1). Of course I did get to see a downright heroic Vinny and got NOT to see Castaway escaping through the guts of the building.
Oh- and speaking of animation gaffs in the original airing…did Goliath end the issue gliding off on his injured wing?!
thanks and looking forward to #3!
In the comic, Goliath is LEAPING on page 24, not gliding. His wings aren't even extended.
I'm told issue #3 will be out on March 28th, 2007.
Why does Lexington have to be gay? I am a girl and I'm insulted by this. I was always told being gay is a sin. As a fan I don't believe he's gay at all.
You are free to believe what you want, but in my personal opinion, whomever told you that being gay is a sin was at best misinformed, at worst evil. And I don't see how you could possibly be "insulted" by this revelation in any case. How does it effect you at all?
So, I tried searching for some info on this supposed gargoyles movie, but the site's archive search engine seems to be a bit haywire (my returned searches have off-color spaces in-between every character). I read the first few returns to my query, but I started to get a headache. As a result, I have decided to simply ask my question and hope it makes it through the queue reasonably soon. If it has already been asked (as it very well may have) I sincerely apologize.
My first question is, if this movie ever gets put together, will it be animated or live-action? As a follow-up, if it is live-action, will Disney prevent it from being overly violent and adult-oriented? I think that the bulk of gargoyles fans out there are getting old, and as much as the old episodes and the new comics still make me happy to engage with, I think a more mature, live-action/CGI/Costumed high-budget motion picture would generate a lot of hype, over and above another animated version. I'm not thinking of Goliath ripping muggers in half or anything, just a version where no one is afraid of showing a little pool of blood (a la "deadly force"). I think "Awakening" could be remade fantastically in this manner, as it is an incredibly epic storyline. Thanks for your time.
There are no current plans to make a movie, so answering any questions about it at this point would be beyond hypothetical.
I wanted to take the opportunity now that the second season of W.I.T.C.H. is finished to give my thanks and comments about the season. I've got to say that this season, in my opinion, was vastly better than the first. While I enjoyed it the first season, I eventually started watching it just out of obligation, namely to see how long before Elyon got her act together. Not so with this season. I looked forward to each episode. The writing and characterizations for the second season seems so much more focused and consistent, and the plot more forward. I especially loved the Will-Shagon/Matt dynamic of the first half or so. (The "I'm so bad, I hate myself" quote stands out). And the last six were the most fun for me, especially "U for Undivided". I still smile when I think of Ed Asner as cute little Napoleon's voice. There are so many things in each episode, I can't possibly list them all.
Hopefully, by the time you get to this we'll know if season three is greenlit. But, just to let you and the rest of the W.I.T.C.H. staff know, thanks so much for such a fun season.
Thank you. It is much appreciated. I was extremely proud of the work we did on WITCH in Season Two. Wasn't sure that anyone was watching.
My Review of issue #2
Excellent story-telling. I liked the pace that the drama went through. I ordered my comic through SLG's website and got it before Christmas.
The artwork. Granted that I'm not an artist and that I have no sense of color aesthetics, I have some issues with the artwork. The opening scenes with Macbeth remind me of looking at myself in the mirror when I'm half-awake. Lex doesn't quite look right in the scenes with Alex.
I am looking forward to buying the next issue when it is released.
I'm glad. I like the artwork. It's not perfect of course. And it printed considerably darker than Will colored it, but hopefully we've addressed this problem with Dustin and Steph in the future.
And I liked the Lex/Alex scenes. I thought they were fun.
I've got to say, Puck is one of my favorite characters (which is funny, because most of my favorite characters aren't the favorites of other people). Maybe it's because he reminds me of my cat, but it's probebly because he has something I've never been very good at getting: a decent sense of humor. Oberon on the other hand..... It took me a while to warm up to him. I like him now though. Because I'm a person who has been taught humility since the age of seven, I think he's waaaaaay too proud. My mom thinks he's a bit of a baby, but she's amused by it. Maybe as a phycologist, she sees something I don't. The following observations and questions are about the two afore mentioned members of the Third Race. I guess they count as one topic....
I was suprised by Oberon's harsh punishment for Puck in 'The Gathering' (expecialy since HE was the one at fault), but I guess his banishment from Avalon could have been a 'So There' kind of thing. In my mom's oppinion (She's a fan too, by the way) Oberon was like 'Oh, it's BORING, is it? I guess you won't mind never coming back then....' and Puck was like 'Well, actually, I was just sort of..... whining.' Later, I thought I hit the moral of the story and told my mom (who was surprised I hadn't gotten it earlier). Our conversation went something like this:
Me: Mom! I think I got the moral of the story!
Me: Your pride doesn't just hurt you; it hurts the people around you!
Mom: ..... Duh.
Yeah... now for some real questions.
1. You said Oberon probebly still cares for Puck. What about Puck still caring for Oberon? After a punishment like that, (which I figure was done more for Oberon's pride than anything else) I might be a little bitter.
2. If this wasn't fair, why didn't Titania say something? Is she still upset about the donkey thing? I can't say I blame her, but we're talking about a way extream punishment here!
3. Will this state of tension be adressed in future stories?
1. Bitterness and feeling aren't mutually exclusive.
2. If you say so. Titania got her way, largely though.
This is more of an observation than a question.
In the episode Upgrade, Goliath had to choose a second in command. He stated that he didn't want to choose recklessly because it might put a rift between the trio. And he said that "I see now that nothing can come between you three." I guess he didn't count on the fact that Angela is alive and that she might someday fall in love with one of the trio and that might throw a rift between them.
I'm not sure Angela does throw a RIFT into things. They argue when she first shows up, and inevitably they are growing up and won't be joined at the hip anymore, but they'll always be the best of friends.
First off, I'd like to mention how much my family likes Gargoyles. I've probebly developed a slight obsession; my brother claims he doesn't like it, but I've caught him in a zombie-like trance staring at the TV when the dvd is in (complete with a gaping mouth); my mom likes watching it with me, and says it has better story lines than some of the shows she watches. My dad on the other hand.... at the time of typing, I haven't convinced him to watch it (I will though, just wait), but he's taking me to the 2007 Gathering. Our discusion went something like this:
Dad: So you want me to drive hours, in a car, to a place you've never even heard of, to spend a weekend at a convention about an old Disney cartoon?
Me: Yes.... please.
Yeah... I'll have real questions in further posts.
Good to know.
And I'm looking forward to seeing you at the Gathering, though you may be hard to recognize (Cuz you're anonymous... get it?)